OK Now what-a-we do???

[A Friendly Flatulence [enjin:8907904]]

I think by "big" trade Glen is planning to forgo is a Kevin Love trade, which is good news to hear. The way this team has played after essentially being eliminated from the playoffs gives me great hope for next season. We really should move Pek just because his contract is too big & we need help elsewhere on the roster

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

I don't see Dieng and Pek as a fit at all, and throwing Love on the floor with them doesn't help at all. The fact that we are throwing out some of these ideas should point to the real solution. Trade Pek!

Unfortunately it doesn't look that will be happening this off season according to Taylor -

https://twitter.com/Charley_Walters/status/454808739950780417

I don't take anything from that quote. Taylor looks like a dork, but he didn't get to be a billionaire by being stupid. Saying we're going to make a big trade might make the fans happy for awhile, but it would make our stars (including Pek) uncomfortable, because a big trade doesn't happen without giving up something big. Taylor's too smart to do that, I think.

[alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]]

how do we know that deing won't be as injury prone?

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

how do we know that deing won't be as injury prone?

We don't...there is always that uncertainty with everyone. But there isn't any evidence that he will be as injury prone as Pek, and he has an injury advantage over Pek in that he doesn't have to lug 300 pounds up and down the court.

But the real answer to your question is this. The reality of the NBA salary cap is that a team cant afford to spend 1/5 of its cap on a backup center as an insurance policy against the starting center getting hurt...not when your roster has other glaring needs.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Where are people getting the idea that Dieng can play some 4 next to Pek? I don't see it unless he's guarding a bigger 4 like Duncan and Pau (guys who are really 5's, but get spot minutes at the 4). He's not going to stretch the floor. He's not a great jumpshooter. I don't think he's ever played the 4 and he wasn't getting any minutes there when we were forced to play LRMAM minutes when DC was out earlier this year. I see it like the arguments people made that Bazz could play the 2. They both seem to have set positions. Dieng isn't an athlete like Ibaka that allows him to play both the 4 and 5 effectively. I just don't see it and we have to go up against guys like Ibaka, Griffin, Aldridge and Davis. Seems we would be taking his strength of defending the rim away with him having to guard those guys away from the basket and still leaving Pek to defend the rim which he can't.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

Where are people getting the idea that Dieng can play some 4 next to Pek? I don't see it unless he's guarding a bigger 4 like Duncan and Pau (guys who are really 5's, but get spot minutes at the 4). He's not going to stretch the floor. He's not a great jumpshooter. I don't think he's ever played the 4 and he wasn't getting any minutes there when we were forced to play LRMAM minutes when DC was out earlier this year. I see it like the arguments people made that Bazz could play the 2. They both seem to have set positions. Dieng isn't an athlete like Ibaka that allows him to play both the 4 and 5 effectively. I just don't see it and we have to go up against guys like Ibaka, Griffin, Aldridge and Davis. Seems we would be taking his strength of defending the rim away with him having to guard those guys away from the basket and still leaving Pek to defend the rim which he can't.

I gotta agree, khans. I have wondered out loud here if they could co-exist, but I think Adelman might be right about this one...I just can't see it.

[TheFuture]

What's the LEAST you would take for Pek?

3-way trade with Minnesota, Milwaukee, and Dallas

Min Receives: SG Mayo / PG Wolters / Stretch PF Middleton

Milwaukee Receives: C Pekovic / PG/SG Barea / SF Crowder / PG Larkin

Dallas Receives: C Larry Sanders / PG Shved

PG Rubio / Wolters / Zach Lavine*
SG Mayo / Martin (6th man) / Budinger / Zach Lavine*
SF Brewer / Muhammed / Hummel / LRMAM (situational defender)
PF Love / Middleton / LRMAM
C Dieng / Turiaf / Austin*

*Draft PJ. Hairston, or Zach Lavine at #13
Draft Isaiah Austin C from Baylor with our 1st 2nd

Draft two International stash picks with our other two 2nd rounders.

[Lipoli390]

I think we need to try hard to deal Pek, but I'd like to get a better return than we got for Al Jefferson. Why trade Pek? It's not just one reason -- i.e. Dieng's play. It is a list of factors that cumulatively support trying to deal Pek:

1. Pek's contract - amount and length will make it difficult to add the necessary talent and remain under the luxury tax threshold.

2. Pek is a poor fit next to Love defensively since both lack length or athleticism, leaving us without any rim protection in our front line. If we had an AK47 at SF, Love and Pek might be able to effectively co-exist defensively, but we don't have anyone like AK on our roster.

3. Pek can't stay healthy and on the court. Pek has a erGed 57 games per season in his 4 NBA seasons. He has missed around or. Ore each of his 4 seasons -- 25% or more of the team's games. He's on tap to miss nearly 30 games this season.

4. The development and potential of Dieng along with Turiaf's abilities as a backup C make Pek expendable.

I like Pek's game and acknowledge he is one of the best low-post scorers in the League. But even if you ignore his lack of vertical defense and poor fit next to Love, Pek's value to the Wolves is severely limited by his inability to stay healthy and on the court.

I wouldn't trade Pek just to trade him. But the Wolves have to try hard to deal him. The Wolves need to significantly improve their roster. That's unlikely to happen without trading Pek. Unfortunately, I suspect it would be difficult to find a team willing to give up much for such an expensive long-term contract for a player who can't stay on the court.

[TheFuture]

What's the LEAST you would take for Pek?

The LEAST you say??

Pekovic and Barea for Lebron James :thumb:

[TheFuture]

I think we need to try hard to deal Pek, but I'd like to get a better return than we got for Al Jefferson. Why trade Pek? It's not just one reason -- i.e. Dieng's play. It is a list of factors that cumulatively support trying to deal Pek:

1. Pek's contract - amount and length will make it difficult to add the necessary talent and remain under the luxury tax threshold.

2. Pek is a poor fit next to Love defensively since both lack length or athleticism, leaving us without any rim protection in our front line. If we had an AK47 at SF, Love and Pek might be able to effectively co-exist defensively, but we don't have anyone like AK on our roster.

3. Pek can't stay healthy and on the court. Pek has a erGed 57 games per season in his 4 NBA seasons. He has missed around or. Ore each of his 4 seasons -- 25% or more of the team's games. He's on tap to miss nearly 30 games this season.

4. The development and potential of Dieng along with Turiaf's abilities as a backup C make Pek expendable.

I like Pek's game and acknowledge he is one of the best low-post scorers in the League. But even if you ignore his lack of vertical defense and poor fit next to Love, Pek's value to the Wolves is severely limited by his inability to stay healthy and on the court.

I wouldn't trade Pek just to trade him. But the Wolves have to try hard to deal him. The Wolves need to significantly improve their roster. That's unlikely to happen without trading Pek. Unfortunately, I suspect it would be difficult to find a team willing to give up much for such an expensive long-term contract for a player who can't stay on the court.

With that being said, what is an offer that you believe could happen? Where does his value stand?