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Camden wrote:I'd have to check on this again, but I don't think Nathan Knight can be signed to another two-way deal. I think he's a likely to receive a deal similar to the one Jordan McLaughlin signed last summer.


Speaking of McLaughlin... That guy really blossomed post all-star break, and played pretty damn well in the playoffs. If he continues that play into this next season, our backup PG spot is in pretty solid hands.
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60WinTim wrote:
Camden wrote:I'd have to check on this again, but I don't think Nathan Knight can be signed to another two-way deal. I think he's a likely to receive a deal similar to the one Jordan McLaughlin signed last summer.


Speaking of McLaughlin... That guy really blossomed post all-star break, and played pretty damn well in the playoffs. If he continues that play into this next season, our backup PG spot is in pretty solid hands.


Yeah, his progression from a weak point defensively to a playmaker on that end has been very surprising. His smaller physical profile is made up for with quick hands, effort, and a high basketball IQ. I could still see Minnesota reinforcing that backup point guard spot, but I'm comfortable with McLaughlin heading into the season.
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Camden wrote:I'd have to check on this again, but I don't think Nathan Knight can be signed to another two-way deal. I think he's a likely to receive a deal similar to the one Jordan McLaughlin signed last summer.


Two-way contracts are limited to 2 years. Nathan has only one year as a two-way player so I think he can sign another one-year two-way deal. In fact, the Wolves just extended a two-way qualifying offer to Knight. If no other team makes him an offer, then he'll be under a two-way contract with the Wolves next season unless the Wolves choose to convert him to a regular roster contract. Finch apparently really likes him. I don't think he's going to get an offer. So I'd keep him on a two-way and sign Moses Brown to a minimum regular roster contract. I'd look at Brown as a guy who could POTENTIALLY bring SOME of what Gobert brings to provide some schematic continuity when Gobert isn't on the floor. And he could learn from Gobert over the next four years.
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Camden wrote:
60WinTim wrote:
Camden wrote:I'd have to check on this again, but I don't think Nathan Knight can be signed to another two-way deal. I think he's a likely to receive a deal similar to the one Jordan McLaughlin signed last summer.


Speaking of McLaughlin... That guy really blossomed post all-star break, and played pretty damn well in the playoffs. If he continues that play into this next season, our backup PG spot is in pretty solid hands.


Yeah, his progression from a weak point defensively to a playmaker on that end has been very surprising. His smaller physical profile is made up for with quick hands, effort, and a high basketball IQ. I could still see Minnesota reinforcing that backup point guard spot, but I'm comfortable with McLaughlin heading into the season.


I'm particularly comfortable with JMac knowing that we have Nowell and Kyle Anderson who can probably run the offense for stretches. And at some point, we should expect Ant to become someone who can function as our lead guard for stretches. But DLO needs to stay healthy. :)
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lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:I'd have to check on this again, but I don't think Nathan Knight can be signed to another two-way deal. I think he's a likely to receive a deal similar to the one Jordan McLaughlin signed last summer.


Two-way contracts are limited to 2 years. Nathan has only one year as a two-way player so I think he can sign another one-year two-way deal. In fact, the Wolves just extended a two-way qualifying offer to Knight. If no other team makes him an offer, then he'll be under a two-way contract with the Wolves next season unless the Wolves choose to convert him to a regular roster contract. Finch apparently really likes him. I don't think he's going to get an offer. So I'd keep him on a two-way and sign Moses Brown to a minimum regular roster contract. I'd look at Brown as a guy who could POTENTIALLY bring SOME of what Gobert brings to provide some schematic continuity when Gobert isn't on the floor. And he could learn from Gobert over the next four years.


Nathan Knight signed a two-way contract with the Atlanta Hawks for the 2020-21 season. And then the Minnesota Timberwolves signed him to a two-way deal last year. That's what I'm getting at. I think the qualifying offer just gives the front office the opportunity to match any offer he gets from another team, but we'd have to sign him to an NBA deal. Again, I could be wrong and need to check on this, but that's where my head is.
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lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:
60WinTim wrote:
Camden wrote:I'd have to check on this again, but I don't think Nathan Knight can be signed to another two-way deal. I think he's a likely to receive a deal similar to the one Jordan McLaughlin signed last summer.


Speaking of McLaughlin... That guy really blossomed post all-star break, and played pretty damn well in the playoffs. If he continues that play into this next season, our backup PG spot is in pretty solid hands.


Yeah, his progression from a weak point defensively to a playmaker on that end has been very surprising. His smaller physical profile is made up for with quick hands, effort, and a high basketball IQ. I could still see Minnesota reinforcing that backup point guard spot, but I'm comfortable with McLaughlin heading into the season.


I'm particularly comfortable with JMac knowing that we have Nowell and Kyle Anderson who can probably run the offense for stretches. And at some point, we should expect Ant to become someone who can function as our lead guard for stretches. But DLO needs to stay healthy. :)


I think the Wolves should look to add another PG type because of either McLaughin or Russell was hurt that would be a little problematic. If nobody was particularly thrilling available they could just leave the roster spot open and sign a player when needed. This is not my preference.
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Camden wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:I'd have to check on this again, but I don't think Nathan Knight can be signed to another two-way deal. I think he's a likely to receive a deal similar to the one Jordan McLaughlin signed last summer.


Two-way contracts are limited to 2 years. Nathan has only one year as a two-way player so I think he can sign another one-year two-way deal. In fact, the Wolves just extended a two-way qualifying offer to Knight. If no other team makes him an offer, then he'll be under a two-way contract with the Wolves next season unless the Wolves choose to convert him to a regular roster contract. Finch apparently really likes him. I don't think he's going to get an offer. So I'd keep him on a two-way and sign Moses Brown to a minimum regular roster contract. I'd look at Brown as a guy who could POTENTIALLY bring SOME of what Gobert brings to provide some schematic continuity when Gobert isn't on the floor. And he could learn from Gobert over the next four years.


Nathan Knight signed a two-way contract with the Atlanta Hawks for the 2020-21 season. And then the Minnesota Timberwolves signed him to a two-way deal last year. That's what I'm getting at. I think the qualifying offer just gives the front office the opportunity to match any offer he gets from another team, but we'd have to sign him to an NBA deal. Again, I could be wrong and need to check on this, but that's where my head is.


Just checked again to be sure. Players can play 3 total seasons on 2-way deals. Players signing a 2 way contract including that 2-way contract they would sign that has no more than 3 years of NBA service time can sign a 2-way deal.
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Camden wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:I'd have to check on this again, but I don't think Nathan Knight can be signed to another two-way deal. I think he's a likely to receive a deal similar to the one Jordan McLaughlin signed last summer.


Two-way contracts are limited to 2 years. Nathan has only one year as a two-way player so I think he can sign another one-year two-way deal. In fact, the Wolves just extended a two-way qualifying offer to Knight. If no other team makes him an offer, then he'll be under a two-way contract with the Wolves next season unless the Wolves choose to convert him to a regular roster contract. Finch apparently really likes him. I don't think he's going to get an offer. So I'd keep him on a two-way and sign Moses Brown to a minimum regular roster contract. I'd look at Brown as a guy who could POTENTIALLY bring SOME of what Gobert brings to provide some schematic continuity when Gobert isn't on the floor. And he could learn from Gobert over the next four years.


Nathan Knight signed a two-way contract with the Atlanta Hawks for the 2020-21 season. And then the Minnesota Timberwolves signed him to a two-way deal last year. That's what I'm getting at. I think the qualifying offer just gives the front office the opportunity to match any offer he gets from another team, but we'd have to sign him to an NBA deal. Again, I could be wrong and need to check on this, but that's where my head is.


I see. I didn't know he was on a two-way in Atlanta. I'm not sure either. Here's a question, Cam. I'll start with the premise that the Wolves like Knight, based on what Finch has said about him and the Wolves' actions to date. I'll also start with the premise that he can't be signed to another 2-way deal. If you had the choice to sign Nathan Knight or Moses Brown, who would you sign and why?
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I wouldn't mind giving Knight a J-Mac type of deal because I think he's got a lot of development left. He could learn a lot from Rudy & Kat.
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monsterpile wrote:
Camden wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:I'd have to check on this again, but I don't think Nathan Knight can be signed to another two-way deal. I think he's a likely to receive a deal similar to the one Jordan McLaughlin signed last summer.


Two-way contracts are limited to 2 years. Nathan has only one year as a two-way player so I think he can sign another one-year two-way deal. In fact, the Wolves just extended a two-way qualifying offer to Knight. If no other team makes him an offer, then he'll be under a two-way contract with the Wolves next season unless the Wolves choose to convert him to a regular roster contract. Finch apparently really likes him. I don't think he's going to get an offer. So I'd keep him on a two-way and sign Moses Brown to a minimum regular roster contract. I'd look at Brown as a guy who could POTENTIALLY bring SOME of what Gobert brings to provide some schematic continuity when Gobert isn't on the floor. And he could learn from Gobert over the next four years.


Nathan Knight signed a two-way contract with the Atlanta Hawks for the 2020-21 season. And then the Minnesota Timberwolves signed him to a two-way deal last year. That's what I'm getting at. I think the qualifying offer just gives the front office the opportunity to match any offer he gets from another team, but we'd have to sign him to an NBA deal. Again, I could be wrong and need to check on this, but that's where my head is.


Just checked again to be sure. Players can play 3 total seasons on 2-way deals. Players signing a 2 way contract including that 2-way contract they would sign that has no more than 3 years of NBA service time can sign a 2-way deal.


Thanks, Monster. I think that means Nathan Knight can have one more year with the Wolves on a 2-way contract. Do I have that right?
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