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Re: Wolves offseason thread
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:09 pm
by Lipoli390
crazy-canuck wrote:lipoli390 wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:Wiggs can't be in a good place right now with all this jimmy drama while mourning a loss.
What loss is that?
A friend of his died in a shooting the other day.
That's sad. I'm sure Butler tweeted his sympathy and support for Wiggins.
Re: Wolves offseason thread
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:35 pm
by Monster
lipoli390 wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:lipoli390 wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:Wiggs can't be in a good place right now with all this jimmy drama while mourning a loss.
What loss is that?
A friend of his died in a shooting the other day.
That's sad. I'm sure Butler tweeted his sympathy and support for Wiggins.
I'm sad to hear that. Where did you hear about this?
Re: Wolves offseason thread
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:36 pm
by Coolbreeze44
khans2k5 wrote:Thibs is not trading Jimmy. Let's just move on from that idea. A guy being pressured from the top to win games and get out of the first round is not trading his best player and MVP candidate for young pieces. You're basically expecting Thibs to hang himself for the perceived good of the franchise. Not happening.
I agree with you that Thibs isn't going to trade Jimmy, but it is still the right thing to do. Maybe Thibs has to go first to get this necessary step to happen.
Re: Wolves offseason thread
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:42 pm
by Coolbreeze44
Just commenting on Cam's point about the time to trade Jimmy was on draft night. That would have been preferred, But i still think there is a window to move him up until training camp. And then of course at the deadline, but I'm sure his trade value would be much less at that point.
Re: Wolves offseason thread
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:05 pm
by thedoper
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23979291/every-deal-all-30-nba-teams-make-2018-free-agency
This article is saying we still have 6.2 mil. That is 2 decent players with what players are getting paid now. We could still see a contributor coming to this team if that is the case.
Re: Wolves offseason thread
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:14 pm
by Monster
thedoper wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23979291/every-deal-all-30-nba-teams-make-2018-free-agency
This article is saying we still have 6.2 mil. That is 2 decent players with what players are getting paid now. We could still see a contributor coming to this team if that is the case.
Something doesn't add up. Ugh I'm gonna have to break down and do my own spreadsheet. Lol
Re: Wolves offseason thread
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:55 pm
by Monster
Sorry for the poor formatting but here is what i have. I took these numbers from Sportrac and Basketball Insiders. Note I have only the cap charge for Rose not his full Vet min Salary at 2.4 million that is supplemented by the league.
Player salary/cap charge
1 Wiggins $25,250,000.00
2 Butler $20,445,779.00
3 teague $19,000,000.00
4 Dieng $15,170,787.00
5 Gibson $14,000,000.00
6 Towns $7,839,435.00
7 Patton $2,667,600.00
8 Jones $2,444,053.00
9 Rose $1,512,601.00
10 Okogie $2,160,720.00
11 Tolliver $5,750,000.00
12 KBD $831,927.00
13 $1,512,601.00
14
15
Aldrich $2,056,021.00
Martin $1,360,304.00
Total $122,001,828.00
lux tax $123,733,000.00
Space under lux tax $1,731,172.00
So there is no excess wiggle room here. I put in one vet min salary spot at #13. There is a $831,927 charge until that spot is filled but we are clearly going ot add a vet min guy at some point. So the last 2 spots the Wolves will have enough money for a couple options.
1. Sign a vet min Player and have $218,571.00 in room for any other signings or transactions like giving some cap tryouts some money (I believe that does count against the cap).
2. Sign 2 rookies to spots $14 and $15 to fill out the roster completely with like $67,318.00 left.
I would guess the Wolves will sign 2 more vet min guys maybe one of them will have a fairly small guarantee in case some rookie blows them away and they want to add them to the roster and cut the vet loose.
Regardless the Wolves have space to add cheap players and stay under the cap. They have no real recourse on adding anyone for much more than that. That's fine with me. Not idea, but I think there will be worthwhile players available for the vet min. It happened last year and this year is even more tight when it comes to money.
Re: Wolves offseason thread
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:41 pm
by crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]
monsterpile wrote:lipoli390 wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:lipoli390 wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:Wiggs can't be in a good place right now with all this jimmy drama while mourning a loss.
What loss is that?
A friend of his died in a shooting the other day.
That's sad. I'm sure Butler tweeted his sympathy and support for Wiggins.
I'm sad to hear that. Where did you hear about this?
Its on his instagram.
Smokedawg, a Toronto rapper, was shot a couple of days ago. He's a known acquaintance of guys like wiggins and drake. No idea how close they were though.
Re: Wolves offseason thread
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:17 pm
by khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Just commenting on Cam's point about the time to trade Jimmy was on draft night. That would have been preferred, But i still think there is a window to move him up until training camp. And then of course at the deadline, but I'm sure his trade value would be much less at that point.
Thibs is here and Jimmy is here. Just let that pipe dream die. At best Thibs would be fired at the deadline and that would require a disaster of a start which isn't happening because we have a good team. It's just not happening.
Re: Wolves offseason thread
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:36 pm
by Monster
crazy-canuck wrote:monsterpile wrote:lipoli390 wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:lipoli390 wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:Wiggs can't be in a good place right now with all this jimmy drama while mourning a loss.
What loss is that?
A friend of his died in a shooting the other day.
That's sad. I'm sure Butler tweeted his sympathy and support for Wiggins.
I'm sad to hear that. Where did you hear about this?
Its on his instagram.
Smokedawg, a Toronto rapper, was shot a couple of days ago. He's a known acquaintance of guys like wiggins and drake. No idea how close they were though.
Thanks for the info. Here is an article where the subject is Wiggins Interest in music and Smoke Dawg is referenced a number of times.
https://www.slamonline.com/nba/andrew-wiggins-toronto-music-interview/