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I guess I think they should have the PO's as their goal, and some guys might only go down for a few weeks where a couple extra wins can make a difference. Why put together a weaker team when you are trying to win.

sjm34 wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:

sjm34 wrote:

TheSP wrote:I like the move, the playoffs are not the goal this year. Give the minutes to the young guys, bud can play the 2 and 3 so he'd be behind Wiggins/Lavine/Kmart/Bazz and even Bjelica if he plays some 3. Under no circumstances do I want this team to waste minutes this year on middle of the road players who will not be part of the team going forward.

Besides, people are suddenly expecting Bud to contribute after two years of nothing, and a short tease at the end of last year while they write of Pek and in some cases Rubio.

I wasn't expecting Bud to play a minute unless we suffered significant injuries again, which is likely. Does anyone ever wonder why our completely falls apart while others seem to move along without missing a beat when they lose guys to injury. This trade is an example why.

Wasn't Bud playing a lot last year when our season fell apart? Don't think he's going to make much of a difference if we suffer major injuries again.

He was playing without any confidence. He actually looked to gain his shooting stroke back late in the year, and he is better than having another guy Hummel who can't consistently hit the 3, and is less athletic.
I don't care about the salary cap since we aren't signing anyone this year.

It's not like Chase was a great three point shooter. At least this Rudez guy can hit them at an above average rate

Robbie is consistently a plus player when he's on the court. He's not going to hurt us if he has to play 15-20 minutes due to injuries. That's exactly the type of guy you want filling in injury holes. When injuries happen everyone else has to step up, not just the guy getting the minutes. Robbie is a great fit as a time filler who usually ends up on the plus side of the stat sheet. Bud's high's are higher, but his low's are also lower. Consistently a low plus is better than a big plus or a big minus in my opinion

CoolBreeze44 wrote:
Wasn't Bud playing a lot last year when our season fell apart? Don't think he's going to make much of a difference if we suffer major injuries again.

It's not worth arguing about. But I think the point a couple of us are trying to make is that it would sense to only make moves that improve the team. Chances are that Bud will be a better player than anyone who we pick up to replace him. At the end of the day, that makes the team slightly worse - not better. If we don't suffer any injuries at SF or SG, then it won't matter at all. But is that realistic?

I didn't see the point in doing a salary dump. If Bud wanted to play for another team, he could have opted out of his contract and became a FA. But he didn't. So too bad for him. Since he opted in, I would have kept him for depth. Bazz played well when healthy last year. But he's still a bit of a wild card (is he for real or was that a tease). I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping multiple good options in case of injury or player regression.

Its nice there are a couple people that are valuing Bud. I value Bud however this may be an opportunity to develop a guy of our own to play a rotation role like Bud. Of course what is also lost is that we acquired a guy that was #17th overall in 3 point percentage last year which is pretty significant considering that's a need. There are a couple open roster spots up for grabs right now IMO and Rudez could have a shot at one. He could also be a guy a team might make a move for he is a cheap contract with size and showed in his first year he can hit 3's. On top of that Bud is an injury prone guy he might not be healthy when or if he was needed. I am more excited to have a more open roster spot than I would be to have Bud on the team and like I said I do value Bud.

Bud isn't the difference between making the playoffs or not IMO. If the team were in bad enough shape that he got extended playing time then they're playing for lottery position once again and anything Bud gives them would be a negative.

I wish Bud all the luck in the world, but I'm just fine with him being gone.

Volans19 wrote:

sjm34 wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:

sjm34 wrote:

TheSP wrote:I like the move, the playoffs are not the goal this year. Give the minutes to the young guys, bud can play the 2 and 3 so he'd be behind Wiggins/Lavine/Kmart/Bazz and even Bjelica if he plays some 3. Under no circumstances do I want this team to waste minutes this year on middle of the road players who will not be part of the team going forward.

Besides, people are suddenly expecting Bud to contribute after two years of nothing, and a short tease at the end of last year while they write of Pek and in some cases Rubio.

I wasn't expecting Bud to play a minute unless we suffered significant injuries again, which is likely. Does anyone ever wonder why our completely falls apart while others seem to move along without missing a beat when they lose guys to injury. This trade is an example why.

Wasn't Bud playing a lot last year when our season fell apart? Don't think he's going to make much of a difference if we suffer major injuries again.

He was playing without any confidence. He actually looked to gain his shooting stroke back late in the year, and he is better than having another guy Hummel who can't consistently hit the 3, and is less athletic.
I don't care about the salary cap since we aren't signing anyone this year.

It's not like Chase was a great three point shooter. At least this Rudez guy can hit them at an above average rate

Chase for his career hits above the league average,so you are wrong there

Bud was not going to be part of the rotation. It's unclear at this point who will earn his spot on the roster. The trade makes a ton of sense on many fronts. It is very unlikely Bud would have re-signed next season, so why not use the roster spot on someone who might be around a bit longer. If Bud is truly healthy, he is a guy that wants, and perhaps expects, to get minutes. That was not going to happen barring an injury or two or three, so he wanted to be traded.

And a comment on Bud's end of season resurgence - yes, he was more productive, but that production came primarily at PF, which is not a position he can play for a team that is trying to win (remember, Flip was tanking!). So his resurgence came playing out of position. How effective would he be at his natural position of SF?

This move was totally expected, with the only exception being whether the Wolves could find a taker for Bud's salary. I'm surprised anyone was caught off guard by this move, or disappointed...

Interesting move. I'm not sure what it really accomplishes other than getting Bud to a place where he'll probably get more playing time and saving a little dough for Glen. Budinger is certainly a better all-around player than Rudez and would have been good insurance when Bazz and/or Martin get hurt (anyone doubt one or both of these guys will miss some games?).

Abe will love Rudez. He could be our James Jones! He literally does nothing other than knock down 3's. His rebounding numbers have to be some of the most anemic in the NBA....Ever!

Of course, whenever we get a 3-point shooting specialist on the Wolves, they almost always do worse than their previous stop (Troy Daniels, Martell Webster, Mike Miller, etc.).

I watched a half of a game that Damo played against Orlando and I think some people would be surprised at how decent he is. On offense all he does is stay on the perimeter sometimes settings screens but basically camping out for 3's which makes sense. He makes good quick decisions with the ball and moves it around. He isn't the best athlete on defense but works hard and moves his feet. Keep in mind he was playing minutes on a team that went like 24-15 or something to finish out the season. I don't think he is a trash throw in player. The Pacers probably could have just taken Bud's salary and not given up a player at all. He doesn't have big upside (that lack of rebounding is brutal) or anything but as a dont screw up bad, 3 point shooter he ain't too shabby. It looks as though he actually played most of his minutes at SF. He could end up being a useful guy. My guess is a team trades for him in some kind of minor deal. I think playoff teams would be interested in a smart 3 point shooter like that who is locked into a cheap deal for 2 years.