FA Predictions

[mjs34]

I think this needs to be put into a different view. Let's assume a couple of different variables are in play.

The mavs reach a verbal agreement with DJ, but he leaves for vacation before signing. While on vacation all other teams with cap space use it on other players including the Clips, who renounce DJ to open space for another signing. DJ comes back from vacation and the mavs lower their offer to 10 mil a season, or pull it altogether leaving DJ with no other options.

How long before the players, the union, and agents go ballistic?

[TRKO [enjin:12664595]]

I think this needs to be put into a different view. Let's assume a couple of different variables are in play.

The mavs reach a verbal agreement with DJ, but he leaves for vacation before signing. While on vacation all other teams with cap space use it on other players including the Clips, who renounce DJ to open space for another signing. DJ comes back from vacation and the mavs lower their offer to 10 mil a season, or pull it altogether leaving DJ with no other options.

How long before the players, the union, and agents go ballistic?

If the Mavs did that they would have an incredibly difficult time attracting free agents from here on out. It would be suicide.

[AbeVigodaLive]

I think this needs to be put into a different view. Let's assume a couple of different variables are in play.

The mavs reach a verbal agreement with DJ, but he leaves for vacation before signing. While on vacation all other teams with cap space use it on other players including the Clips, who renounce DJ to open space for another signing. DJ comes back from vacation and the mavs lower their offer to 10 mil a season, or pull it altogether leaving DJ with no other options.

How long before the players, the union, and agents go ballistic?

If the Mavs did that they would have an incredibly difficult time attracting free agents from here on out. It would be suicide.

Yep.

But, it brings up a good point. Let's say Jordan goes on that vacation. But, he gets drunk and accosts a female bartender. He allegedly punches her in the face.

Do the Mavs pull back the offer? Or, are they obligated to stand by their word as the criminal stuff plays out?

[mjs34]

I think this needs to be put into a different view. Let's assume a couple of different variables are in play.

The mavs reach a verbal agreement with DJ, but he leaves for vacation before signing. While on vacation all other teams with cap space use it on other players including the Clips, who renounce DJ to open space for another signing. DJ comes back from vacation and the mavs lower their offer to 10 mil a season, or pull it altogether leaving DJ with no other options.

How long before the players, the union, and agents go ballistic?

If the Mavs did that they would have an incredibly difficult time attracting free agents from here on out. It would be suicide.

Yep.

But, it brings up a good point. Let's say Jordan goes on that vacation. But, he gets drunk and accosts a female bartender. He allegedly punches her in the face.

Do the Mavs pull back the offer? Or, are they obligated to stand by their word as the criminal stuff plays out?

I don't think we even have to take it that far. DJ and his supporters are taking the stance that until the contract is signed, there is no binding agreement. Why can't teams use the same logic?

I'd be willing to bet that Cuban has about a dozen lawyers sitting in a room figuring out if he has any options. He may not have any recourse with the NBA, but can he file a civil suit against DJ for entering into a verbal agreement, and then causing harm to the Mavs by backing out?

[AbeVigodaLive]

I think this needs to be put into a different view. Let's assume a couple of different variables are in play.

The mavs reach a verbal agreement with DJ, but he leaves for vacation before signing. While on vacation all other teams with cap space use it on other players including the Clips, who renounce DJ to open space for another signing. DJ comes back from vacation and the mavs lower their offer to 10 mil a season, or pull it altogether leaving DJ with no other options.

How long before the players, the union, and agents go ballistic?

If the Mavs did that they would have an incredibly difficult time attracting free agents from here on out. It would be suicide.

Yep.

But, it brings up a good point. Let's say Jordan goes on that vacation. But, he gets drunk and accosts a female bartender. He allegedly punches her in the face.

Do the Mavs pull back the offer? Or, are they obligated to stand by their word as the criminal stuff plays out?

I don't think we even have to take it that far. DJ and his supporters are taking the stance that until the contract is signed, there is no binding agreement. Why can't teams use the same logic?

I'd be willing to bet that Cuban has about a dozen lawyers sitting in a room figuring out if he has any options. He may not have any recourse with the NBA, but can he file a civil suit against DJ for entering into a verbal agreement, and then causing harm to the Mavs by backing out?

But, as noted, it's a player's league. If a team was that shady to one guy... just to save a few bucks... word will spread and that team will be ostracized by other members of the fraternity.

It's possible it could happen. But it's pretty unlikely without just cause.

In any event, the moratorium should be gone.

[mjs34]

But, as noted, it's a player's league. If a team was that shady to one guy... just to save a few bucks... word will spread and that team will be ostracized by other members of the fraternity.

It's possible it could happen. But it's pretty unlikely without just cause.

In any event, the moratorium should be gone.

I agree with you to a point and I think the agents would be the bigger obstacle, but most of these guys are a bunch of whores and would still go for the biggest paycheck. Look at Melo in NY, and the losing situation he finds himself in. He would have been competing for a championship if he had taken the bulls offer, but he couldn't look past the extra attention and 30 mil that NY was offering.

I think Cuban has to take a stand on this.

[thedoper]

Yes DJ is ethically questionable for supposedly going back on his word. But this is all part of wooing high profile talent when it is in small supply. In the end a player can change their mind, that is what this period of negotiation is for. People change their minds in the 11th hour in business decisions all the time. I think the Mavs got what they deserved for being so publicly upfront about their tampering. Cuban can sue if he wants but I am sure Ballmer will gladly enter into a lawsuit with him. Good on the Clippers for fighting until the end as far as I see it. I do agree that the moratorium does complicate things though, if players want to sign right away I don't see a reason to stop them.

[bleedspeed]

It is darkest before the dawn. I think the Mavs will be better over 2-3 years down the road by having DJ go against his word.

[Monster]

It is darkest before the dawn. I think the Mavs will be better over 2-3 years down the road by having DJ go against his word.

I agree Bleed that this is a very possible outcome.

[TRKO [enjin:12664595]]

It is darkest before the dawn. I think the Mavs will be better over 2-3 years down the road by having DJ go against his word.

I totally agree too. Offensively Jordan is a complimentary player, not a first option. He is great defensively and on the boards. I think the Mavericks will be better off than making Jordan a number 1 option.