Anybody else struck by the way that people have referred to how he "needs to get help?" Even Ja's official statement after the video used that phrase. Listening to some of these talking heads, you'd think Ja was the guy that got beaten up.
I've also noticed that in other situations where people do things they shouldn't have done. A guy cheats on his wife and gets caught? His buddies say he needs space to get some help, even if they knew about the cheating before and never said anything. Dude steals from his company and gets caught? He asks for time to get the help he needs, though notice he didn't ask for that help before he got caught? Some lady lies like crazy to get a promotion at work, then gets caught when it all comes out? People need to understand she just needs some help to get through this difficult time. Guy intentionally causes an accident in a road rage incident? Lawyer swears to the jury how much his client is looking to get the help he needs.
To some degree, I get it. If there's a legit addiction or psychological issue underlying things, ok. And I do think it's important to consider the perspective of people who make mistakes generally. Especially in this day and age, it feels like there's always a shaming mob out there waiting to pounce, especially on the internet. Everybody goes through things that are tough in life, including and maybe especially people who behave badly, and we should all be sensitive to that.
But sometimes it just feels like people invoke that idea of "needing help" as an excuse for their actions or as a way of avoiding taking responsibility. Ok, yes, you might need help for your gambling addiction, but if you just blew your family's savings, the only thing you should be saying initially is "I'm sorry, here's why, and here's what I want to do to make up for it." Do you need therapy or counseling for whatever psychological issue drove you to seriously bully someone else? Sure. Go for it, my friend. But if you seriously bully someone else, the first thing you should be saying is "sorry" to that other person and taking responsibility.
The more people use the "I need help" excuse, the more hollow that phrase becomes. And that's a shame, because privately, I think plenty of people do need help. Hell, we all do to some extent. But the more people use that phrase publicly and immediately as an excuse or a deflection after getting caught doing something wrong, the more we see actual therapy as nothing more than window dressing. And that's a shame. Because I do honestly think a lot of us could use a little therapy and counseling and that even people who behave badly deserve our attempt to understand why. But invoking that in such a transparently self-serving way just cheapens it.
Claiming to need help is a way of saying "I'm a victim here." And to varying degrees, depending on the situation, ok, maybe you're a victim here. But it feels like a lot of people these days who say "I need help" are trying to draw attention to their own victimhood in order to obscure the fact that they have victimized others--the wife they cheated on, the company they stole from, the family whose savings they threw away, the person they bullied, the 17 year-old they physically assaulted, the security guard they berated or threatened.
Take responsibility, apologize, compensate any people you may have hurt, reflect honestly about what you did, and then, privately get real help sincerely if you need it. Later you can talk humbly about how you got help so others who might be in a similar situation don't feel ashamed to get it themselves if they need it. But right after getting caught doing something wrong? Don't rush to use and abuse that language to distract us, or yourself, from your responsibility for your actions.
Again, although some of the language I've heard around Ja has sparked my thinking on this, I'm speaking more generally here than about the Ja situation specifically. It just feels like it's become pretty ubiquitous.
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SameOldNudityDrew wrote:Anybody else struck by the way that people have referred to how he "needs to get help?" Even Ja's official statement after the video used that phrase. Listening to some of these talking heads, you'd think Ja was the guy that got beaten up.
I've also noticed that in other situations where people do things they shouldn't have done. A guy cheats on his wife and gets caught? His buddies say he needs space to get some help, even if they knew about the cheating before and never said anything. Dude steals from his company and gets caught? He asks for time to get the help he needs, though notice he didn't ask for that help before he got caught? Some lady lies like crazy to get a promotion at work, then gets caught when it all comes out? People need to understand she just needs some help to get through this difficult time. Guy intentionally causes an accident in a road rage incident? Lawyer swears to the jury how much his client is looking to get the help he needs.
To some degree, I get it. If there's a legit addiction or psychological issue underlying things, ok. And I do think it's important to consider the perspective of people who make mistakes generally. Especially in this day and age, it feels like there's always a shaming mob out there waiting to pounce, especially on the internet. Everybody goes through things that are tough in life, including and maybe especially people who behave badly, and we should all be sensitive to that.
But sometimes it just feels like people invoke that idea of "needing help" as an excuse for their actions or as a way of avoiding taking responsibility. Ok, yes, you might need help for your gambling addiction, but if you just blew your family's savings, the only thing you should be saying initially is "I'm sorry, here's why, and here's what I want to do to make up for it." Do you need therapy or counseling for whatever psychological issue drove you to seriously bully someone else? Sure. Go for it, my friend. But if you seriously bully someone else, the first thing you should be saying is "sorry" to that other person and taking responsibility.
The more people use the "I need help" excuse, the more hollow that phrase becomes. And that's a shame, because privately, I think plenty of people do need help. Hell, we all do to some extent. But the more people use that phrase publicly and immediately as an excuse or a deflection after getting caught doing something wrong, the more we see actual therapy as nothing more than window dressing. And that's a shame. Because I do honestly think a lot of us could use a little therapy and counseling and that even people who behave badly deserve our attempt to understand why. But invoking that in such a transparently self-serving way just cheapens it.
Claiming to need help is a way of saying "I'm a victim here." And to varying degrees, depending on the situation, ok, maybe you're a victim here. But it feels like a lot of people these days who say "I need help" are trying to draw attention to their own victimhood in order to obscure the fact that they have victimized others--the wife they cheated on, the company they stole from, the family whose savings they threw away, the person they bullied, the 17 year-old they physically assaulted, the security guard they berated or threatened.
Take responsibility, apologize, compensate any people you may have hurt, reflect honestly about what you did, and then, privately get real help sincerely if you need it. Later you can talk humbly about how you got help so others who might be in a similar situation don't feel ashamed to get it themselves if they need it. But right after getting caught doing something wrong? Don't rush to use and abuse that language to distract us, or yourself, from your responsibility for your actions.
Again, although some of the language I've heard around Ja has sparked my thinking on this, I'm speaking more generally here than about the Ja situation specifically. It just feels like it's become pretty ubiquitous.
When someone says he needs help, it's not that he needs therapy or professional assistance or meds or anything like that. I think many view him as a smart kid who's making dumb decisions. If he was already a dumb kid, we'd just sit back and watch him crash out. What he needs is a sitdown where he has to take a step back and see how he got here. Fix those things and it becomes a blip on his career. This happened to Carmelo Anthony early in his career (and he was really from the trenches) and he eventually got his act together and just played ball. It's to prevent him from what the next step will be which is ultimately that he'll do something really reprehensible or get himself into a situation his clout can't get himself out of. I think "help" is a poor choice of words. More like a re-evaluation of his choices.
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SameOldNudityDrew wrote:Anybody else struck by the way that people have referred to how he "needs to get help?" Even Ja's official statement after the video used that phrase. Listening to some of these talking heads, you'd think Ja was the guy that got beaten up.
I've also noticed that in other situations where people do things they shouldn't have done. A guy cheats on his wife and gets caught? His buddies say he needs space to get some help, even if they knew about the cheating before and never said anything. Dude steals from his company and gets caught? He asks for time to get the help he needs, though notice he didn't ask for that help before he got caught? Some lady lies like crazy to get a promotion at work, then gets caught when it all comes out? People need to understand she just needs some help to get through this difficult time. Guy intentionally causes an accident in a road rage incident? Lawyer swears to the jury how much his client is looking to get the help he needs.
To some degree, I get it. If there's a legit addiction or psychological issue underlying things, ok. And I do think it's important to consider the perspective of people who make mistakes generally. Especially in this day and age, it feels like there's always a shaming mob out there waiting to pounce, especially on the internet. Everybody goes through things that are tough in life, including and maybe especially people who behave badly, and we should all be sensitive to that.
But sometimes it just feels like people invoke that idea of "needing help" as an excuse for their actions or as a way of avoiding taking responsibility. Ok, yes, you might need help for your gambling addiction, but if you just blew your family's savings, the only thing you should be saying initially is "I'm sorry, here's why, and here's what I want to do to make up for it." Do you need therapy or counseling for whatever psychological issue drove you to seriously bully someone else? Sure. Go for it, my friend. But if you seriously bully someone else, the first thing you should be saying is "sorry" to that other person and taking responsibility.
The more people use the "I need help" excuse, the more hollow that phrase becomes. And that's a shame, because privately, I think plenty of people do need help. Hell, we all do to some extent. But the more people use that phrase publicly and immediately as an excuse or a deflection after getting caught doing something wrong, the more we see actual therapy as nothing more than window dressing. And that's a shame. Because I do honestly think a lot of us could use a little therapy and counseling and that even people who behave badly deserve our attempt to understand why. But invoking that in such a transparently self-serving way just cheapens it.
Claiming to need help is a way of saying "I'm a victim here." And to varying degrees, depending on the situation, ok, maybe you're a victim here. But it feels like a lot of people these days who say "I need help" are trying to draw attention to their own victimhood in order to obscure the fact that they have victimized others--the wife they cheated on, the company they stole from, the family whose savings they threw away, the person they bullied, the 17 year-old they physically assaulted, the security guard they berated or threatened.
Take responsibility, apologize, compensate any people you may have hurt, reflect honestly about what you did, and then, privately get real help sincerely if you need it. Later you can talk humbly about how you got help so others who might be in a similar situation don't feel ashamed to get it themselves if they need it. But right after getting caught doing something wrong? Don't rush to use and abuse that language to distract us, or yourself, from your responsibility for your actions.
Again, although some of the language I've heard around Ja has sparked my thinking on this, I'm speaking more generally here than about the Ja situation specifically. It just feels like it's become pretty ubiquitous.
New York just elected a politician that lied his way in, and are doing nothing to revoke his nomination.
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TheFuture wrote:SameOldNudityDrew wrote:Anybody else struck by the way that people have referred to how he "needs to get help?" Even Ja's official statement after the video used that phrase. Listening to some of these talking heads, you'd think Ja was the guy that got beaten up.
I've also noticed that in other situations where people do things they shouldn't have done. A guy cheats on his wife and gets caught? His buddies say he needs space to get some help, even if they knew about the cheating before and never said anything. Dude steals from his company and gets caught? He asks for time to get the help he needs, though notice he didn't ask for that help before he got caught? Some lady lies like crazy to get a promotion at work, then gets caught when it all comes out? People need to understand she just needs some help to get through this difficult time. Guy intentionally causes an accident in a road rage incident? Lawyer swears to the jury how much his client is looking to get the help he needs.
To some degree, I get it. If there's a legit addiction or psychological issue underlying things, ok. And I do think it's important to consider the perspective of people who make mistakes generally. Especially in this day and age, it feels like there's always a shaming mob out there waiting to pounce, especially on the internet. Everybody goes through things that are tough in life, including and maybe especially people who behave badly, and we should all be sensitive to that.
But sometimes it just feels like people invoke that idea of "needing help" as an excuse for their actions or as a way of avoiding taking responsibility. Ok, yes, you might need help for your gambling addiction, but if you just blew your family's savings, the only thing you should be saying initially is "I'm sorry, here's why, and here's what I want to do to make up for it." Do you need therapy or counseling for whatever psychological issue drove you to seriously bully someone else? Sure. Go for it, my friend. But if you seriously bully someone else, the first thing you should be saying is "sorry" to that other person and taking responsibility.
The more people use the "I need help" excuse, the more hollow that phrase becomes. And that's a shame, because privately, I think plenty of people do need help. Hell, we all do to some extent. But the more people use that phrase publicly and immediately as an excuse or a deflection after getting caught doing something wrong, the more we see actual therapy as nothing more than window dressing. And that's a shame. Because I do honestly think a lot of us could use a little therapy and counseling and that even people who behave badly deserve our attempt to understand why. But invoking that in such a transparently self-serving way just cheapens it.
Claiming to need help is a way of saying "I'm a victim here." And to varying degrees, depending on the situation, ok, maybe you're a victim here. But it feels like a lot of people these days who say "I need help" are trying to draw attention to their own victimhood in order to obscure the fact that they have victimized others--the wife they cheated on, the company they stole from, the family whose savings they threw away, the person they bullied, the 17 year-old they physically assaulted, the security guard they berated or threatened.
Take responsibility, apologize, compensate any people you may have hurt, reflect honestly about what you did, and then, privately get real help sincerely if you need it. Later you can talk humbly about how you got help so others who might be in a similar situation don't feel ashamed to get it themselves if they need it. But right after getting caught doing something wrong? Don't rush to use and abuse that language to distract us, or yourself, from your responsibility for your actions.
Again, although some of the language I've heard around Ja has sparked my thinking on this, I'm speaking more generally here than about the Ja situation specifically. It just feels like it's become pretty ubiquitous.
New York just elected a politician that lied his way in, and are doing nothing to revoke his nomination.
You mean Santos? Most of that district regrets it and are trying to get him ousted.
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Meh. All I know is that it usually takes between 3 and 5 days to get the necessary help to get back in the mix and ready to go.
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WildWolf2813 wrote:TheFuture wrote:SameOldNudityDrew wrote:Anybody else struck by the way that people have referred to how he "needs to get help?" Even Ja's official statement after the video used that phrase. Listening to some of these talking heads, you'd think Ja was the guy that got beaten up.
I've also noticed that in other situations where people do things they shouldn't have done. A guy cheats on his wife and gets caught? His buddies say he needs space to get some help, even if they knew about the cheating before and never said anything. Dude steals from his company and gets caught? He asks for time to get the help he needs, though notice he didn't ask for that help before he got caught? Some lady lies like crazy to get a promotion at work, then gets caught when it all comes out? People need to understand she just needs some help to get through this difficult time. Guy intentionally causes an accident in a road rage incident? Lawyer swears to the jury how much his client is looking to get the help he needs.
To some degree, I get it. If there's a legit addiction or psychological issue underlying things, ok. And I do think it's important to consider the perspective of people who make mistakes generally. Especially in this day and age, it feels like there's always a shaming mob out there waiting to pounce, especially on the internet. Everybody goes through things that are tough in life, including and maybe especially people who behave badly, and we should all be sensitive to that.
But sometimes it just feels like people invoke that idea of "needing help" as an excuse for their actions or as a way of avoiding taking responsibility. Ok, yes, you might need help for your gambling addiction, but if you just blew your family's savings, the only thing you should be saying initially is "I'm sorry, here's why, and here's what I want to do to make up for it." Do you need therapy or counseling for whatever psychological issue drove you to seriously bully someone else? Sure. Go for it, my friend. But if you seriously bully someone else, the first thing you should be saying is "sorry" to that other person and taking responsibility.
The more people use the "I need help" excuse, the more hollow that phrase becomes. And that's a shame, because privately, I think plenty of people do need help. Hell, we all do to some extent. But the more people use that phrase publicly and immediately as an excuse or a deflection after getting caught doing something wrong, the more we see actual therapy as nothing more than window dressing. And that's a shame. Because I do honestly think a lot of us could use a little therapy and counseling and that even people who behave badly deserve our attempt to understand why. But invoking that in such a transparently self-serving way just cheapens it.
Claiming to need help is a way of saying "I'm a victim here." And to varying degrees, depending on the situation, ok, maybe you're a victim here. But it feels like a lot of people these days who say "I need help" are trying to draw attention to their own victimhood in order to obscure the fact that they have victimized others--the wife they cheated on, the company they stole from, the family whose savings they threw away, the person they bullied, the 17 year-old they physically assaulted, the security guard they berated or threatened.
Take responsibility, apologize, compensate any people you may have hurt, reflect honestly about what you did, and then, privately get real help sincerely if you need it. Later you can talk humbly about how you got help so others who might be in a similar situation don't feel ashamed to get it themselves if they need it. But right after getting caught doing something wrong? Don't rush to use and abuse that language to distract us, or yourself, from your responsibility for your actions.
Again, although some of the language I've heard around Ja has sparked my thinking on this, I'm speaking more generally here than about the Ja situation specifically. It just feels like it's become pretty ubiquitous.
New York just elected a politician that lied his way in, and are doing nothing to revoke his nomination.
You mean Santos? Most of that district regrets it and are trying to get him ousted.
Yes Santos. How does becoming aware remove naivety?
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:Meh. All I know is that it usually takes between 3 and 5 days to get the necessary help to get back in the mix and ready to go.
That's about right, Abe, although it can take up to 10 days for the really difficult cases.
Re: Morant
Ja Morant seen flashing a fun on Instagram last night. This story is going to get interesting real quick
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What a moron...is there any hope for this guy?