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Re: DLO

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:46 pm
by thedoper
We'd have to attach picks to moving either Gorgui or Wiggins. Wouldn't prioritizing moving Gorgui make more sense since there is little chance of him gaining any value relative to his salary?

Re: DLO

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:36 pm
by crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]
Surprised so many are all in on giving dlo 4/117.2 plus all the assets we would need to clear that space.

It could cost any combination of future picks, okogie, Culver, or covington to get off of teague/dieng or wiggys contracts for pure cap space.

Re: DLO

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:33 am
by TheGrey08
Anyone who ends up in need of a GOOD playoff caliber PG would have interest in Teague. Whether they struck out on other free agent PGs, need to fill the hole left by someone or a team simply wanting a 1 year stop gap before his deal expires. He definitely has positive value and we shouldn't have to attach anything to get rid of him. At most a team would probably ask us to take something back, which the Wolves likely wouldn't want unless it all works salary wise.

Re: DLO

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:49 am
by 60WinTim
TheGrey08 wrote:Anyone who ends up in need of a GOOD playoff caliber PG would have interest in Teague. Whether they struck out on other free agent PGs, need to fill the hole left by someone or a team simply wanting a 1 year stop gap before his deal expires. He definitely has positive value and we shouldn't have to attach anything to get rid of him. At most a team would probably ask us to take something back, which the Wolves likely wouldn't want unless it all works salary wise.


Including the Wolves... I Rosas is trying to address the long term PG needs now, but in the event it doesn't happen this off-season, having Teague as the starting PG this upcoming season is not a bad option at all. The Wolves are in a pretty good place at starting PG for the upcoming season since the worst case scenario is Teague (assuming he is healthy...)!

Re: DLO

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:23 pm
by TheGrey08
60WinTim wrote:
Including the Wolves... I Rosas is trying to address the long term PG needs now, but in the event it doesn't happen this off-season, having Teague as the starting PG this upcoming season is not a bad option at all. The Wolves are in a pretty good place at starting PG for the upcoming season since the worst case scenario is Teague (assuming he is healthy...)!

Right exactly. They could be in far worse shape and right now they at least have some options.

Re: DLO

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:50 pm
by Monster
It's interesting that Jon K said Indiana seems to be looking at Rubio and that was also said on Zach Lowe's podcast as well. It sounds like that's the assumed signing which is pretty interesting. That would take out another landing spot for DLO. Utah is already out of the picture.

Re: DLO

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:25 pm
by crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]
monsterpile wrote:It's interesting that Jon K said Indiana seems to be looking at Rubio and that was also said on Zach Lowe's podcast as well. It sounds like that's the assumed signing which is pretty interesting. That would take out another landing spot for DLO. Utah is already out of the picture.


So your saying every smart organization is staying away from dlo except us and the pelinka led Lakers?

Re: DLO

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:47 pm
by Lipoli390
crazy-canuck wrote:
monsterpile wrote:It's interesting that Jon K said Indiana seems to be looking at Rubio and that was also said on Zach Lowe's podcast as well. It sounds like that's the assumed signing which is pretty interesting. That would take out another landing spot for DLO. Utah is already out of the picture.


So your saying every smart organization is staying away from dlo except us and the pelinka led Lakers?


Lol. You might be on to something. I think the Knicks are interested in DLo -- which just reinforces your point. :) As I've said, I'm torn on whether to pursue DLo. There are legitimate concerns surrounding him. Two key questions are (1) how big a contract would we have to give him, and (2) what assets would we have to give up to clear space or execute a 3-way deal to get him. A max deal would be hard enough to swallow. Giving up valuable young players like Okogie or a future 1st round pick would make it even tougher. I'm on record saying I'd pursue DLo. But I'm not among those who are enthusiastic about the idea.

Re: DLO

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:00 pm
by Monster
lipoli390 wrote:
crazy-canuck wrote:
monsterpile wrote:It's interesting that Jon K said Indiana seems to be looking at Rubio and that was also said on Zach Lowe's podcast as well. It sounds like that's the assumed signing which is pretty interesting. That would take out another landing spot for DLO. Utah is already out of the picture.


So your saying every smart organization is staying away from dlo except us and the pelinka led Lakers?


Lol. You might be on to something. I think the Knicks are interested in DLo -- which just reinforces your point. :) As I've said, I'm torn on whether to pursue DLo. There are legitimate concerns surrounding him. Two key questions are (1) how big a contract would we have to give him, and (2) what assets would we have to give up to clear space or execute a 3-way deal to get him. A max deal would be hard enough to swallow. Giving up valuable young players like Okogie or a future 1st round pick would make it even tougher. I'm on record saying I'd pursue DLo. But I'm not among those who are enthusiastic about the idea.


Utah Traded for Conley. Nobody is gonna argue that when healthy he is Babette replayed especially for Utah who is looking to be a legit contender.

Pacers I'd guess they may have decided Rubio is a worthwhile guy and probably will cost around half as much as Russell. Dipo and Russell Long term could either be dynamic or maybe get in each other's way. The Pacers also have to decide how much they are gonna pay other guys. They may prioritize someone else instead of paying Russell. The Pacers have done well in the past getting some guys and getting more out of them either having them play better for them or the sum of the parts work well together. I can see Rubio being part of the later. They might also get him cheaper if he is gonna be the starter and key role. It's possible no other team really offers that to him.

A younger PG that hasn't been discussed may or may not be available is Terry Rozier. Does Boston bring him back and install him as their starting PG? Would that eliminate another possible Russell spot? What kind of market will there be for Rozier? What value does he have around the league? Do teams still think he has potential to be an above average starting PG? This offseason keeps getting more interesting the more you dig into it. July is coming soon and it's gonna be wild.

Re: DLO

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:16 pm
by crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]
monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
crazy-canuck wrote:
monsterpile wrote:It's interesting that Jon K said Indiana seems to be looking at Rubio and that was also said on Zach Lowe's podcast as well. It sounds like that's the assumed signing which is pretty interesting. That would take out another landing spot for DLO. Utah is already out of the picture.


So your saying every smart organization is staying away from dlo except us and the pelinka led Lakers?


Lol. You might be on to something. I think the Knicks are interested in DLo -- which just reinforces your point. :) As I've said, I'm torn on whether to pursue DLo. There are legitimate concerns surrounding him. Two key questions are (1) how big a contract would we have to give him, and (2) what assets would we have to give up to clear space or execute a 3-way deal to get him. A max deal would be hard enough to swallow. Giving up valuable young players like Okogie or a future 1st round pick would make it even tougher. I'm on record saying I'd pursue DLo. But I'm not among those who are enthusiastic about the idea.


Utah Traded for Conley. Nobody is gonna argue that when healthy he is Babette replayed especially for Utah who is looking to be a legit contender.

Pacers I'd guess they may have decided Rubio is a worthwhile guy and probably will cost around half as much as Russell. Dipo and Russell Long term could either be dynamic or maybe get in each other's way. The Pacers also have to decide how much they are gonna pay other guys. They may prioritize someone else instead of paying Russell. The Pacers have done well in the past getting some guys and getting more out of them either having them play better for them or the sum of the parts work well together. I can see Rubio being part of the later. They might also get him cheaper if he is gonna be the starter and key role. It's possible no other team really offers that to him.

A younger PG that hasn't been discussed may or may not be available is Terry Rozier. Does Boston bring him back and install him as their starting PG? Would that eliminate another possible Russell spot? What kind of market will there be for Rozier? What value does he have around the league? Do teams still think he has potential to be an above average starting PG? This offseason keeps getting more interesting the more you dig into it. July is coming soon and it's gonna be wild.



Boston is in a quandary of sorts. That team has played with a scoring lead guard since rondo left. IT, Irving, etc... All reports are that there is bad blood between rozier and the Celtics, but I think $$ fixes that. If the Celtics arent in the hunt for dlo, he might come cheaper than expected without a market. Us and the Lakers, and thats assuming Rosas even has an interest in Dlo.

As for Rozier, Id rather convert Okogie into a Marcus Smart type to be our lead guard.