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northernhoops wrote:

Camden wrote:

northernhoops wrote:A core of Rubio Lavine Wiggins Dieng And Embiid sounds a lot errrr than Rubio Lavine Wiggins Waiters Bennett Dieng and Pek. Plus we have more cap space next year. Embiid > Pek
Young > Bennett
Richardson < Waiters
Do you like Waiters that much?

Embiid has the potential to be much better than Pekovic, but I'm not going to overlook the huge question marks regarding him and his injuries. Pek gets banged up, but you can usually pencil him in for 60 games of 20/10-ish basketball, and that's All-Star level production. I could certainly live with this part of the trade, though. It's the other parts that I'm not a fan of.

I'll take Waiters over Young, and I say that as a guy who really likes Young's game. Waiters is younger (22 to 26) and has the ability to attack off the dribble on a consistent basis. He's on an upward trend, in my opinion, scoring just over 19 PPG on 46% from the field (38% from three), 3.7 APG (2.1 TOs) and 1.0 SPG in 22 games after the All-Star break. I know a lot of people don't like Waiters as much as I do, but I see the guy's talent. I'd hold on to him if Flip gets him involved in the trade.

Keep in mind that I have also said on this board that I believe Philly would do a Bennett + Barea for Young trade. They're stockpiling assets right now. Young is essentially on a one year deal for them since he has a player option for 2015 and they were high on Bennett last summer (reports said they were planning to take Bennett/Oladipo/Noel with the pick they acquired from the Pelicans in the Holiday trade). Obviously, Bennett and Oladipo never made it to them, but I'd wager they're still interested in Bennett.

The Sixers come away with a perfect fit next to Noel in Pekovic, Waiters, Bennett and two 1st round picks for Embiid, Young and Richardson? No way, Jose. We'd be getting fleeced.

I'm not as big of a fan as Pek or Waiters as you are, so that's part of the disagreement, but this trade to me gives us a potential Big 4 in 3 to 4 years. Financially it's a hell of a lot better. Waiters is going to get paid 10 mil+ soon with the current market! Pek is already making 12, and Bennett's rookie contract is considerably big. JRich is gone in a year, Young could probably be had for around 10 and Embiid will be making around 5 a year for the next 4 years. Even If we can't get a big name free agent, we can take on bad contracts with assists to add to our core of Rubio LaVine Wiggins Embiid. This trade also leaves us in better condition for tanking, which to me makes the most sense for a quick rebuild

Camden wrote:Kiwi, that's what I've been hoping for. Wiggins, Waiters and Young would make me a very happy guy.

lipoli390 wrote:We are not going to get Wiggins. Waiters and Young. The only Cavs player the Sixers are interested in is Waiters. Therefore, to get Young in a three-team deal, Waiters will go to the Sixers.

CoolBreeze44 wrote:I'm trying to figure out what he would be useful for. Can't see him hitting the road and taking on the demands of a scouting position. He's not a sabermetrician. He's not going to negotiate contracts. He's not going to make decisions on draft night. And he's such a dick, players aren't going to be attracted to our market because of him. Just what role do you think he could be valuable in?

lipoli390 wrote:We are not going to get Wiggins. Waiters and Young. The only Cavs player the Sixers are interested in is Waiters. Therefore, to get Young in a three-team deal, Waiters will go to the Sixers.