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Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:43 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
As expected, the Los Angeles Clippers have waived Harry Giles.
I'd still like to see the Timberwolves sign him. They need the added size and he's shown to be serviceable in recent years. Not to mention, he showed some good tools during the preseason. This should be an easy decision.
Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:31 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
Dennis Smith Jr. made Portland's roster after a series of cuts today. Good for him. I still think there's some juice there.
Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:25 pm
by FNG
Camden wrote:As expected, the Los Angeles Clippers have waived Harry Giles.
I'd still like to see the Timberwolves sign him. They need the added size and he's shown to be serviceable in recent years. Not to mention, he showed some good tools during the preseason. This should be an easy decision.
It's hard to believe Giles was once the #1 high school recruit when he went to play for Duke. Despite his lack of success, I agree that this should be an easy decision for three reasons:
1) The Wolves are absurdly small. We thought they were small last year, but with Davis and Juancho gone, there is literally nobody capable of playing minutes at center if either KAT or Naz goes down.
2) There is no other center available. I mean take a look. Do you see anyone else out there with size who is a viable option?
3) He's actually quite skilled. If you've seen him in a pick and roll situation, you wonder why he hasn't had any success offensively in the NBA. I could actually see him being relatively effective in a 2-man game with DLo or J-Mac. And he's also a surprisingly good passer.
There may be a couple other teams out there that may be interested in him for backup size, but nobody needs him as much as the Wolves do. It has to happen.
(hard to believe Rosas left this roster in such bad shape that some of us are pining for Harry Giles, but that's the reality right now)
Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:39 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
Jon Krawczynski: "They're going to stay at 14 players. No room under the tax."
Welp. A lack of creativity sounds about right for Minnesota's front office. Some things never change.
Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:45 pm
by FNG
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Camden wrote:Jon Krawczynski: "They're going to stay at 14 players. No room under the tax."
Welp. A lack of creativity sounds about right for Minnesota's front office. Some things never change.
We're clearly not thinking outside the box like management is. Gupta sees what we can't...big minutes as a backup center for Josh Okogie.
Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:08 pm
by kekgeek
Culver is the last player to make the Grizzlies roster (he was bad in the preseason again). He beat out Timberwolves great Kris Dunn to make the roster
Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:18 pm
by Sundog
FNG wrote:Camden wrote:As expected, the Los Angeles Clippers have waived Harry Giles.
I'd still like to see the Timberwolves sign him. They need the added size and he's shown to be serviceable in recent years. Not to mention, he showed some good tools during the preseason. This should be an easy decision.
It's hard to believe Giles was once the #1 high school recruit when he went to play for Duke. Despite his lack of success, I agree that this should be an easy decision for three reasons:
1) The Wolves are absurdly small. We thought they were small last year, but with Davis and Juancho gone, there is literally nobody capable of playing minutes at center if either KAT or Naz goes down.
2) There is no other center available. I mean take a look. Do you see anyone else out there with size who is a viable option?
3) He's actually quite skilled. If you've seen him in a pick and roll situation, you wonder why he hasn't had any success offensively in the NBA. I could actually see him being relatively effective in a 2-man game with DLo or J-Mac. And he's also a surprisingly good passer.
There may be a couple other teams out there that may be interested in him for backup size, but nobody needs him as much as the Wolves do. It has to happen.
(hard to believe Rosas left this roster in such bad shape that some of us are pining for Harry Giles, but that's the reality right now)
Marquese Chriss?
Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:22 pm
by FNG
Sundog60 wrote:FNG wrote:Camden wrote:As expected, the Los Angeles Clippers have waived Harry Giles.
I'd still like to see the Timberwolves sign him. They need the added size and he's shown to be serviceable in recent years. Not to mention, he showed some good tools during the preseason. This should be an easy decision.
It's hard to believe Giles was once the #1 high school recruit when he went to play for Duke. Despite his lack of success, I agree that this should be an easy decision for three reasons:
1) The Wolves are absurdly small. We thought they were small last year, but with Davis and Juancho gone, there is literally nobody capable of playing minutes at center if either KAT or Naz goes down.
2) There is no other center available. I mean take a look. Do you see anyone else out there with size who is a viable option?
3) He's actually quite skilled. If you've seen him in a pick and roll situation, you wonder why he hasn't had any success offensively in the NBA. I could actually see him being relatively effective in a 2-man game with DLo or J-Mac. And he's also a surprisingly good passer.
There may be a couple other teams out there that may be interested in him for backup size, but nobody needs him as much as the Wolves do. It has to happen.
(hard to believe Rosas left this roster in such bad shape that some of us are pining for Harry Giles, but that's the reality right now)
Marquese Chriss?
Just signed with Portland, I believe.
Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:18 pm
by Sundog
Chriss was waived by the Blazers earlier today. I don't know anything about his game, or Harry Giles for that matter.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.com/amp/blazers/news/2021/10/16/trail-blazers-waive-three-players
Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:02 pm
by Lipoli390
Marquees Chriss offers nothing worthwhile. Harry Giles would be a nice signing for the Wolves. But if Jon K is right, and he usually is, the Wolves won't sign either one or anyone else.
It seems idiotic to me for the Wolves to let guys like Hartenstein and now Giles go by simply because signing him would put the Wolves about $700K over the luxury tax threshold. First of all, it was bad cap management that put the Wolves in this situation to begin with - i.e., a lottery team within an open roster spot but unable to sign a minimum salary player without exceeding the luxury tax by less than a millions dollars. How did that happen? Did Rosas leave the brilliant Gupta out of the loop all along or is MIT overrated.
Seriously, regardless of how the Wolves got to this point, they shouldn't let that $700K stop them from signing Giles. As Cam has pointed out, the Wolves can always do a deal of some kind by the trade deadline to get below the threshold. They could trade any of their role players for a role player who makes $700K less. If that required including a future 2nd-round pick than so be it.
Perhaps the Wolves can swap Beasley and a future pick for Myles Turner or Carter Jr. But watching the Wolves struggle from behind the arc in preseason reminded me of how valuable Beasley is to this team. I just don't see a viable trade that can land add a quality big to the Wolves roster. Nevertheless, the Wolves absolutely have to add size to the roster and they have an open roster spot to use for that purpose. Signing Giles or Biyambo would help and would appear to be doable. Unfortunately, this Wolves front office doesn't appear interested.