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[thedoper]

"According to the release, Blake admitted to investigators that he did have a knife at the time and a knife was recovered from the driver's side floorboard of his vehicle. No other weapons were found, the report said."

NBC Chicago

Yes he told them he had a knife in the car.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.jsonline.com/amp/5639429002

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

"According to the release, Blake admitted to investigators that he did have a knife at the time and a knife was recovered from the driver's side floorboard of his vehicle. No other weapons were found, the report said."

NBC Chicago

Yes he told them he had a knife in the car.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.jsonline.com/amp/5639429002

Witnesses at the scene claim they heard officers verbally command him to "drop the knife." That would mean he had a knife prior to being shot. But if that's the conclusion you come to, then that's okay. It does, however, remove any question to me about whether or not he was armed at the time of his shooting.

[Coolbreeze44]

Simple question: Do you believe that systemic racism exists in the USA In some way shape or form? This isn't a trap question just a simple yes or no is fine.

Yes, but I don't think it justifies burning cities to the ground.

[thedoper]

"According to the release, Blake admitted to investigators that he did have a knife at the time and a knife was recovered from the driver's side floorboard of his vehicle. No other weapons were found, the report said."

NBC Chicago

Yes he told them he had a knife in the car.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.jsonline.com/amp/5639429002

Witnesses at the scene claim they heard officers verbally command him to "drop the knife." That would mean he had a knife prior to being shot. But if that's the conclusion you come to, then that's okay. It does, however, remove any question to me about whether or not he was armed at the time of his shooting.

No. I am repeating what DOJ actually said and correcting your account that claimed the DOJ said he was armed. The DOJ did not say that he was armed at all. You written account also implied that video evidence showed officers telling him to drop the knife. Now you are saying it was witnesses. The DoJ didnt give any account of this. Maybe rather than giving your accounts you should just link to sources.

[D-Mac [enjin:19736340]]

You ask what I think is nonsense. Well, look around. There are millions of uneducated (in that they haven't asked enough why's) people from all sorts of backgrounds protesting and rioting over a false narrative. The idea that blacks, especially unarmed blacks, are being unjustly murdered by law enforcement is lunacy. The numbers don't support it. In reality -- a place where liberal Democrats don't often spend much of their time -- a greater number of whites are killed by police annually, which is absurd considering blacks statistically make up roughly 60-percent of all violent crimes. You'd think that since whites are being killed more often that they'd be committing more violent crime, but that's not the case. Nobody wants you to know that as it doesn't play into the Black Lives Matter movement where they portray black people to be helpless and dependent victims of the law.

Now, we can look at specific instances where the American people have been lied to by mainstream media. George Floyd was viciously murdered by police offers in Minneapolis. He couldn't breathe for eight minutes. He was a God-fearing man who was changing his life for the better... Or was he? Further research would lead most rational people to believe that he was incredibly high and absolutely resisting arrest. Further research would show that Floyd's autopsy showed that he had a lethal dose of fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system and that his death was not caused by asphyxiation. The body camera footage of officers on the scene show that Floyd -- while resisting arrest -- was complaining about everything from head to toe to include his lack of breathing... long before an officer ever had his knee placed on his neck. Floyd stated that he could not breathe, that he was claustrophobic, that he was thirsty, that his knees hurt, that his back hurt. Floyd begged and pleaded for these officers to lay him on the ground where he was detained and eventually died. In my non-medical opinion, he died of a drug overdose. Derek Chauvin will be disciplined for how he handled the situation, but I do not think he murdered Floyd that day.

And now we have Jacob Blake. The media wants you to know that he's a father of six. They want you to know that he was mediating an altercation between two women. They want you to know that he was shot seven times in the back for no apparent reason. What they don't want you to find out is that Blake has a blatant criminal history. That Blake is a sexual offender and domestic abuser on multiple charges. That Blake had a warrant for his arrest. That Blake has a history of violence and the police dating back to 2015 where he grappled with police after pointing his firearm at a man in a bar. The Wisconsin DOJ confirmed this evening that Blake was in fact armed with a knife on the scene of his shooting. So, we know the history. We know that he was armed. Well, did the police take progressive measures in order to subdue Blake? Video evidence confirms that officers gave verbal commands and attempted to take him down to the ground. They were unsuccessful. They told him to "drop the knife" to which he did not comply. They used a stun gun as the next means of force, but was unsuccessful. Blake, still carrying his knife, promptly walked to the driver side of his SUV and reached inside. It's at that point where lethal force is authorized and the officer fired his weapon. You have a suspect with a violent history who is resisting arrest and various means of force reaching into his vehicle for what I'm sure they thought would be another weapon. Those officers have families to return to. They have lives to protect including their own. I can't understand what others do not understand about this. How can people simply deduce this as a racially-motivated killing of the innocent. It's mind-boggling.

So, yes, to me and I'm sure many others this entire protest and movement is nonsense. The facts and details are open to the public. It's up to each individual to not only find them on their own but to think for themselves. I'm not seeing that happen in 2020. I'm seeing sheep be led astray by the media. I'm seeing a lack of accountability and responsibility in various forms. There are more lives being destroyed as a response to these incidents than there are lives being taken from law enforcement. Where does this end? How does this end? I simply don't know.

If you happened to read this long of a post, then I hope you either found yourself nodding along because you knew the information already and agree or you are motivated to go make some conclusions of your own. Or you can make a rebuttal. But do not call me a racist as you have no basis for such a claim. I see that word being thrown around every day on social media and it is losing its value.

Yep, agree with everything said here. It blows my mind that people can argue against the things you're saying here. Good riddance guys, sorry to say a lot of fans don't really care that you're quitting. I might still watch games in the future sometimes, but never again will I pay a dime for tickets or anything else besides what I can watch with my cable package. Hope you guys saved your money, because is on its way to be over.

[Monster]

Simple question: Do you believe that systemic racism exists in the USA In some way shape or form? This isn't a trap question just a simple yes or no is fine.

Yes, but I don't think it justifies burning cities to the ground.

Thanks for the response Cool. So we have 1 yes that systemic racism exists. Curious what others perspectives are to my simple question.

[SameOldNudityDrew]

I find it hard to understand how anyone can be more upset at people protesting against police killing black people disproportionately than at the police for actually doing it.

Define disproportionately?

Fair question. You can cut the numbers in various ways, but most of the studies I've seen suggest that police kill black people are around 3 times the rate of whites based on the population.

Here's a study that pegs the number at 2.8.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/

In the aftermath of the Floyd killing, research into police statistics in Minnesota suggested police use force against black people at 7 times the rate that they do against whites. This is not just killing but other uses of force.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/06/03/minneapolis-police-are-7-times-more-likely-to-use-force-against-black-people/#2de8cbb61321

Here's a full database of the numbers of fatal police encounters in Minnesota.
https://www.startribune.com/fatal-police-encounters-since-2000/502088871/

There are a lot of different ways to look at it and a lot of other studies out there, but the stats suggest it's pretty clear that police are significantly more likely to use violence against and kill black people than white people.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

"According to the release, Blake admitted to investigators that he did have a knife at the time and a knife was recovered from the driver's side floorboard of his vehicle. No other weapons were found, the report said."

NBC Chicago

Yes he told them he had a knife in the car.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.jsonline.com/amp/5639429002

Witnesses at the scene claim they heard officers verbally command him to "drop the knife." That would mean he had a knife prior to being shot. But if that's the conclusion you come to, then that's okay. It does, however, remove any question to me about whether or not he was armed at the time of his shooting.

I didn't realize having a knife warranted shooting someone 7 times in the back. Do you tend to get stabbed by people who's back is turned to you? "While holding onto Blake's shirt, Officer Rusten Sheskey fired his service weapon into Blake's back seven times." 7 shots. That's attempted murder, not trying to subdue the suspect for arrest. There's no excuse for unloading your clip into someone at point blank range. Their job is to arrest the man and they should be able to accomplish that task without shooting him 7 times in the back. That's a low fucking bar to expect them to do better.

[thedoper]

"According to the release, Blake admitted to investigators that he did have a knife at the time and a knife was recovered from the driver's side floorboard of his vehicle. No other weapons were found, the report said."

NBC Chicago

Yes he told them he had a knife in the car.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.jsonline.com/amp/5639429002

Witnesses at the scene claim they heard officers verbally command him to "drop the knife." That would mean he had a knife prior to being shot. But if that's the conclusion you come to, then that's okay. It does, however, remove any question to me about whether or not he was armed at the time of his shooting.

I didn't realize having a knife warranted shooting someone 7 times in the back. Do you tend to get stabbed by people who's back is turned to you? "While holding onto Blake's shirt, Officer Rusten Sheskey fired his service weapon into Blake's back seven times." 7 shots. That's attempted murder, not trying to subdue the suspect for arrest. There's no excuse for unloading your clip into someone at point blank range. Their job is to arrest the man and they should be able to accomplish that task without shooting him 7 times in the back. That's a low fucking bar to expect them to do better.

Add that to there is zero evidence that the Wisconsin DOJ has presented that he was holding the knife that he admitted to officers that he had.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

"According to the release, Blake admitted to investigators that he did have a knife at the time and a knife was recovered from the driver's side floorboard of his vehicle. No other weapons were found, the report said."

NBC Chicago

Yes he told them he had a knife in the car.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.jsonline.com/amp/5639429002

Witnesses at the scene claim they heard officers verbally command him to "drop the knife." That would mean he had a knife prior to being shot. But if that's the conclusion you come to, then that's okay. It does, however, remove any question to me about whether or not he was armed at the time of his shooting.

No. I am repeating what DOJ actually said and correcting your account that claimed the DOJ said he was armed. The DOJ did not say that he was armed at all. You written account also implied that video evidence showed officers telling him to drop the knife. Now you are saying it was witnesses. The DoJ didnt give any account of this. Maybe rather than giving your accounts you should just link to sources.

Maybe you should rethink your tone before you overstep. You're clearly passionate about this, but watch yourself.

The DOJ stated: "During the investigation following the initial incident, Mr. Blake admitted that he had a knife in his possession. DCI agents recovered a knife from the driver's side floorboard of Mr. Blake's vehicle. A search of the vehicle located no additional weapons."

Being armed means to be equipped with or carrying a weapon. Blake told them he had a knife in his possession, not "in the car" as you wrongly stated. I guess you think he just stores his knife on the floorboard of his driver side for convenience. Or more likely the knife fell out of his hand after he was shot. But if this is the hill you want to stand on, so be it.

And I never said there was video evidence showing officers telling him to "drop the knife." You came to that implication on your own. But yes, to clarify, that detail comes from witnesses at the scene.