Best Potential Love Trades

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

"To get rid of Love, it would only take Olynyk, Thornton (expiring) and two first rounders for me."

... The fuck? :dizzy:

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

LST I am biased towards keeping Love but I think you have bought way too far into what the media has said. Love has never come out and said publically that he wants out. I'm sure he is planning to opt out it makes sense we all know that and that's why he has kept his silence and knows its very possible he gets traded if Flip gets a great offer. There has been rampit speculation here and all over the league about the Love situation but we just don't know where its really at. You may be right with everything you say and its so bad he can't come back but I just don't buy its that far. So much of what's being reported when it comes to Love is obviously incorrect. I'd rather give it a go with a guy that may be one of the top player in the game than trade him for what ends up being Junk. Its up to Flip and the coaching staff to make some magic happen.

Maybe I have bought too much into the media buzz, but I'm also evaluating the believability of the media guys that say he has to go. Locally, it's only Sid Hartman who thinks Love will and should stay, but Sid is 93 and never is in favor of anyone leaving. A couple weeks ago on a Sunday TV show, Sid made the statement that he hadn't sensed any animosity on the Wolves toward Love. Reusse and LaVelle rolled their eyes, but more tellingly, Mike Max, who is always deferential to Sid, openly disagreed. He said "Sid, I'm in the locker room with those guys everyday...you're not...and his teammates do not like him". That was enough for me to want him out of here.

You're correct that Love has not made a definitive statement that he is leaving. But he also hasn't said he is staying. In addition, his actions speak volumes.

1) His very un-private trip to Boston, which really put him in play
2) His interview the next day in which he referred to the Wolves as "they"
3) His dropping out of his commitment to play in the celebrity softball game this weekend
4) His complete silence this summer to the local media
5) His failure to reach out to UCLA alum Zach LaVine after draft night
6) The fact that LaVine and Robinson never mentioned him in their press conferences.
7) The fact (I believe) that he has not been photographed with one teammate since season end...Rubio said he hasn't talked with him, and he appears to have no Wolves' relationships
8) His comment that he was intrigued by the idea of playing with LBJ

I'm sure we could come up with more. But sometimes a guy doesn't have to use the words "I'm out of here" to
say "I'm out of here". And I think Kevin has said it loud and clear.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

"To get rid of Love, it would only take Olynyk, Thornton (expiring) and two first rounders for me."

... The fuck? :dizzy:

Have you seen a better offer? Boston is our most likely trading partner right now, and other than the picks, they don't have much that interests me. And we know Flip likes Olynyk. Those two picks are likely to be lottery picks.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

"To get rid of Love, it would only take Olynyk, Thornton (expiring) and two first rounders for me."

... The fuck? :dizzy:

Have you seen a better offer? Boston is our most likely trading partner right now, and other than the picks, they don't have much that interests me. And we know Flip likes Olynyk. Those two picks are likely to be lottery picks.

I'm sorry, man. I'm just not down with trading away a star player in the NBA for shit on top of shit. I'd rather keep him than deal him for Olynyk (who I like), Thornton (who I like) and two 1sts. That's just a historically bad trade.

[Monster]

Great comments LST here are some follow up thoughts.

LST all there has been is reports Love is interested in resigning if Lebron joins up there are no quotes although who cares. Who doesn't want to play with Lebron besides Kobe? Its a no-brainer. I have no interest in trading a possible top 10 player for basically scraps because he might make life terrible for the team this year. This team will be terrible in that case we might as well hope we can change his mind. Very few quotes have been coming from Love this offseason and yet Love also said he has a good relationship with Flip. The non-contact with teammates is a bit troubling but he might have reached out to them in a non-public way we don't know. With the situation the way it is that would be wise.

I think your idea that the league doesn't value Love is not because nobody wants to give up something good for Love its because Flip is rightly asking a high price. Teams aren't willing to give up multiple assets for Love at this point. Klay is a VERY good SG which is hard to get and the Wolves would need more. Cavs don't want to give up Wiggins and we are actually on the same page of the thinking of them not doing it. Love for draft picks before the draft or now? Nah that's not good enough for Flip.

Let's be honest we know Love is planning to opt out because well if he wasn't thinking of leaving because he hasn't won here well he wouldn't be opting out right? Nobody here blames Love for leaving so him opting out makes sense plus he can make more money getting a max contract. Love for the most part has gone dark except a couple appearances that he was likely obligated to do. Love likes to be in the media and being quiet is probably the right way to go. That's basically what Lebron did. Lebron did Miami wrong cause he shouted out when Napier got drafted right? What a jerk-hole poor Miami. Lol :)

Is Love not well liked by his teammates? Well maybe not but lots of guys in the league have supposedly not gotten along and won championships. Winning solves a lot of problems and maybe the right vet leader or coach might change or manage that (or make it worse lol). Melo has his issues but look at all the teams that wanted him badly and I'd rather have Love the next 4 years no doubt. Good teams don't just give up guys as good as Love they convince them to stay. The deck is stacked against us no doubt but If I amFlip I try as hard as I can unless I get a great offer which may come who knows what may happen.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

How about this: Replace Kevin Love's name with Blake Griffin in any reported trade offer and tell me how ridiculous it would sound. Then realize that Love is a superior player to Griffin. The only difference is how the media views them and the city they play for. Flip knows what Love's worth, obvious by him not giving Love away for scraps.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

"To get rid of Love, it would only take Olynyk, Thornton (expiring) and two first rounders for me."

... The fuck? :dizzy:

Have you seen a better offer? Boston is our most likely trading partner right now, and other than the picks, they don't have much that interests me. And we know Flip likes Olynyk. Those two picks are likely to be lottery picks.

I'm sorry, man. I'm just not down with trading away a star player in the NBA for shit on top of shit. I'd rather keep him than deal him for Olynyk (who I like), Thornton (who I like) and two 1sts. That's just a historically bad trade.

I hear you, cam...what I have coming back is much less than Love's value (disregarding his negative intangibles) and doesn't excite me like a Wiggins deal would. I'm just not very optimistic about any blow-out offers happening. Ainge seems to be the GM most interested in Love, and wants to find a creative way to get him. Problem is, they don't have much that I want. I'd rather roll with the SF's we have than add Jeff Green, and I think Olynyk started to show late last year that he is a better player than Sullinger. I may not like Thornton as much as you, but he does play a position of need (especially if Flip sees LaVine as a PG) and he's only under contract for one year. I don't see Ainge giving up Smart, and frankly I'm not sure he would fit well here. So, I have a hard time coming up with a better, realistic deal involving our most likely trading partner.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

"To get rid of Love, it would only take Olynyk, Thornton (expiring) and two first rounders for me."

... The fuck? :dizzy:

Have you seen a better offer? Boston is our most likely trading partner right now, and other than the picks, they don't have much that interests me. And we know Flip likes Olynyk. Those two picks are likely to be lottery picks.

I'm sorry, man. I'm just not down with trading away a star player in the NBA for shit on top of shit. I'd rather keep him than deal him for Olynyk (who I like), Thornton (who I like) and two 1sts. That's just a historically bad trade.

I hear you, cam...what I have coming back is much less than Love's value (disregarding his negative intangibles) and doesn't excite me like a Wiggins deal would. I'm just not very optimistic about any blow-out offers happening. Ainge seems to be the GM most interested in Love, and wants to find a creative way to get him. Problem is, they don't have much that I want. I'd rather roll with the SF's we have than add Jeff Green, and I think Olynyk started to show late last year that he is a better player than Sullinger. I may not like Thornton as much as you, but he does play a position of need (especially if Flip sees LaVine as a PG) and he's only under contract for one year. I don't see Ainge giving up Smart, and frankly I'm not sure he would fit well here. So, I have a hard time coming up with a better, realistic deal involving our most likely trading partner.

Exactly. If you even know that offer's shit, then you do NOT, should NOT accept it. Plain and simple.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Lebron signed for two years because of the new TV deal coming. Couldn't Flip talk Love into opting in so that his deal is up when the new TV rights are negotiated and his next max deal potentially lands him a couple more million a year? I think the worst thing Love could do is get locked into a max deal before the TV deal is struck. They're not going to retroactively apply the increase in salaries. If you can get him to opt in, that gives us one more year to do whatever we need to, be it trade him or prove to him we can win. That also gives Cleveland and GS a year to realize what they have isn't good enough to win and could put Wiggins and Klay back on the table. I also am not 100% sure Wiggins isn't on the table. I won't be until they sign him and it makes no sense they haven't signed him yet if he truly isn't going to be on the table.

[mrhockey89]

I'd just like to state that I am very happy with Flip so far on this Love situation. He has done a good job of holding his hole cards tight and not settling on the garbage that Cleveland/GSW/etc are trying to send our way in return for Love.

If they value Love so highly they will pay or they'll have a high likelihood of losing out on him in FA next year if he even is available, including having to compete with money (Wolves) and his home town team (Lakers).

And for me, if Cleveland balks at anteing up with Wiggins, I would absolutely love to see them renounce the rights to Bennett, Waiters, etc just to open up the cap space that would be needed in order to attempt to sign Love, only to fail on that and completely botch the era of LeBron in Cleveland again.