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Re: Offseason Targets
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 2:28 pm
by TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]
khans2k5 wrote:It's gonna take a max offer to maybe pry Porter away from the Wizards so if you are talking Porter on a new Max vs Butler on an old max, Butler wins that matchup 10/10. High efficiency doesn't make you a stud when you are doing it as a third option. It makes you a good role player. Also, why would you pay max money to an elite role player? If you are paying the max, that guy better be able to come in here and challenge Wiggins and Towns for touches, not just be a secondary piece that plays off them.
Gobert is not one of Utah's top two offensive options either, but he's Utah's most valuable player and definitely worth the max. Draymond Green is the fourth option and one helluva "role player" and he's worth a max deal. Porter should definitely get the max.
Re: Offseason Targets
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 3:01 pm
by BloopOracle
TeamRicky wrote:khans2k5 wrote:It's gonna take a max offer to maybe pry Porter away from the Wizards so if you are talking Porter on a new Max vs Butler on an old max, Butler wins that matchup 10/10. High efficiency doesn't make you a stud when you are doing it as a third option. It makes you a good role player. Also, why would you pay max money to an elite role player? If you are paying the max, that guy better be able to come in here and challenge Wiggins and Towns for touches, not just be a secondary piece that plays off them.
Gobert is not one of Utah's top two offensive options either, but he's Utah's most valuable player and definitely worth the max. Draymond Green is the fourth option and one helluva "role player" and he's worth a max deal. Porter should definitely get the max.
You just named two top defensive player of the year candidates, is Otto even considered above average defensively?
Re: Offseason Targets
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 3:07 pm
by TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]
BloopOracle wrote:TeamRicky wrote:khans2k5 wrote:It's gonna take a max offer to maybe pry Porter away from the Wizards so if you are talking Porter on a new Max vs Butler on an old max, Butler wins that matchup 10/10. High efficiency doesn't make you a stud when you are doing it as a third option. It makes you a good role player. Also, why would you pay max money to an elite role player? If you are paying the max, that guy better be able to come in here and challenge Wiggins and Towns for touches, not just be a secondary piece that plays off them.
Gobert is not one of Utah's top two offensive options either, but he's Utah's most valuable player and definitely worth the max. Draymond Green is the fourth option and one helluva "role player" and he's worth a max deal. Porter should definitely get the max.
How much you think the defenve woes were due to effort, or from not enough reps in Thibs system likely decides how you iew the reason we lost so many 2nd half leads...and and likely the main thing that
You just named two top defensive player of the year candidates, is Otto even considered above average defensively?
Yes, Otto is a decent defender (already above average) and improving (he's still 23 and improved every season so far). He would be a huge defensive upgrade over Wiggins at the 3, though if he were here, Wiggins would slide over to the 2.
OK, I'm done talking about Otto Porter.
Re: Offseason Targets
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 3:47 pm
by khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
TeamRicky wrote:BloopOracle wrote:TeamRicky wrote:khans2k5 wrote:It's gonna take a max offer to maybe pry Porter away from the Wizards so if you are talking Porter on a new Max vs Butler on an old max, Butler wins that matchup 10/10. High efficiency doesn't make you a stud when you are doing it as a third option. It makes you a good role player. Also, why would you pay max money to an elite role player? If you are paying the max, that guy better be able to come in here and challenge Wiggins and Towns for touches, not just be a secondary piece that plays off them.
Gobert is not one of Utah's top two offensive options either, but he's Utah's most valuable player and definitely worth the max. Draymond Green is the fourth option and one helluva "role player" and he's worth a max deal. Porter should definitely get the max.
How much you think the defenve woes were due to effort, or from not enough reps in Thibs system likely decides how you iew the reason we lost so many 2nd half leads...and and likely the main thing that
You just named two top defensive player of the year candidates, is Otto even considered above average defensively?
Yes, Otto is a decent defender (already above average) and improving (he's still 23 and improved every season so far). He would be a huge defensive upgrade over Wiggins at the 3, though if he were here, Wiggins would slide over to the 2.
OK, I'm done talking about Otto Porter.
The real answer is he holds his own and doesn't hurt you defensively, but you can't put him on the opposing teams best player and expect him to hinder that guy much. Doesn't hurt you, but doesn't really help you either should not even be in the same conversation as Gobert and Draymond.
Re: Offseason Targets
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 8:50 pm
by WildWolf2813
Patrick Patterson has made zero impact this postseason yet we're on the short list of teams looking to pay him $18 mil a year.
Re: Offseason Targets
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 10:28 pm
by thedoper
WildWolf2813 wrote:Patrick Patterson has made zero impact this postseason yet we're on the short list of teams looking to pay him $18 mil a year.
Patterson for 18 mil better not be the answer. I'm with you there.
Re: Offseason Targets
Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 12:01 pm
by TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]
WildWolf2813 wrote:Patrick Patterson has made zero impact this postseason yet we're on the short list of teams looking to pay him $18 mil a year.
That's an insane price for him. Where did you hear this figure? I read an article that says his value is $12.5 on the high end.
If some team wants to pay Patterson a crazy amount, let them. There are enough free agents, that the patient teams will be able to get some useful players at bargain prices after other teams blow their wads.
Re: Offseason Targets
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 3:05 pm
by BloopOracle
Just received some horrible news, Dwight Howard was spotted uptown at Sebastian Joe's last night
keep him the hell away from our team!
Re: Offseason Targets
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 3:23 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
BloopOracle wrote:Just received some horrible news, Dwight Howard was spotted uptown at Sebastian Joe's last night
keep him the hell away from our team!
Who are you, C.J.? First Harden's concussion, then his partying, and now a Dwight Howard sighting!
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Re: Offseason Targets
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 9:44 pm
by Coolbreeze44
Not sure where to put this and i don't want to start a thread, so here you go:
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