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Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:35 am
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
The Lakers have offered Talen Horton-Tucker and a future pick to Boston for Josh Richardson.

Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:36 am
by AbeVigodaLive
kekgeek1 wrote:Full trade, per sources:
Blazers: Josh Hart, Tomas Satoransky, Nickeil Walker-Alexander, Didi Louzada, 2022 protected first-round pick, two second-round picks.
Pelicans: CJ McCollum, Larry Nance, Tony Snell.




Remember when Larry Nance was such a hot commodity?

Not quite sure why he didn't quite work out in Portland... but... he's a jack-of-all-trades guy who's always been a plus player.

He's set to make $10M next year, which is very reasonable.



[Note: Going to be weird to see McCollum play anywhere but Portland after nearly a decade. Some sort of rebuild/refresh seems to be happening there... which is obviously going to bring about A LOT of Lillard talk.]

Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:01 pm
by Monster
Q-was-here wrote:
Jester1534 wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:Portland is finalizing acquiring Josh Hart, Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Tomas Satoransky and draft compensation in the CJ McCollum trade, sources said.


Ingrham and McCollum seem like a very weird pair to me.

I personally don't worry about the Pelicans because I don't think Zion will ever stay healthy and most of his game is athleticism. I know posted this before but I like the Greek freak but what happens when he can't jump on the building anymore what type of player is he? It's the same way I feel about Zion

We've already seen example of this in Blake Griffin


Russell Westbrook is another guy whose game hasn't aged well and a lot of us kind of saw that coming in his heyday. Just too reliant on sheer force of will and athleticism.

Having an elite shooting touch as your core strength (Durant, Curry, even Chris Paul esp. from mid-range) really really helps.


I think Giannis has turned into a very smart basketball player. He also has size and length on his side. He has transitioned from being a biggish dude with guard skills to being a legit big with guard skills. He will likely always have enough athletic ability to at least play at PF. He might not be a star later in his career but he will still be highly effective and I think he is a guy that will be willing to embrace a different role than being the guy.

Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:07 pm
by Monster
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:Full trade, per sources:
Blazers: Josh Hart, Tomas Satoransky, Nickeil Walker-Alexander, Didi Louzada, 2022 protected first-round pick, two second-round picks.
Pelicans: CJ McCollum, Larry Nance, Tony Snell.




Remember when Larry Nance was such a hot commodity?

Not quite sure why he didn't quite work out in Portland... but... he's a jack-of-all-trades guy who's always been a plus player.

He's set to make $10M next year, which is very reasonable.



[Note: Going to be weird to see McCollum play anywhere but Portland after nearly a decade. Some sort of rebuild/refresh seems to be happening there... which is obviously going to bring about A LOT of Lillard talk.]


I think Portland did ok in this deal. They got some younger player and saved money. Josh Hart could be a nice player for them or as an asset to move at some point. What happened to Satoransky is he injuries or what?

Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:12 pm
by Monster
Camden wrote:The Lakers have offered Talen Horton-Tucker and a future pick to Boston for Josh Richardson.


How bad is Horten-Tucker?

Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:14 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
monsterpile wrote:
Camden wrote:The Lakers have offered Talen Horton-Tucker and a future pick to Boston for Josh Richardson.


How bad is Horten-Tucker?


The idea of Talen Horton-Tucker is better than the player so far. He remains overpaid and overhyped. Still just 21-years old, though.

Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:16 pm
by Q-is-here
monsterpile wrote:
Q-was-here wrote:
Jester1534 wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:Portland is finalizing acquiring Josh Hart, Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Tomas Satoransky and draft compensation in the CJ McCollum trade, sources said.


Ingrham and McCollum seem like a very weird pair to me.

I personally don't worry about the Pelicans because I don't think Zion will ever stay healthy and most of his game is athleticism. I know posted this before but I like the Greek freak but what happens when he can't jump on the building anymore what type of player is he? It's the same way I feel about Zion

We've already seen example of this in Blake Griffin


Russell Westbrook is another guy whose game hasn't aged well and a lot of us kind of saw that coming in his heyday. Just too reliant on sheer force of will and athleticism.

Having an elite shooting touch as your core strength (Durant, Curry, even Chris Paul esp. from mid-range) really really helps.


I think Giannis has turned into a very smart basketball player. He also has size and length on his side. He has transitioned from being a biggish dude with guard skills to being a legit big with guard skills. He will likely always have enough athletic ability to at least play at PF. He might not be a star later in his career but he will still be highly effective and I think he is a guy that will be willing to embrace a different role than being the guy.


I think you are probably right Monster. He has the advantage of being super long and skilled as a ball-handler, so he can probably play the point-4 or point-5 type role effectively for many years to come.

Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:33 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
Woj: The Pacers are trading Domas Sabonis, Jeremy Lamb and Justin Holiday to Sacramento for Tyrese Hailburton, Buddy Hield and Tristan Thompson, sources tell ESPN


WOW. That was completely unexpected.

I think the Kings would have been better off trading De'Aaron Fox over Tyrese Haliburton, but they're getting a legitimate All-Star here. I'm shocked.

Also, I'm surprised that there isn't any draft pick compensation involved here, at least from the early reports. Wow.

Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:38 pm
by Phenom
Camden wrote:
Woj: The Pacers are trading Domas Sabonis, Jeremy Lamb and Justin Holiday to Sacramento for Tyrese Hailburton, Buddy Hield and Tristan Thompson, sources tell ESPN


WOW. That was completely unexpected.

I think the Kings would have been better off trading De'Aaron Fox over Tyrese Haliburton, but they're getting a legitimate All-Star here. I'm shocked.

Also, I'm surprised that there isn't any draft pick compensation involved here, at least from the early reports. Wow.


Great timing for our Wolves.

Re: Around the league thread 2021-2022

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:39 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
Sacramento had one player that should have been considered untouchable and it was Tyrese Haliburton. I'm stunned that they moved him. This franchise just can't get out of their own way.

I look at Haliburton how I look at LaMelo Ball and Anthony Edwards to some degree. A franchise cornerstone. You build around him. And the Kings moved him.