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I'll just say this: Derrick Williams is worth 3 LRMAM's. Said it at the time and will say it again, terrible trade.

LMAO.....

D-Will lovers unite!

I appreciate you guys' dedication to D-Will. Obviously I believe you guys are dead wrong, but it is hard not to admire your loyalty to the idea that this guy might be decent someday.

markkbu wrote:LMAO.....

D-Will lovers unite!

I appreciate you guys' dedication to D-Will. Obviously I believe you guys are dead wrong, but it is hard not to admire your loyalty to the idea that this guy might be decent someday.

We still have the second worst bench on efficiency difference. Trading DWill did nothing to improve us. That is a bad trade any way you spin it. Our bench stinks and we sold low on a potential asset. It is nothing more than basic economics, we traded Williams at the worst time and got worse for it.

thedoper wrote:

markkbu wrote:LMAO.....

D-Will lovers unite!

I appreciate you guys' dedication to D-Will. Obviously I believe you guys are dead wrong, but it is hard not to admire your loyalty to the idea that this guy might be decent someday.

We still have the second worst bench on efficiency difference. Trading DWill did nothing to improve us. That is a bad trade any way you spin it. Our bench stinks and we sold low on a potential asset. It is nothing more than basic economics, we traded Williams at the worst time and got worse for it.

What does efficiency difference mean?

markkbu wrote:

thedoper wrote:

markkbu wrote:LMAO.....

D-Will lovers unite!

I appreciate you guys' dedication to D-Will. Obviously I believe you guys are dead wrong, but it is hard not to admire your loyalty to the idea that this guy might be decent someday.

We still have the second worst bench on efficiency difference. Trading DWill did nothing to improve us. That is a bad trade any way you spin it. Our bench stinks and we sold low on a potential asset. It is nothing more than basic economics, we traded Williams at the worst time and got worse for it.

What does efficiency difference mean?

Our bench's offensive efficiency minus our opponents bench's offensive efficiency. Used on hoopstats to measure defensive efficiency. Basically measure how they compete against their opponents. In answer, we compete horribly. We did not improve from the Dwill trade, our bench is still horrible, and that is a problem.

sjm34 wrote:I never said he played great in the first game, and agree that +/- isn't a great indicator, but almost every one else who played significant minutes had a - on the team.

It's obvious that someone can't backup their position when they make outlandish statements like "One good game then 15 bad games". Do you really think he would be one of the first guys off their bench if that was true? Rick Adelman isn't their coach.

Although I'm on the fence about this trade (trash for trash, in my opinion), I'm not sure we want to hold Sac-town out as a franchise that is a model for good decision making. After all, they couldn't find any room for Fredette's 49.3 3-point percentage in favor of Thornton (32%), McLemore (31.2%) and Orlando Johnson (20%).

And after watching Shabazz Muhammad shut down Derrick Williams last night, I need to decide between two options. Either Shabazz has turned into Tony Allen on defense, or Derrick has turned into LMaM on offense.

markkbu wrote:LMAO.....

D-Will lovers unite!

I appreciate you guys' dedication to D-Will. Obviously I believe you guys are dead wrong, but it is hard not to admire your loyalty to the idea that this guy might be decent someday.

I am puzzled at your statement above considering you just stated that DW was playing decent off the bench a few posts before. You've been touting our improved bench for the last twenty games or so, and DW had what most would consider a poor game last night, but was still more efficient than everyone of our bench guys.

I think Doper is right in that most of you can't own up to your past comments.

sjm34 wrote:

markkbu wrote:LMAO.....

D-Will lovers unite!

I appreciate you guys' dedication to D-Will. Obviously I believe you guys are dead wrong, but it is hard not to admire your loyalty to the idea that this guy might be decent someday.

I am puzzled at your statement above considering you just stated that DW was playing decent off the bench a few posts before. You've been touting our improved bench for the last twenty games or so, and DW had what most would consider a poor game last night, but was still more efficient than everyone of our bench guys.

I think Doper is right in that most of you can't own up to your past comments.

SJM.....I agree....you seem confused alot

markkbu wrote:

sjm34 wrote:

markkbu wrote:LMAO.....

D-Will lovers unite!

I appreciate you guys' dedication to D-Will. Obviously I believe you guys are dead wrong, but it is hard not to admire your loyalty to the idea that this guy might be decent someday.

I am puzzled at your statement above considering you just stated that DW was playing decent off the bench a few posts before. You've been touting our improved bench for the last twenty games or so, and DW had what most would consider a poor game last night, but was still more efficient than everyone of our bench guys.

I think Doper is right in that most of you can't own up to your past comments.

SJM.....I agree....you seem confused alot

Couldn't come up with an answer I guess. Just keep deflecting! LOL