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Was just listening to Zach lowe and he said the Wolves want to add pick #6 to help them trade for a star. Curious what star that will be!

Phenom's_Revenge wrote:So after connecting some dots with little bits of information I came up with this. Who says no?

Hawks trade pick 6 and Dedmon for Oubre and pick 17.
Wolves trade pick 17, Johnson, Culver, and Layman for pick 6, Rubio, and Dedmon.
Thunder trade Paul for pick 10, Johnson, and Culver.
Suns trade Oubre, Rubio, pick 10 for Paul, Layman and pick 25.

OKC.

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

Phenom's_Revenge wrote:So after connecting some dots with little bits of information I came up with this. Who says no?

Hawks trade pick 6 and Dedmon for Oubre and pick 17.
Wolves trade pick 17, Johnson, Culver, and Layman for pick 6, Rubio, and Dedmon.
Thunder trade Paul for pick 10, Johnson, and Culver.
Suns trade Oubre, Rubio, pick 10 for Paul, Layman and pick 25.

OKC.

Interesting. It sounds as though they want as little salary commitment as possible. Paul to Johnson shaves a bunch of money off the books. I guess it depends on their mindset for this year because it's not a win now trade for them but it seems like they have been collecting assets and that's what this trade brings them.

Phenom's_Revenge wrote:So after connecting some dots with little bits of information I came up with this. Who says no?

Hawks trade pick 6 and Dedmon for Oubre and pick 17.
Wolves trade pick 17, Johnson, Culver, and Layman for pick 6, Rubio, and Dedmon.
Thunder trade Paul for pick 10, Johnson, and Culver.
Suns trade Oubre, Rubio, pick 10 for Paul, Layman and pick 25.

Rosas would say no. He's not trading for a 35-year old. If Rosas is in the market for a star, he'll be looking for someone close in age to his current duo of Towns and Russell. So I think it comes down to Simmons, Beal or Booker. I can't think of another young star might conceivably be available. And I honestly don't think Booker will be gettable. So I think it's Simmons or Beal. Simmons would be the guy I'd want, but that would probably require the Wizards to send Beal to the Wizards in a 3-way.

As I've written several times before, I think the Wizards are ready to blow it up and start a rebuild. Their front office can't possibly believe that John Wall will return at his age from an Achilles tear and combine with Beal to take the Wizards from one of the worst teams in the League to playoff contention. And they have to know that the team will become a championship contender with those two as their core. So while Wizards front office talks publicly about wanting to keep Beal and take a shot with Wall, I've never believed them.

Phenom's_Revenge wrote:

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

Phenom's_Revenge wrote:So after connecting some dots with little bits of information I came up with this. Who says no?

Hawks trade pick 6 and Dedmon for Oubre and pick 17.
Wolves trade pick 17, Johnson, Culver, and Layman for pick 6, Rubio, and Dedmon.
Thunder trade Paul for pick 10, Johnson, and Culver.
Suns trade Oubre, Rubio, pick 10 for Paul, Layman and pick 25.

OKC.

Interesting. It sounds as though they want as little salary commitment as possible. Paul to Johnson shaves a bunch of money off the books. I guess it depends on their mindset for this year because it's not a win now trade for them but it seems like they have been collecting assets and that's what this trade brings them.

They have A LOT of assets. Plenty of assets. They were also a playoff team.

Trading Paul for that mix takes them out of the playoffs immediately and puts them in the Promise of Hope category. Or, they trade Paul for a decent player AND still have plenty of assets without plummeting out of the chase.

So I heard about this rumor this morning (Wolves discussing trade of Culver+17 for #6) and I'm alright with it to get a better schematic fit, but I'm re-thinking the scenario again now and part of me wonders (if it's not part of a trade for a star) if we might actually be overlooking the obvious here...

Taking star players out of the equation and looking strictly at what we would be looking at if we picked..
Wolves trade SG Jarrett Culver... There happens to be a SG who has long been connected to the #1 pick in Anthony Edwards. You just cleared a spot for him. Then you're drafting at #6 where another player who fits the scheme sits...Obi Toppin.

Not suggesting this is what will happen, and that might be too many cooks in the kitchen when it comes to scorers, but I hadn't heard it mentioned yet in this thread and seems to be one obvious reason why a team might want to trade a starting wing (because you're planning on drafting a starting wing at #1).

mrhockey89 wrote:So I heard about this rumor this morning (Wolves discussing trade of Culver+17 for #6) and I'm alright with it to get a better schematic fit, but I'm re-thinking the scenario again now and part of me wonders (if it's not part of a trade for a star) if we might actually be overlooking the obvious here...

Taking star players out of the equation and looking strictly at what we would be looking at if we picked..
Wolves trade SG Jarrett Culver... There happens to be a SG who has long been connected to the #1 pick in Anthony Edwards. You just cleared a spot for him. Then you're drafting at #6 where another player who fits the scheme sits...Obi Toppin.

Not suggesting this is what will happen, and that might be too many cooks in the kitchen when it comes to scorers, but I hadn't heard it mentioned yet in this thread and seems to be one obvious reason why a team might want to trade a starting wing (because you're planning on drafting a starting wing at #1).

Eh, maybe you're right, mrhockey, but I think that would be sloppy and irresponsible asset management from Gersson Rosas and the Wolves. To basically dump last year's sixth overall pick at an unfavorable evaluation in order to replace him with less than a sure thing just wouldn't sit well with me. I tend to think Rosas is smarter than that too.

Either he's compiling assets that a team has requested in order to facilitate a trade for an All-Star or the Wolves have a group of prospects no larger than the top-eight that they feel are considerably better than the rest and want to double-dip from that pool.

If you're right and Minnesota does indeed have their eyes on Anthony Edwards, then they absolutely need to trade down before selecting him. The secret lies with Charlotte... Where are my National Treasure, Nicholas Cage fans? Anybody? Just me? Alright.

Camden0916 wrote:

mrhockey89 wrote:So I heard about this rumor this morning (Wolves discussing trade of Culver+17 for #6) and I'm alright with it to get a better schematic fit, but I'm re-thinking the scenario again now and part of me wonders (if it's not part of a trade for a star) if we might actually be overlooking the obvious here...

Taking star players out of the equation and looking strictly at what we would be looking at if we picked..
Wolves trade SG Jarrett Culver... There happens to be a SG who has long been connected to the #1 pick in Anthony Edwards. You just cleared a spot for him. Then you're drafting at #6 where another player who fits the scheme sits...Obi Toppin.

Not suggesting this is what will happen, and that might be too many cooks in the kitchen when it comes to scorers, but I hadn't heard it mentioned yet in this thread and seems to be one obvious reason why a team might want to trade a starting wing (because you're planning on drafting a starting wing at #1).

Eh, maybe you're right, mrhockey, but I think that would be sloppy and irresponsible asset management from Gersson Rosas and the Wolves. To basically dump last year's sixth overall pick at an unfavorable evaluation in order to replace him with less than a sure thing just wouldn't sit well with me. I tend to think Rosas is smarter than that too.

Either he's compiling assets that a team has requested in order to facilitate a trade for an All-Star or the Wolves have a group of prospects no larger than the top-eight that they feel are considerably better than the rest and want to double-dip from that pool.

If you're right and Minnesota does indeed have their eyes on Anthony Edwards, then they absolutely need to trade down before selecting him. The secret lies with Charlotte... Where are my National Treasure, Nicholas Cage fans? Anybody? Just me? Alright.

I'm drunk it's two am. Lmao. I read it in a Nicholas Xage impression and then started annoying my wife with spider verse lines. Cheers Cam

Jester1534 wrote:

Camden0916 wrote:

mrhockey89 wrote:So I heard about this rumor this morning (Wolves discussing trade of Culver+17 for #6) and I'm alright with it to get a better schematic fit, but I'm re-thinking the scenario again now and part of me wonders (if it's not part of a trade for a star) if we might actually be overlooking the obvious here...

Taking star players out of the equation and looking strictly at what we would be looking at if we picked..
Wolves trade SG Jarrett Culver... There happens to be a SG who has long been connected to the #1 pick in Anthony Edwards. You just cleared a spot for him. Then you're drafting at #6 where another player who fits the scheme sits...Obi Toppin.

Not suggesting this is what will happen, and that might be too many cooks in the kitchen when it comes to scorers, but I hadn't heard it mentioned yet in this thread and seems to be one obvious reason why a team might want to trade a starting wing (because you're planning on drafting a starting wing at #1).

Eh, maybe you're right, mrhockey, but I think that would be sloppy and irresponsible asset management from Gersson Rosas and the Wolves. To basically dump last year's sixth overall pick at an unfavorable evaluation in order to replace him with less than a sure thing just wouldn't sit well with me. I tend to think Rosas is smarter than that too.

Either he's compiling assets that a team has requested in order to facilitate a trade for an All-Star or the Wolves have a group of prospects no larger than the top-eight that they feel are considerably better than the rest and want to double-dip from that pool.

If you're right and Minnesota does indeed have their eyes on Anthony Edwards, then they absolutely need to trade down before selecting him. The secret lies with Charlotte... Where are my National Treasure, Nicholas Cage fans? Anybody? Just me? Alright.

I'm drunk it's two am. Lmao. I read it in a Nicholas Xage impression and then started annoying my wife with spider verse lines. Cheers Cam

Well, good to know someone is making the most this pandemic to engage in healthy habits and renewed relationships!

:)

Q12543 wrote:

Jester1534 wrote:

Camden0916 wrote:

mrhockey89 wrote:So I heard about this rumor this morning (Wolves discussing trade of Culver+17 for #6) and I'm alright with it to get a better schematic fit, but I'm re-thinking the scenario again now and part of me wonders (if it's not part of a trade for a star) if we might actually be overlooking the obvious here...

Taking star players out of the equation and looking strictly at what we would be looking at if we picked..
Wolves trade SG Jarrett Culver... There happens to be a SG who has long been connected to the #1 pick in Anthony Edwards. You just cleared a spot for him. Then you're drafting at #6 where another player who fits the scheme sits...Obi Toppin.

Not suggesting this is what will happen, and that might be too many cooks in the kitchen when it comes to scorers, but I hadn't heard it mentioned yet in this thread and seems to be one obvious reason why a team might want to trade a starting wing (because you're planning on drafting a starting wing at #1).

Eh, maybe you're right, mrhockey, but I think that would be sloppy and irresponsible asset management from Gersson Rosas and the Wolves. To basically dump last year's sixth overall pick at an unfavorable evaluation in order to replace him with less than a sure thing just wouldn't sit well with me. I tend to think Rosas is smarter than that too.

Either he's compiling assets that a team has requested in order to facilitate a trade for an All-Star or the Wolves have a group of prospects no larger than the top-eight that they feel are considerably better than the rest and want to double-dip from that pool.

If you're right and Minnesota does indeed have their eyes on Anthony Edwards, then they absolutely need to trade down before selecting him. The secret lies with Charlotte... Where are my National Treasure, Nicholas Cage fans? Anybody? Just me? Alright.

I'm drunk it's two am. Lmao. I read it in a Nicholas Xage impression and then started annoying my wife with spider verse lines. Cheers Cam

Well, good to know someone is making the most this pandemic to engage in healthy habits and renewed relationships!

:)

Andy Samberg does a good Nic Cage when he was on SNL. Get in the Cage!