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Re: Around the League
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:25 pm
by crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]
Dipo went down with a really bad looking knee injury.
Sent to me today from someone I consider to be trustworthy as far as sources go:
"He (Oladipo) needs months to recover without ruining his knee cap forever ... slow stretching, gradual rebuilding. If he wants to (come back 100%) he'll sit out the rest of the season."
https://twitter.com/CoreyElliot/status/1070130280579678208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1070130280579678208&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.realgm.com%2Fboards%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D1794604%26start%3D60
Re: Around the League
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:23 pm
by Porckchop
Harden missing 15 3s and still scoring 61 pts. Sheesh
Re: Around the League
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:27 pm
by Monster
BizarroJerry wrote:Jimmy out again tonight with a wrist injury. Hope this lasts for a few more.
Philly helped us beating the spurs with Jimmy out. Corey Brewer that dude always lights it up (relatively speaking) the first few games with a team.
Re: Around the League
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:35 pm
by Monster
PorkChop wrote:Harden missing 15 3s and still scoring 61 pts. Sheesh
Still shot almost 45% which is not terrible plus 15 rebounds?!? Faried doing some stuff he makes a lot of sense playing with Harden and a bunch of scrubs just playing with energy.
Re: Around the League
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:46 pm
by Monster
DeAngelo Russell is averaging 19ppg on decent shooting percentages in just under 30mpg. Dinwiddie is a heck of a story. It would be nice to be one of these teams that developed some guards and other players to be good.
Re: Around the League
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:23 pm
by Porckchop
Looking at Brooklyn's roster and realizing they're above .500 is the real story in the NBA this year.
Re: Around the League
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:26 pm
by AbeVigodaLive
monsterpile wrote:PorkChop wrote:Harden missing 15 3s and still scoring 61 pts. Sheesh
Still shot almost 45% which is not terrible plus 15 rebounds?!? Faried doing some stuff he makes a lot of sense playing with Harden and a bunch of scrubs just playing with energy.
Another 25 free throws.
Rinse. Flop. Repeat.
Re: Around the League
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:49 pm
by Lipoli390
John Collins had 35 points with 8 rebounds and 2 steals tonight. He was 4 for 4 from behind the arc. LaVine had another nice game with 23 points, including 10 trips to the line, hitting 9 of those 10 free throws.
Teams do very little to develop players in my view - except perhaps to some extent by giving them ample playing time and putting them in a system that maximizes their strengths while minimizing their weaknesses. What matters most by far is who you draft, who you keep and who you trade. You draft Justin Patton instead of John Collins. You draft Dunn instead of Murray or Hield. You trade down in the draft instead of drafting McCollum and then draft Bazz instead of Giannis. You sell your late 1st round pick for cash rather than draft Rudy Gobert. You notice after a couple seasons that Wiggins has a poor handle that's not improving and a lack of intensity, yet you don't move him when he still has trade value. You do all those things and you're going to have problems. Getting lucky enough to have the top pick when KAT was in the draft and landing Okogie at #20 last June were good moves, but not enough to make up for the long list of major mistakes we've seen from the last two Wolves front office regimes.
The Wolves problem isn't a failure to develop players. The organization's problem has been a pattern of poor player personnel decisions - especially in the draft.
Re: Around the League
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:12 am
by crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]
Its on the players to get better, but its also on the coaches/organizations to put them in a position to succeed. Generational talents are going to be great, but good players can also become great under the right guidance.
John Collins? You think hed be playing well under thibs while getting dnps behind taj? probably not.
Lavine is now sporting his 3rd best net rtg of his career thus far, -.9.9. I guess hes the guy that got away for wolves fans.
Anyways, this is tucker auditioning for his next contract with the twolves.
https://streamable.com/ytoqg
Re: Around the League
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:28 am
by Monster
lipoli390 wrote:John Collins had 35 points with 8 rebounds and 2 steals tonight. He was 4 for 4 from behind the arc. LaVine had another nice game with 23 points, including 10 trips to the line, hitting 9 of those 10 free throws.
Teams do very little to develop players in my view - except perhaps to some extent by giving them ample playing time and putting them in a system that maximizes their strengths while minimizing their weaknesses. What matters most by far is who you draft, who you keep and who you trade. You draft Justin Patton instead of John Collins. You draft Dunn instead of Murray or Hield. You trade down in the draft instead of drafting McCollum and then draft Bazz instead of Giannis. You sell your late 1st round pick for cash rather than draft Rudy Gobert. You notice after a couple seasons that Wiggins has a poor handle that's not improving and a lack of intensity, yet you don't move him when he still has trade value. You do all those things and you're going to have problems. Getting lucky enough to have the top pick when KAT was in the draft and landing Okogie at #20 last June were good moves, but not enough to make up for the long list of major mistakes we've seen from the last two Wolves front office regimes.
The Wolves problem isn't a failure to develop players. The organization's problem has been a pattern of poor player personnel decisions - especially in the draft.
First of all yes you gotta pick the right guys. However...So all these players that go to the Nets that seemingly play their best basketball or return to playing good basketball again are because the nets are just picking the right players? What about all the teams Dinwiddie was on before? Joe Harris? Toronto paid to get rid of Demarre Carroll*. Spurs always pick the right guy it's not about development? Sure you have to pick the right players (we haven't done that either) but development and the organization does matter. It's some of both Lip and plenty of guys in this organization have gotten a chance to play.
* Toronto has done a hell of a job of building their roster but payin g to get rid of Carroll and then replacing him with C.J. Miles was not a good move. Carroll has statistically been a better player than Miles. Yes Carroll made a lot more money than Miles but...that series of moves including moving on from Corey Joseph to get Miles doesn't look great in hindsight. Thank goodness Thibs and Layden didn't give up a 1st round pick to get Miles. That may have been a disaster (assuming Miles was very meh for us) and meant no promising young player like Okogie.