By the way, tarik black was cit outright correct? I liked him on the rockets and didn't think he was traded. Part of the Josh smith cap room move right?
You Payne haters need to realize his play is really help us get the best possible draft position we can get.
Luckily for us two of the top rated prospects play a position we desperately need. If we can land Towns/Okafor and pair them with Wiggins and LaVine we have a very young talented trio to build with. Add a good veteran PF to plug next to our rookie big. Hire Donavan as HC who is still fairly young and highly accomplished. Our future looks bright. We just have to endure a few more horrible games.
- The vets were awful. Martin and Bud weren't even trying.
- I don't think Hamilton will be on the team next year. He's just too damn weak to hang with anyone in the paint. God, we could use almost a complete overhaul of our big man roster.
- Wiggins has become a go-to scorer. I also like the fact he was making timely passes for easy buckets. All these minutes have really paid off in setting him up nicely for next season.
- With Wiggins emergence as a legit alpha dog scorer and the potential of Bazz and LaVine as scorers, Martin's ONLY value to this team is his 3-point shooting. I'd entertain trades this summer, but we have to get something back of value. It shouldn't just be a salary dump.
- Hummel continues to look awful since coming back from injury. Disappointing.
- Brown played a nice game, but if he can't knock down wide open jumpers, it's tough to see him winning that backup PG role. It's too bad because it would be nice to see us nab a real diamond in the rough for once that can play a legit role on this team.
Camden0916 wrote:I would explore trades this off-season. Doesn't mean I'd dump him for anything.
Totally agree. He has value so there is no need to get diminished return. I think a deal of Martin for Taj Gibson and whatever moving parts need to go either way would be pretty fair for both sides. They have great PF depth. We have a ton of PFs, but no good ones.
I can't see the Bulls trading Taj straight up for Martin. But add a future first round pick and the Bulls might pull the trigger. That's how you use a future first. You don't risk a future pick on some like Payne. Payne was a mid first round pick. But like nearly all first round picks, his value dropped immediately after the season started. First round picks are like cars. Their worth substantially the moment you drive them off the lot. Payne's value drop Must have been particularly big based on the fact that the Hawks found Payne worthy of almost no playing time behind no less than 4 other PFs.
The Payne deal was especially bad given that we already owed a future first rounder from Kahn's desperate deal to get rid of Wes Johnson and clear space for Batum and Roy. Alas, we don't have the draft assets to pull off a trade for someone like Taj.
I can't believe you are serious entertaining Martin and a first for Taj and saying that's how to use a first rounder. Draft your own Taj Gibson that's how you use a first rounder.
Camden0916 wrote:I would explore trades this off-season. Doesn't mean I'd dump him for anything.
Totally agree. He has value so there is no need to get diminished return. I think a deal of Martin for Taj Gibson and whatever moving parts need to go either way would be pretty fair for both sides. They have great PF depth. We have a ton of PFs, but no good ones.
I can't see the Bulls trading Taj straight up for Martin. But add a future first round pick and the Bulls might pull the trigger. That's how you use a future first. You don't risk a future pick on some like Payne. Payne was a mid first round pick. But like nearly all first round picks, his value dropped immediately after the season started. First round picks are like cars. Their worth substantially the moment you drive them off the lot. Payne's value drop Must have been particularly big based on the fact that the Hawks found Payne worthy of almost no playing time behind no less than 4 other PFs.
The Payne deal was especially bad given that we already owed a future first rounder from Kahn's desperate deal to get rid of Wes Johnson and clear space for Batum and Roy. Alas, we don't have the draft assets to pull off a trade for someone like Taj.
I can't believe you are serious entertaining Martin and a first for Taj and saying that's how to use a first rounder. Draft your own Taj Gibson that's how you use a first rounder.
Monster -- that was just for illustrative purposes. I wouldn't do that deal for Taj. My point was you use a 1st round pick effctively in a trade by pairing it with a player in exchange for an impact veteran -- a vet young enough to play at a high level for years as the young guys develop. Taj may be that type of vet. But personally, I think he's too injury-prone and not enough of an impact guy. Reasonable minds could differ on this one.
