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Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:14 pm
by Monster
Duke13 wrote:Thanks Monster. First time going. Going to Kaua'i, we might swing to Oahu for a day and see Pearl Harbor


I've never been there but I have family that goes there every year or 2 and one of my cousins lived there for a year a couple years ago.

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:16 pm
by AbeVigodaLive
monsterpile wrote:Lip's guy got hurt. Thats too bad fun he is a fun player to keep track of.

Per Shams:

"Sources: Atlanta rookie John Collins has been diagnosed with a sprained AC joint in left shoulder -- no tear -- and is expected to miss 2-to-3 weeks. He suffered injury Thursday night."



Atlanta already sucks. Now they're without Dedmon. Collins. And I think even Muscala is out.

Yuck.

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:39 pm
by KiwiMatt
monsterpile wrote:
Duke13 wrote:Thanks Monster. First time going. Going to Kaua'i, we might swing to Oahu for a day and see Pearl Harbor


I've never been there but I have family that goes there every year or 2 and one of my cousins lived there for a year a couple years ago.


I go over there most years to visit family in Maui. Highly recommend the township of Lahaina. Also Big Island is full of adventure if that's your cup of tea.

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:21 pm
by Duke13
KiwiMatt wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
Duke13 wrote:Thanks Monster. First time going. Going to Kaua'i, we might swing to Oahu for a day and see Pearl Harbor


I've never been there but I have family that goes there every year or 2 and one of my cousins lived there for a year a couple years ago.


I go over there most years to visit family in Maui. Highly recommend the township of Lahaina. Also Big Island is full of adventure if that's your cup of tea.



Great. Thanks for the tips

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:51 am
by Lipoli390
The Spurs won handily tonight, taking their record to 15-7. That's without Leonard or Parker so far this season and after losing last season's starting center, Dedmon, to free agency. The Jazz beat the Pelicans tonight, taking their record to 12-11 -- just 1 game behind the Wolves. That's without their best defensive player, Rudy Gobert, for the past 2+ weeks and after losing their allstar SF and best all-around player, Hayward, and their starting PG from last season.

The Spurs and Jazz exemplify excellence as organizations, making shrewd draft decisions and hiring really good head coaches. The Jazz took Rudy Gobert with a first round pick they got from the Wolves for fricking cash. They drafted Mitchell with the 13th pick last season. And they have a heck of a head coach. The Spurs just continue to amaze.

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:54 am
by thedoper
Davis carried off the floor. So sad.

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:49 am
by kekgeek
lipoli390 wrote:The Spurs won handily tonight, taking their record to 15-7. That's without Leonard or Parker so far this season and after losing last season's starting center, Dedmon, to free agency. The Jazz beat the Pelicans tonight, taking their record to 12-11 -- just 1 game behind the Wolves. That's without their best defensive player, Rudy Gobert, for the past 2+ weeks and after losing their allstar SF and best all-around player, Hayward, and their starting PG from last season.

The Spurs and Jazz exemplify excellence as organizations, making shrewd draft decisions and hiring really good head coaches. The Jazz took Rudy Gobert with a first round pick they got from the Wolves for fricking cash. They drafted Mitchell with the 13th pick last season. And they have a heck of a head coach. The Spurs just continue to amaze.


I think you are wrong on gobert, we could of drafted him instead of gorgui, then we traded that last first to OKC for roberson. You know super duper smart move for a bad team. Makes a lot of sense.

But your point is the same. That is why I do not want to trade away that 1st we have this year. Even though another wing would help a lot it is not moving us to a title contender this year (what is fine), for the wolves to continue having success year after year we need to draft and develop young cheap talent to play roles. Patton, Tyus, the OKC 1st so important to sustained success.

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:46 pm
by Lipoli390
kekgeek1 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:The Spurs won handily tonight, taking their record to 15-7. That's without Leonard or Parker so far this season and after losing last season's starting center, Dedmon, to free agency. The Jazz beat the Pelicans tonight, taking their record to 12-11 -- just 1 game behind the Wolves. That's without their best defensive player, Rudy Gobert, for the past 2+ weeks and after losing their allstar SF and best all-around player, Hayward, and their starting PG from last season.

The Spurs and Jazz exemplify excellence as organizations, making shrewd draft decisions and hiring really good head coaches. The Jazz took Rudy Gobert with a first round pick they got from the Wolves for fricking cash. They drafted Mitchell with the 13th pick last season. And they have a heck of a head coach. The Spurs just continue to amaze.


I think you are wrong on gobert, we could of drafted him instead of gorgui, then we traded that last first to OKC for roberson. You know super duper smart move for a bad team. Makes a lot of sense.

But your point is the same. That is why I do not want to trade away that 1st we have this year. Even though another wing would help a lot it is not moving us to a title contender this year (what is fine), for the wolves to continue having success year after year we need to draft and develop young cheap talent to play roles. Patton, Tyus, the OKC 1st so important to sustained success.


No, I'm right. We traded down to get an extra pick that we used to draft Gorgui. But we still had the 26th or 27th pick in the draft from an earlier trade and we sold it for cash. We could have drafted Gobert with that pick we sold. I remember how pissed I was at the time and posted how ridiculous it was to sell a first round pick for cash, especially with Rudy Gobert still available. Teams rarely sell first round picks for cash. Leave it to the Wolves organization to do the dumb things that other organizations don't do.

Otherwise, we're in violent agreement. :). Keeping and making effective use of first round picks is key to building and maintaining a competitive team in today's NBA -- especially for a smaller market team like the Wolves. I would have loved to get CJ Miles, but I'm glad we held onto the OKC pick we got in exchange for Rubio. We had better hope that OKC makes the playoffs so we actually get that pick.

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:48 pm
by Monster
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
monsterpile wrote:Lip's guy got hurt. Thats too bad fun he is a fun player to keep track of.

Per Shams:

"Sources: Atlanta rookie John Collins has been diagnosed with a sprained AC joint in left shoulder -- no tear -- and is expected to miss 2-to-3 weeks. He suffered injury Thursday night."



Atlanta already sucks. Now they're without Dedmon. Collins. And I think even Muscala is out.

Yuck.


Plumblee is back now to save the day!!! Yesssss!!! Jk

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:25 pm
by petecorcoran [enjin:6658618]
lipoli390 wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:The Spurs won handily tonight, taking their record to 15-7. That's without Leonard or Parker so far this season and after losing last season's starting center, Dedmon, to free agency. The Jazz beat the Pelicans tonight, taking their record to 12-11 -- just 1 game behind the Wolves. That's without their best defensive player, Rudy Gobert, for the past 2+ weeks and after losing their allstar SF and best all-around player, Hayward, and their starting PG from last season.

The Spurs and Jazz exemplify excellence as organizations, making shrewd draft decisions and hiring really good head coaches. The Jazz took Rudy Gobert with a first round pick they got from the Wolves for fricking cash. They drafted Mitchell with the 13th pick last season. And they have a heck of a head coach. The Spurs just continue to amaze.


I think you are wrong on gobert, we could of drafted him instead of gorgui, then we traded that last first to OKC for roberson. You know super duper smart move for a bad team. Makes a lot of sense.

But your point is the same. That is why I do not want to trade away that 1st we have this year. Even though another wing would help a lot it is not moving us to a title contender this year (what is fine), for the wolves to continue having success year after year we need to draft and develop young cheap talent to play roles. Patton, Tyus, the OKC 1st so important to sustained success.


No, I'm right. We traded down to get an extra pick that we used to draft Gorgui. But we still had the 26th or 27th pick in the draft from an earlier trade and we sold it for cash. We could have drafted Gobert with that pick we sold. I remember how pissed I was at the time and posted how ridiculous it was to sell a first round pick for cash, especially with Rudy Gobert still available. Teams rarely sell first round picks for cash. Leave it to the Wolves organization to do the dumb things that other organizations don't do.

Otherwise, we're in violent agreement. :). Keeping and making effective use of first round picks is key to building and maintaining a competitive team in today's NBA -- especially for a smaller market team like the Wolves. I would have loved to get CJ Miles, but I'm glad we held onto the OKC pick we got in exchange for Rubio. We had better hope that OKC makes the playoffs so we actually get that pick.


Obviously and wrongly, Flip liked Georgi better than Gobert. But I do understand not wanting three guaranteed contract rookies on the team. And those contracts make it tough to trade a later first for a second. Not saying he tried to make a trade, just that the mistake was who we took, not the trade for cash.