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Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:17 am
by mjs34
lipoli390 wrote:
Yes, it's maddening to say the least. As you might recall, I hated the "we're too young" narrative last season. The Thunder weren't too young when they won 50 games with a 3rd year player in Durant, a 2nd year player in Westbrook and a rookie named Harden before he was anything like he is today. I didn't expect the Wolves to make the playoffs last season, but I expected improvement and we saw very little if any. So this season, our record is significantly better with the addition of veterans Butler, Taj and Crawford, but we still have a bottom 5 defense and a stagnant office, which I maintain is part of why we have a poor defense. Yes, it says a lot about our two #1 picks and our head coach.
Are looking for Thibs or Layden to throw on a uniform and protect the paint! :o
I was reading an article that was covering George Hill, and how he doesn't seem to be a good fit in SAC. He signed a 3 year/57 mil deal similar to Teague's, but he doesn't have the PO at the end. I would love to see the wolves offer to swap Teague for him. That would certainly help our D, and he is a good 3pt shooter as well. SAC likely does it to reduce the contract term to 2 years, because they are developing Fox, and are already giving him significant minutes at PG.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:24 am
by Monster
sjm34 wrote:lipoli390 wrote:
Yes, it's maddening to say the least. As you might recall, I hated the "we're too young" narrative last season. The Thunder weren't too young when they won 50 games with a 3rd year player in Durant, a 2nd year player in Westbrook and a rookie named Harden before he was anything like he is today. I didn't expect the Wolves to make the playoffs last season, but I expected improvement and we saw very little if any. So this season, our record is significantly better with the addition of veterans Butler, Taj and Crawford, but we still have a bottom 5 defense and a stagnant office, which I maintain is part of why we have a poor defense. Yes, it says a lot about our two #1 picks and our head coach.
Are looking for Thibs or Layden to throw on a uniform and protect the paint! :o
I was reading an article that was covering George Hill, and how he doesn't seem to be a good fit in SAC. He signed a 3 year/57 mil deal similar to Teague's, but he doesn't have the PO at the end. I would love to see the wolves offer to swap Teague for him. That would certainly help our D, and he is a good 3pt shooter as well. SAC likely does it to reduce the contract term to 2 years, because they are developing Fox, and are already giving him significant minutes at PG.
The last year of Hill's contract is only guaranteed for 1 million. In addition he fits better next to Fox if the play together better than Teague would.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:25 am
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
George Hill is [s]almost three years older[/s], less durable over his career, and playing at a significantly worse level than Jeff Teague. Tough to think with full confidence that he can bounce back. Not to mention, point guard play hasn't really been a problem for this team. I would look elsewhere.
Edit: Two years, one month, six days. For some reason, I thought Teague was still 28-years old. Ha.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:31 am
by mjs34
monsterpile wrote:sjm34 wrote:lipoli390 wrote:
Yes, it's maddening to say the least. As you might recall, I hated the "we're too young" narrative last season. The Thunder weren't too young when they won 50 games with a 3rd year player in Durant, a 2nd year player in Westbrook and a rookie named Harden before he was anything like he is today. I didn't expect the Wolves to make the playoffs last season, but I expected improvement and we saw very little if any. So this season, our record is significantly better with the addition of veterans Butler, Taj and Crawford, but we still have a bottom 5 defense and a stagnant office, which I maintain is part of why we have a poor defense. Yes, it says a lot about our two #1 picks and our head coach.
Are looking for Thibs or Layden to throw on a uniform and protect the paint! :o
I was reading an article that was covering George Hill, and how he doesn't seem to be a good fit in SAC. He signed a 3 year/57 mil deal similar to Teague's, but he doesn't have the PO at the end. I would love to see the wolves offer to swap Teague for him. That would certainly help our D, and he is a good 3pt shooter as well. SAC likely does it to reduce the contract term to 2 years, because they are developing Fox, and are already giving him significant minutes at PG.
The last year of Hill's contract is only guaranteed for 1 million. In addition he fits better next to Fox if the play together better than Teague would.
Where did you see that Monster? That would substantially reduce any reason for the trade.
Hill is almost exactly 2 years and 1 month older Cam, but is also a much more aggressive defender than Teague.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:37 am
by Monster
sjm34 wrote:monsterpile wrote:sjm34 wrote:lipoli390 wrote:
Yes, it's maddening to say the least. As you might recall, I hated the "we're too young" narrative last season. The Thunder weren't too young when they won 50 games with a 3rd year player in Durant, a 2nd year player in Westbrook and a rookie named Harden before he was anything like he is today. I didn't expect the Wolves to make the playoffs last season, but I expected improvement and we saw very little if any. So this season, our record is significantly better with the addition of veterans Butler, Taj and Crawford, but we still have a bottom 5 defense and a stagnant office, which I maintain is part of why we have a poor defense. Yes, it says a lot about our two #1 picks and our head coach.
Are looking for Thibs or Layden to throw on a uniform and protect the paint! :o
I was reading an article that was covering George Hill, and how he doesn't seem to be a good fit in SAC. He signed a 3 year/57 mil deal similar to Teague's, but he doesn't have the PO at the end. I would love to see the wolves offer to swap Teague for him. That would certainly help our D, and he is a good 3pt shooter as well. SAC likely does it to reduce the contract term to 2 years, because they are developing Fox, and are already giving him significant minutes at PG.
The last year of Hill's contract is only guaranteed for 1 million. In addition he fits better next to Fox if the play together better than Teague would.
Where did you see that Monster? That would substantially reduce any reason for the trade.
Hill is almost exactly 2 years and 1 month older Cam, but is also a much more aggressive defender than Teague.
https://www.google.com/amp/nba.nbcsports.com/2017/07/11/report-final-season-of-george-hills-kings-contract-just-1-million-guaranteed/amp/
It was also reported that he had no interest in coming here this summer.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:42 am
by mjs34
monsterpile wrote:sjm34 wrote:monsterpile wrote:sjm34 wrote:lipoli390 wrote:
Yes, it's maddening to say the least. As you might recall, I hated the "we're too young" narrative last season. The Thunder weren't too young when they won 50 games with a 3rd year player in Durant, a 2nd year player in Westbrook and a rookie named Harden before he was anything like he is today. I didn't expect the Wolves to make the playoffs last season, but I expected improvement and we saw very little if any. So this season, our record is significantly better with the addition of veterans Butler, Taj and Crawford, but we still have a bottom 5 defense and a stagnant office, which I maintain is part of why we have a poor defense. Yes, it says a lot about our two #1 picks and our head coach.
Are looking for Thibs or Layden to throw on a uniform and protect the paint! :o
I was reading an article that was covering George Hill, and how he doesn't seem to be a good fit in SAC. He signed a 3 year/57 mil deal similar to Teague's, but he doesn't have the PO at the end. I would love to see the wolves offer to swap Teague for him. That would certainly help our D, and he is a good 3pt shooter as well. SAC likely does it to reduce the contract term to 2 years, because they are developing Fox, and are already giving him significant minutes at PG.
The last year of Hill's contract is only guaranteed for 1 million. In addition he fits better next to Fox if the play together better than Teague would.
Where did you see that Monster? That would substantially reduce any reason for the trade.
Hill is almost exactly 2 years and 1 month older Cam, but is also a much more aggressive defender than Teague.
https://www.google.com/amp/nba.nbcsports.com/2017/07/11/report-final-season-of-george-hills-kings-contract-just-1-million-guaranteed/amp/
It was also reported that he had no interest in coming here this summer.
Too bad, I am already tired of watching Teague float around guarding nobody. We already have two soft defenders in our lineup, we didn't need a third.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:09 pm
by Lipoli390
sjm34 wrote:monsterpile wrote:sjm34 wrote:monsterpile wrote:sjm34 wrote:lipoli390 wrote:
Yes, it's maddening to say the least. As you might recall, I hated the "we're too young" narrative last season. The Thunder weren't too young when they won 50 games with a 3rd year player in Durant, a 2nd year player in Westbrook and a rookie named Harden before he was anything like he is today. I didn't expect the Wolves to make the playoffs last season, but I expected improvement and we saw very little if any. So this season, our record is significantly better with the addition of veterans Butler, Taj and Crawford, but we still have a bottom 5 defense and a stagnant office, which I maintain is part of why we have a poor defense. Yes, it says a lot about our two #1 picks and our head coach.
Are looking for Thibs or Layden to throw on a uniform and protect the paint! :o
I was reading an article that was covering George Hill, and how he doesn't seem to be a good fit in SAC. He signed a 3 year/57 mil deal similar to Teague's, but he doesn't have the PO at the end. I would love to see the wolves offer to swap Teague for him. That would certainly help our D, and he is a good 3pt shooter as well. SAC likely does it to reduce the contract term to 2 years, because they are developing Fox, and are already giving him significant minutes at PG.
The last year of Hill's contract is only guaranteed for 1 million. In addition he fits better next to Fox if the play together better than Teague would.
Where did you see that Monster? That would substantially reduce any reason for the trade.
Hill is almost exactly 2 years and 1 month older Cam, but is also a much more aggressive defender than Teague.
https://www.google.com/amp/nba.nbcsports.com/2017/07/11/report-final-season-of-george-hills-kings-contract-just-1-million-guaranteed/amp/
It was also reported that he had no interest in coming here this summer.
Too bad, I am already tired of watching Teague float around guarding nobody. We already have two soft defenders in our lineup, we didn't need a third.
I share your frustration watching Teague defend (or not defend). Apparently, Hill didn't want to play for Thibs so that wasn't an option. I've become convinced that Taj is worth the 2-year $28 million deal Thibs gave him. But I'm equally convinced that Teague is not worth the 3-year $58 million deal he got from Thibs. If Thibs wanted a scoring PG he could have saved $9 million per year signing D. Collison - who's actually a better 3-point shooter than Teague.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:40 pm
by thedoper
The Pacers are a fun team. It's too bad Lance couldn't work out for us. I guess he was just meant to play for the Pacers.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:15 pm
by Monster
thedoper wrote:The Pacers are a fun team. It's too bad Lance couldn't work out for us. I guess he was just meant to play for the Pacers.
I watched about the last half of the 4th quarter of that game before going to the Wolves game. Lyles had a heck of a game and Dipo was ballin. Good to see another eastern Conf team win. That Paul George trade keeps looking pretty solid with Dipo and Sabonis looking like nice players.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:41 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
monsterpile wrote:thedoper wrote:The Pacers are a fun team. It's too bad Lance couldn't work out for us. I guess he was just meant to play for the Pacers.
I watched about the last half of the 4th quarter of that game before going to the Wolves game. Lyles had a heck of a game and Dipo was ballin. Good to see another eastern Conf team win. That Paul George trade keeps looking pretty solid with Dipo and Sabonis looking like nice players.
....not sure they (or anyone else) foresaw this type of breakout season from Dipo, but yeah, it is turning out pretty well for them.