monsterpile wrote:Souhan and Yotter said on their latest podcast that part of Teddy's Bert grows was him being to worried about throwing an INT. That's an interesting angle but it makes sense. Teddy going down field was a lot about him not wanting to take chances. He simply didn't make quick decisions at times as well. Like it's been mentioned before Teddy was working with a poor oline maybe not sure god skill position players and one year where he had to work with AP who's style of offense did not mesh well. I think Shurmer has done a good job and nobody is pining for Norv to be back but people do forget some of the challenges he faced. Teddy faced some of those problems too. I love Teddy but I'm also realistic about him (like I was with Rubio) but there are some legit reasons which have been well laid out already to feel hopeful he can be more than he was before the injury...at some point.
That's what I felt about his deep ball. That he was being too cautious about throwing an INT so he was usually overthrowing it. The thing with the deep ball is I don't mind an INT on a jump ball as much, it's almost the same thing as punting as long as the defender gets tackled right away. The other thing is, you can get a long PI call too. With the overthrows you are not getting that call if it's uncatchable.
What I am wondering about is how well his knee healed up and how close to the original he is physically. Teddys mobility was fairly good pre-injury which was a big part of his ability to make plays when the rush got there.
monsterpile wrote:Souhan and Yotter said on their latest podcast that part of Teddy's Bert grows was him being to worried about throwing an INT. That's an interesting angle but it makes sense. Teddy going down field was a lot about him not wanting to take chances. He simply didn't make quick decisions at times as well. Like it's been mentioned before Teddy was working with a poor oline maybe not sure god skill position players and one year where he had to work with AP who's style of offense did not mesh well. I think Shurmer has done a good job and nobody is pining for Norv to be back but people do forget some of the challenges he faced. Teddy faced some of those problems too. I love Teddy but I'm also realistic about him (like I was with Rubio) but there are some legit reasons which have been well laid out already to feel hopeful he can be more than he was before the injury...at some point.
That's what I felt about his deep ball. That he was being too cautious about throwing an INT so he was usually overthrowing it. The thing with the deep ball is I don't mind an INT on a jump ball as much, it's almost the same thing as punting as long as the defender gets tackled right away. The other thing is, you can get a long PI call too. With the overthrows you are not getting that call if it's uncatchable.
What I am wondering about is how well his knee healed up and how close to the original he is physically. Teddys mobility was fairly good pre-injury which was a big part of his ability to make plays when the rush got there.
Good analysis espcially on the deep balls being like punts. Both Souhan and Yotter mentioned how much stronger in general Teddy looked. Souhan said he looked stronger the year he hurt his knee but he looks even stronger now also. That could have effect on his arm. Both guys said the real factor if he does have more arm strength is really whether he can put more zip on his shorter throws putting the ball in some tighter windows etc. Souhan said months ago that this injury COULD have some blessing in disguise because he heard they had him do some changes in his arm mechanics and of course he had plenty of time to work on that. It will be interesting to see what he looks like when he gets out there. I'm still terrified thinking about it because I don't want him to get hurt again and I also really want the kid to succeed.
It's interesting to read the comments about Teddy from his teammates after a few weeks of practice...lots of talk about how much bigger he looks, he confident he seems, and how much his arm strength has increased. What I am reading is that his teammates want Teddy to take back the starting QB job, and I think that needs to be the team's goal too. Case has been terrific, but his role should be as backup QB on a team that intends to challenge for a championship.
longstrangetrip wrote:It's interesting to read the comments about Teddy from his teammates after a few weeks of practice...lots of talk about how much bigger he looks, he confident he seems, and how much his arm strength has increased. What I am reading is that his teammates want Teddy to take back the starting QB job, and I think that needs to be the team's goal too. Case has been terrific, but his role should be as backup QB on a team that intends to challenge for a championship.
I agree with that but it also seems clear that teammates have a lot of respect for Keenum and have a lot of confidence in him. Keenum has done his job on the field and handled himself well through all this. He should feel good because if he doesn't fall apart he is gonna make some nice money next year even as a backup.
I will be curious if Bradford spends much time with the team moving forward. Will he be on the sidelines and travel with them? I think that will play a lot in his future here. He likely is looking for a backup job next year and this would seem like as good as any.
Thanks for posting that's a good read and good work by Coller who I am often not a fan of.
Completely biased article. Why didn't he compare his passing over 20 yds? Maybe because he only completed 11 of them for the whole season. That is less than 1 per game. Teddy doesn't throw deep because his arm strength and grip on the ball won't allow it.
Most QB's struggle with the speed of the game and defensive reads in their first couple of seasons. Teddy excelled at that, but it is also the reason he is unlikely to make any major strides moving forward. His deficiencies aren't something that can be fixed easily. I am not saying he can't improve, but most fans have a rose colored view of his past performances. Teddy was a game manager like Keenum.
