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Re: Timberwolves Roster

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:14 pm
by BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
BloopOracle wrote:
Camden wrote:Utah 2017-18:

- Rubio on, Mitchell on: +8.9 points per 100 possessions | 93rd percentile

- Rubio off, Mitchell on: +4.2 points per 100 possessions | 79th percentile


Utah 2018-19:

- Rubio on, Mitchell on: +8.2 points per 100 possessions | 92nd percentile

- Rubio off, Mitchell on: +6.0 points per 100 possessions | 86th percentile


Phoenix 2019-20:

- Rubio on, Booker on: +6.3 points per 100 possessions | 86th percentile

- Rubio off, Booker on: -6.3 points per 100 possessions | 21st percentile



Ricky is only 30, he is going to morph into what jason kidd did the 2nd half of his career


Possibly. And he won't be asked to come in during a close game to hit 3s to finish so his role here might be better than before. Still don't love the move but I can see the appeal by Rosas.

Re: Timberwolves Roster

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:15 pm
by Lipoli390
With Beasley and one more free agent at the full MLE of $9.6M, the Wolves roster will be full at 15. By my calculation the total payroll will be $132.43M. That's barely below the luxury tax threshold of $132.62M. So barring a trade, then Wolves can't sign anyone else, including H-Gomez or JMac without exceeding the luxury tax threshold and becoming a repeat offender.

The Wolves are in a pickle and every other team knows it. So I would guess that to clear any additional salary space for JMac or H-Gomez, they'll have to move Spellman, Layman and/or Evans. And to do that, they'll probably have to attach at least a future 2nd round pick. Note that they don't have a first or second round pick next season because they dealt both picks to the Warriors for DLO. It would be really horrible if they trade Okogie or Culver simply to clear cap space. I'm just now sure what Rosas and his guys are doing.

Re: Timberwolves Roster

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:21 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
lipoli390 wrote:With Beasley and one more free agent at the full MLE of $9.6M, the Wolves roster will be full at 15. By my calculation the total payroll will be $132.43M. That's barely below the luxury tax threshold of $132.62M. So barring a trade, then Wolves can't sign anyone else, including H-Gomez or JMac without exceeding the luxury tax threshold and becoming a repeat offender.

The Wolves are in a pickle and every other team knows it. So I would guess that to clear any additional salary space for JMac or H-Gomez, they'll have to move Spellman, Layman and/or Evans. And to do that, they'll probably have to attach at least a future 2nd round pick. Note that they don't have a first or second round pick next season because they dealt both picks to the Warriors for DLO. It would be really horrible if they trade Okogie or Culver simply to clear cap space. I'm just not sure what Rosas and his guys are doing.


That's okay, Lip. Neither does he!

Re: Timberwolves Roster

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:22 pm
by Lipoli390
Camden wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:With Beasley and one more free agent at the full MLE of $9.6M, the Wolves roster will be full at 15. By my calculation the total payroll will be $132.43M. That's barely below the luxury tax threshold of $132.62M. So barring a trade, then Wolves can't sign anyone else, including H-Gomez or JMac without exceeding the luxury tax threshold and becoming a repeat offender.

The Wolves are in a pickle and every other team knows it. So I would guess that to clear any additional salary space for JMac or H-Gomez, they'll have to move Spellman, Layman and/or Evans. And to do that, they'll probably have to attach at least a future 2nd round pick. Note that they don't have a first or second round pick next season because they dealt both picks to the Warriors for DLO. It would be really horrible if they trade Okogie or Culver simply to clear cap space. I'm just not sure what Rosas and his guys are doing.


That's okay, Lip. Neither does he!


Lo

Re: Timberwolves Roster

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:25 pm
by Monster
lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:With Beasley and one more free agent at the full MLE of $9.6M, the Wolves roster will be full at 15. By my calculation the total payroll will be $132.43M. That's barely below the luxury tax threshold of $132.62M. So barring a trade, then Wolves can't sign anyone else, including H-Gomez or JMac without exceeding the luxury tax threshold and becoming a repeat offender.

The Wolves are in a pickle and every other team knows it. So I would guess that to clear any additional salary space for JMac or H-Gomez, they'll have to move Spellman, Layman and/or Evans. And to do that, they'll probably have to attach at least a future 2nd round pick. Note that they don't have a first or second round pick next season because they dealt both picks to the Warriors for DLO. It would be really horrible if they trade Okogie or Culver simply to clear cap space. I'm just not sure what Rosas and his guys are doing.


That's okay, Lip. Neither does he!


Lo


I still think Spellman has positive value so they could save some money to...apparently sign Juancho to probably a lot more money than I would pay him and I'm like pretty much his biggest fan on this board...which isn't saying a whole lot. Lol

Re: Timberwolves Roster

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:16 pm
by Lipoli390
monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:With Beasley and one more free agent at the full MLE of $9.6M, the Wolves roster will be full at 15. By my calculation the total payroll will be $132.43M. That's barely below the luxury tax threshold of $132.62M. So barring a trade, then Wolves can't sign anyone else, including H-Gomez or JMac without exceeding the luxury tax threshold and becoming a repeat offender.

The Wolves are in a pickle and every other team knows it. So I would guess that to clear any additional salary space for JMac or H-Gomez, they'll have to move Spellman, Layman and/or Evans. And to do that, they'll probably have to attach at least a future 2nd round pick. Note that they don't have a first or second round pick next season because they dealt both picks to the Warriors for DLO. It would be really horrible if they trade Okogie or Culver simply to clear cap space. I'm just not sure what Rosas and his guys are doing.


That's okay, Lip. Neither does he!


Lo


I still think Spellman has positive value so they could save some money to...apparently sign Juancho to probably a lot more money than I would pay him and I'm like pretty much his biggest fan on this board...which isn't saying a whole lot. Lol


Lol. Yes you are. :) Seriously, I agree that Spellman has positive value. If it were up to me, I'd keep Spellman and would not seek to re-sign Juancho.

Re: Timberwolves Roster

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:23 pm
by mjs34
What the hell happened??? I woke up and thought I was hung over, then realized that Rosas must have been drunk during draft night. Now I am thinking he should be drug tested!

It looks like my 5 year old nephew put this team together. Why have we drafted 3 straight SG's when we need bigs?

Do we have interest in defense or have they switched to make it / take it this season.

Re: Timberwolves Roster

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:42 am
by Lipoli390
sjm34 wrote:What the hell happened??? I woke up and thought I was hung over, then realized that Rosas must have been drunk during draft night. Now I am thinking he should be drug tested!

It looks like my 5 year old nephew put this team together. Why have we drafted 3 straight SG's when we need bigs?

Do we have interest in defense or have they switched to make it / take it this season.


I don't know your 5 year old nephew, but i suspect he would have done a much better job than Rosas.

Re: Timberwolves Roster

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:53 am
by WildWolf2813
sjm34 wrote:What the hell happened??? I woke up and thought I was hung over, then realized that Rosas must have been drunk during draft night. Now I am thinking he should be drug tested!

It looks like my 5 year old nephew put this team together. Why have we drafted 3 straight SG's when we need bigs?

Do we have interest in defense or have they switched to make it / take it this season.

This franchise answered that question a long time ago. They've given up on the team being anything worth a damn on defense. It went from hoping they can have a top half defensive team to hoping their NET rating is high.

They've also told the fanbase a while ago that they don't necessarily want another big. It's one guy at point, 3 wings and a big. They haven't hid their intentions with the roster. I think it's a bad idea but this is what Rosas and co. have planned from the beginning. Everything banks on whether this team can be the offensive force Rosas thinks they'll be. If not, they'll give up 140+ points in every loss. Face it guys. You're rooting for Rockets North.

Re: Timberwolves Roster

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:29 am
by TheFuture
WildWolf2813 wrote:
sjm34 wrote:What the hell happened??? I woke up and thought I was hung over, then realized that Rosas must have been drunk during draft night. Now I am thinking he should be drug tested!

It looks like my 5 year old nephew put this team together. Why have we drafted 3 straight SG's when we need bigs?

Do we have interest in defense or have they switched to make it / take it this season.

This franchise answered that question a long time ago. They've given up on the team being anything worth a damn on defense. It went from hoping they can have a top half defensive team to hoping their NET rating is high.

They've also told the fanbase a while ago that they don't necessarily want another big. It's one guy at point, 3 wings and a big. They haven't hid their intentions with the roster. I think it's a bad idea but this is what Rosas and co. have planned from the beginning. Everything banks on whether this team can be the offensive force Rosas thinks they'll be. If not, they'll give up 140+ points in every loss. Face it guys. You're rooting for Rockets North.


Yup, and one that doesn't have a top 5 player.