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khans2k5 wrote:

BloopOracle wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BloopOracle wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BloopOracle wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BloopOracle wrote:We should go after Aldrige and Lowry so we can boast the the most potent All-NBA choke artist squad in the league

It definitely makes sense the message board for a team who hasn't made the playoffs for over a decade criticizes playoff performances of other players.

Do you want me to lie to you? We've all had a chance to be neutral fans during the NBA Playoffs for over a decade like you alluded to, I think we can call a choke artist when we see one.

It's more the alluding to it being a bad thing if we got Lowry and LA when in reality that would make us a power house team to deal with.

In the regular season yes but they falter under the bright lights, Lowry especially. We are in too good of a position to go after 30 year olds with a history of wilting under pressure.

The 6th worst team in the league is in too good a spot to add two all-stars who would significantly move the needle. I'm just baffled by that notion. Trying to plan the championship parade before we even make the playoffs. SMH. By the way we have this ice blooded 22 year old named Andrew Wiggins who steps up in those situations and just needs a little more help to put us over the top.

Yes we are in too good of spot, I"m baffled that you want to give up all our cap space AND our pick for a choke artist. What needle does that move, what did he move for the Spurs? Wiggins has never even been to the playoffs he hasn't even had a chance to step up yet

Big O wrote:We're in a great position to pick up another Dunn like player and break 35 wins next year... Give me some vets!

than use the cap space why throw away the pick as well?

He replaced Tim Duncan well enough to keep them as the second best team in the league and still best defensive team in the league. If they don't have him this year the needle moves back. And to think adding him wouldn't move our needle at all is just insanity. You honestly believe adding Lamarcus Aldridge to this team would keep us in the lottery and not get us to the playoffs?

no you're right he would move the needle enough to make the playoffs, but there are other ways to do that without sacrificing all of our cap and our pick for a 31 year old guy who only plays well in the regular season. All these shrewd moves the past few seasons to keep cap flexibility along with a high pick in a stacked draft, do we really want to blow all that just for Lamarcus? I'm sorry I just think it's a terrible idea

TheFuture wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BloopOracle wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

TheFuture wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BloopOracle wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BloopOracle wrote:We should go after Aldrige and Lowry so we can boast the the most potent All-NBA choke artist squad in the league

It definitely makes sense the message board for a team who hasn't made the playoffs for over a decade criticizes playoff performances of other players.

Do you want me to lie to you? We've all had a chance to be neutral fans during the NBA Playoffs for over a decade like you alluded to, I think we can call a choke artist when we see one.

It's more the alluding to it being a bad thing if we got Lowry and LA when in reality that would make us a power house team to deal with.

Except getting both will never happen. Getting LA puts us in the treadmill team area. Making the playoffs would definitely be a nice change, but I just don't agree with making a decision to making the playoffs is enough when LA will play spot minutes for 20+. Mil when it comes time to actually win in the playoffs. He doesn't put us into serious contention,

Stupid idea and stupid trade.

Nobody puts us in serious contention so why bother even playing the fucking game at this point? Just pack it up and keep playing the lottery until Lebron and the Warriors are done and then end the 20 year playoff drought at that time. Championship or bust is a really dumb attitude to have when you have to beat the greatest team or 2nd greatest player of all time to do it.

It's more of a championship contender mentality or bust, I'd rather not be Portland and have a 6 seed be our ceiling.

If you think Towns/Wiggins/Lavine/LA is a 6 seed ceiling then we already will never be a contender based on your expectations. That's an indictment on our existing 3 players if they can't pair with an all-star and do better than a 6 seed. The 6 seed this year was the OKC Westbrook's. The Houston Harden's won 55 games with one all-star and got the 3 seed. You really have to think lowly of Towns/Wiggins/Lavine if you think they can't do better than that after adding an all-star level player like LA.

Fuck, he will be 32 man and our whole core 3 is under 22. He isn't a team changer any longer. I'd love to male the playoffs. But you're a damn idiot if your only goal Is to make the playoffs (unless youre the owner or we are talking football where anyone has a chance in one game). That's all he does for us, and he handcuffs any future moves to become a contender. Is it that difficult to see?

There may not be a future is this core doesn't make the PO's soon!

khans2k5 wrote:

TheFuture wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BloopOracle wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BloopOracle wrote:We should go after Aldrige and Lowry so we can boast the the most potent All-NBA choke artist squad in the league

It definitely makes sense the message board for a team who hasn't made the playoffs for over a decade criticizes playoff performances of other players.

Do you want me to lie to you? We've all had a chance to be neutral fans during the NBA Playoffs for over a decade like you alluded to, I think we can call a choke artist when we see one.

It's more the alluding to it being a bad thing if we got Lowry and LA when in reality that would make us a power house team to deal with.

Except getting both will never happen. Getting LA puts us in the treadmill team area. Making the playoffs would definitely be a nice change, but I just don't agree with making a decision to making the playoffs is enough when LA will play spot minutes for 20+. Mil when it comes time to actually win in the playoffs. He doesn't put us into serious contention,

Stupid idea and stupid trade.

Nobody puts us in serious contention so why bother even playing the fucking game at this point? Just pack it up and keep playing the lottery until Lebron and the Warriors are done and then end the 20 year playoff drought at that time. Championship or bust is a really dumb attitude to have when you have to beat the greatest team or 2nd greatest player of all time to do it.

LA doesn't even convince anybody that we will do better than the 6th-8th seed in the West... it's a terrible idea that won't ever happen. Consider this my last post on this subject,

TheFuture wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BloopOracle wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

TheFuture wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BloopOracle wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BloopOracle wrote:We should go after Aldrige and Lowry so we can boast the the most potent All-NBA choke artist squad in the league

It definitely makes sense the message board for a team who hasn't made the playoffs for over a decade criticizes playoff performances of other players.

Do you want me to lie to you? We've all had a chance to be neutral fans during the NBA Playoffs for over a decade like you alluded to, I think we can call a choke artist when we see one.

It's more the alluding to it being a bad thing if we got Lowry and LA when in reality that would make us a power house team to deal with.

Except getting both will never happen. Getting LA puts us in the treadmill team area. Making the playoffs would definitely be a nice change, but I just don't agree with making a decision to making the playoffs is enough when LA will play spot minutes for 20+. Mil when it comes time to actually win in the playoffs. He doesn't put us into serious contention,

Stupid idea and stupid trade.

Nobody puts us in serious contention so why bother even playing the fucking game at this point? Just pack it up and keep playing the lottery until Lebron and the Warriors are done and then end the 20 year playoff drought at that time. Championship or bust is a really dumb attitude to have when you have to beat the greatest team or 2nd greatest player of all time to do it.

It's more of a championship contender mentality or bust, I'd rather not be Portland and have a 6 seed be our ceiling.

If you think Towns/Wiggins/Lavine/LA is a 6 seed ceiling then we already will never be a contender based on your expectations. That's an indictment on our existing 3 players if they can't pair with an all-star and do better than a 6 seed. The 6 seed this year was the OKC Westbrook's. The Houston Harden's won 55 games with one all-star and got the 3 seed. You really have to think lowly of Towns/Wiggins/Lavine if you think they can't do better than that after adding an all-star level player like LA.

Fuck, he will be 32 man and our whole core 3 is under 22. He isn't a team changer any longer. I'd love to male the playoffs. But you're a damn idiot if your only goal Is to make the playoffs (unless youre the owner or we are talking football where anyone has a chance in one game). That's all he does for us, and he handcuffs any future moves to become a contender. Is it that difficult to see?

Big men age better. You act like he's useless already. He's younger than Lebron for christs sake. As far as handcuffing future moves, <b>there is no cap space after next off-season</b>. There are already no future moves via free agency unless you get rid of one of the big 3. Why is that so difficult for people to see? You guys are saving cap space that's just going to get used up on our own players. How does that make us a contender to just pay the same guys that can't make the playoffs yet? How are you building this team for the next decade when we are potentially looking at 3 max deals for our big 3 and you can only sign those other young pieces from outside the organization for 4 years? Jesus the luxury tax would be insane to keep that pipe dream of a team around and what new owner is footing that bill? You can't handcuff something for the next decade that will be non-existent after next summer.

TheFuture wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

TheFuture wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BloopOracle wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BloopOracle wrote:We should go after Aldrige and Lowry so we can boast the the most potent All-NBA choke artist squad in the league

It definitely makes sense the message board for a team who hasn't made the playoffs for over a decade criticizes playoff performances of other players.

Do you want me to lie to you? We've all had a chance to be neutral fans during the NBA Playoffs for over a decade like you alluded to, I think we can call a choke artist when we see one.

It's more the alluding to it being a bad thing if we got Lowry and LA when in reality that would make us a power house team to deal with.

Except getting both will never happen. Getting LA puts us in the treadmill team area. Making the playoffs would definitely be a nice change, but I just don't agree with making a decision to making the playoffs is enough when LA will play spot minutes for 20+. Mil when it comes time to actually win in the playoffs. He doesn't put us into serious contention,

Stupid idea and stupid trade.

Nobody puts us in serious contention so why bother even playing the fucking game at this point? Just pack it up and keep playing the lottery until Lebron and the Warriors are done and then end the 20 year playoff drought at that time. Championship or bust is a really dumb attitude to have when you have to beat the greatest team or 2nd greatest player of all time to do it.

LA doesn't even convince anybody that we will do better than the 6th-8th seed in the West... it's a terrible idea that won't ever happen. Consider this my last post on this subject,

How will we ever be contenders with this core then if they can't do better than a 6 seed with 2 all-stars, a borderline all-star and a potential all-star? Do you get that stupid logic? If adding an all-star only gets us to 6-8 how the hell do we ever become contenders without adding even an all-star to this team?

Who said anything about saving cap space? I just don't want to waste it on a choke artist when there are so many other better options this offseason. You talk about how we are going to be handcuffed in the future either way with the salary cap, why the hell do you think we want to avoid a LA trade and keep our high first round pick in the first place?

BloopOracle wrote:Who said anything about saving cap space? I just don't want to waste it on a choke artist when there are so many other better options this offseason. You talk about how we are going to be handcuffed in the future either way with the salary cap, why the hell do you think we want to avoid a LA trade and keep our high first round pick in the first place?

Because you enjoy the lottery threads so much and would rather talk about what 19 year old is going to solve all our problems in X years down the road. Ya, that sounds like the way to turn all this around. It's not like we've been doing that for the last decade.

My OP was #7 for LA straight up. I have read nothing that convinces me we are better off with a 19 year old Corey Brewer (last 7th pick) than an experienced 31 year old quality player for the next couple years until the pups grow up. Let's get a taste of the playoffs and then worry about what happens down the road.

khans2k5 wrote:

BloopOracle wrote:Who said anything about saving cap space? I just don't want to waste it on a choke artist when there are so many other better options this offseason. You talk about how we are going to be handcuffed in the future either way with the salary cap, why the hell do you think we want to avoid a LA trade and keep our high first round pick in the first place?

Because you enjoy the lottery threads so much and would rather talk about what 19 year old is going to solve all our problems in X years down the road. Ya, that sounds like the way to turn all this around. It's not like we've been doing that for the last decade.

using Kahn's and Mchale's past moves against Thibs and Layden is a terrible way to approach the draft, you'll end up letting them scare you into fucking the team up again