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This team is in a tough spot. By the looks of it, this team needs a bench overhaul, but using a top 5 pick for that seems like overkill. I'd love to trade down somehow to land Valentine and Sabonis instead of drafting another raw rookie and kicking the can down the road another year or two.

WildWolf2813 wrote:This team is in a tough spot. By the looks of it, this team needs a bench overhaul, but using a top 5 pick for that seems like overkill. I'd love to trade down somehow to land Valentine and Sabonis instead of drafting another raw rookie and kicking the can down the road another year or two.

I hear you. I am against taking a major project type player. I like both Sabonis and Valentine, but think we will need to get bench players in free agency.

WildWolf2813 wrote:This team is in a tough spot. By the looks of it, this team needs a bench overhaul, but using a top 5 pick for that seems like overkill. I'd love to trade down somehow to land Valentine and Sabonis instead of drafting another raw rookie and kicking the can down the road another year or two.

It's a tough spot, meaning a good problem to have. We have a lot of different options. I'm with you though. Dunn, Hield, Poeltl, Valentine, Sabonis.....guys that all have at least a couple of seasons of college ball and are physically put together pretty well. Dunn and Poeltl will probably go right in our draft range of 5-7, whereas the others are projected lower.

WildWolf2813 wrote:This team is in a tough spot. By the looks of it, this team needs a bench overhaul, but using a top 5 pick for that seems like overkill. I'd love to trade down somehow to land Valentine and Sabonis instead of drafting another raw rookie and kicking the can down the road another year or two.

Whoever we draft is likely going to take a year or two to impact the game anyway. Hard to say that Valentine and Sabonis are going to walk in the league and be great off the bat.

Camden wrote:

WildWolf2813 wrote:This team is in a tough spot. By the looks of it, this team needs a bench overhaul, but using a top 5 pick for that seems like overkill. I'd love to trade down somehow to land Valentine and Sabonis instead of drafting another raw rookie and kicking the can down the road another year or two.

Whoever we draft is likely going to take a year or two to impact the game anyway. Hard to say that Valentine and Sabonis are going to walk in the league and be great off the bat.

We won''t need them to be great, but we would need them to be contributors off the bat and I think definitely Valentine can be that.

WildWolf2813 wrote:

Camden wrote:

WildWolf2813 wrote:This team is in a tough spot. By the looks of it, this team needs a bench overhaul, but using a top 5 pick for that seems like overkill. I'd love to trade down somehow to land Valentine and Sabonis instead of drafting another raw rookie and kicking the can down the road another year or two.

Whoever we draft is likely going to take a year or two to impact the game anyway. Hard to say that Valentine and Sabonis are going to walk in the league and be great off the bat.

We won''t need them to be great, but we would need them to be contributors off the bat and I think definitely Valentine can be that.

I don't. I think Valentine's going to struggle his first couple of years and then carve out a pretty solid role for himself wherever he goes. He makes college look easy because he's a four-year player and the game slowed down for him. There will be an adjustment period for him at the next level.

Camden0916 wrote:

WildWolf2813 wrote:

Camden wrote:

WildWolf2813 wrote:This team is in a tough spot. By the looks of it, this team needs a bench overhaul, but using a top 5 pick for that seems like overkill. I'd love to trade down somehow to land Valentine and Sabonis instead of drafting another raw rookie and kicking the can down the road another year or two.

Whoever we draft is likely going to take a year or two to impact the game anyway. Hard to say that Valentine and Sabonis are going to walk in the league and be great off the bat.

We won''t need them to be great, but we would need them to be contributors off the bat and I think definitely Valentine can be that.

I don't. I think Valentine's going to struggle his first couple of years and then carve out a pretty solid role for himself wherever he goes. He makes college look easy because he's a four-year player and the game slowed down for him. There will be an adjustment period for him at the next level.

Those raw Rookies Prozingis and KAT haven't done much have they? ;)

khans2k5 wrote:

Mikkeman wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:Ben Simmons for Isaiah Thomas, Crowder and Olynyk. Who says no?

I would offer Simmons for Crowder and their highest pick (from Nets) if it would end up lower than our pick.

I would want something else from them. Simmons is more than a Crowder step up from everyone but Ingram in this draft. I'd wait to see who's at that pick and either draft Dunn and ask for Olynyk or draft Poeltl and ask for Thomas.

I consider Crowder more valuable than either Thomas or Olynyk. He is still signed for 4 more years with pretty cheap contract (7.2 million per year average salary) when Thomas has only two years and Olynyk just one year left from their current contracts. I also think that Crowder has improved most of those three in last couple of years and is by far best defender among them. His PER has improved every year with nice steps from 10.2 to 16.2, it improved even this year when he was moved to full time starter.

If we would be able to get 1st pick and convert it to Crowder and 4th/5th pick, I would be pretty confident that Wolves would be in playoffs next season. Starting five of Rubio, Wiggins, Crowder, Towns and Dieng/free agent big with defensive presence would be already pretty good. And bench with Dunn, Lavine, Muhammad, Bjelica and Dieng/free agent big would be probably also quite competitive.

I would still hope that Lavine would at some point before he needs to be resigned replace Crowder in starting five and Crowder would become our super sub 3&D guy whose main job would be chasing opponent's to wing players.

monsterpile wrote:

Those raw Rookies Prozingis and KAT haven't done much have they? ;)

They are not the norm that is for sure. This year has been a pretty god rookie class in general. Unless you get Simmons I am not sure I see a starter for us in this draft. Maybe Poeltl could start day one for us. I do like how he would bring some grit and more size.

bleedspeed177 wrote:

monsterpile wrote:

Those raw Rookies Prozingis and KAT haven't done much have they? ;)

They are not the norm that is for sure. This year has been a pretty god rookie class in general. Unless you get Simmons I am not sure I see a starter for us in this draft. Maybe Poeltl could start day one for us. I do like how he would bring some grit and more size.

You may be right. My point was that the reality is projecting who of some rookie draft picks will have more immediate impact is something we donalot but I think it's very much a crapshoot. Hell Lavine was a project and less than 2 years later the dude looks like a real NBA rotation player. Gobert was supposed to be raw and too skinny and he made a major impact a year and a half in. I know In cherry picking and I'm not suggesting we swing for the fences with our picks but I also think picking a guy for immediate impact might be a little bit of fools gold.