CoolBreeze44 wrote:It obviously wasn't working at the time, but suppose Thibs had just stayed the course with KAT, Wig, and Zach. If we had also been able to add Ant and McDaniels, how good would we be right now? I'd take those 5 for the next 5-7 years and see what happens. Interesting to think about.
Add Doncic instead. Because no Jimmy and Zach not playing we are bottom 5 I think. Doncic would have been a fairly easy trade up target at that point which is what Dallas did (had we not been top 3).
We could literally have Zach, Doncic, Wiggins, KAT and McDaniels. That would be a fun team to watch.
CoolBreeze44 wrote:It obviously wasn't working at the time, but suppose Thibs had just stayed the course with KAT, Wig, and Zach. If we had also been able to add Ant and McDaniels, how good would we be right now? I'd take those 5 for the next 5-7 years and see what happens. Interesting to think about.
Add Doncic instead. Because no Jimmy and Zach not playing we are bottom 5 I think. Doncic would have been a fairly easy trade up target at that point which is what Dallas did (had we not been top 3).
We could literally have Zach, Doncic, Wiggins, KAT and McDaniels. That would be a fun team to watch.
Indeed
Rubio, Zach, Wiggins, FA, Towns. Bench. I would have loved to see that. The biggest issue was giving Thibs the ability to hire. He is not a bad coach. Then you add Glen into the decision making. Disaster.
BloopOracle wrote:Our analysis of lamelo ball pre draft continues to age horribly lol
Yeah, frustrating to watch a guy that struggled so much with his shot and finishing in an inferior pro league last year look so much better as an NBA rookie.
Meanwhile, Edwards is performing exactly as one would expect based on his one year at Georgia: An inefficient volume shot taker that is now a more inefficient volume shot taker.
Why can't we ever be the exception on the good side of things!?
BloopOracle wrote:Our analysis of lamelo ball pre draft continues to age horribly lol
Yeah, frustrating to watch a guy that struggled so much with his shot and finishing in an inferior pro league last year look so much better as an NBA rookie.
Meanwhile, Edwards is performing exactly as one would expect based on his one year at Georgia: An inefficient volume shot taker that is now a more inefficient volume shot taker.
Why can't we ever be the exception on the good side of things!?
To be fair... was 12 games or whatever it was in a pro league with some legit former NBA players better or worse than 69 college minutes vs. South Carolina State, University of Illinois-Chicago and Oregon?
BloopOracle wrote:Our analysis of lamelo ball pre draft continues to age horribly lol
Yeah, frustrating to watch a guy that struggled so much with his shot and finishing in an inferior pro league last year look so much better as an NBA rookie.
Meanwhile, Edwards is performing exactly as one would expect based on his one year at Georgia: An inefficient volume shot taker that is now a more inefficient volume shot taker.
Why can't we ever be the exception on the good side of things!?
To be fair... was 12 games or whatever it was in a pro league with some legit former NBA players better or worse than 69 college minutes vs. South Carolina State, University of Illinois-Chicago and Oregon?
Or, even playing for a bad Georgia team?
I don't know what was better or worse. All I know is that past performance in an inferior league is usually a solid indicator of future performance in the NBA (at least directionally). That maxim seemed to apply perfectly to Edwards (of course!). It didn't apply to Ball. Why are we always on the wrong side of these things?
BloopOracle wrote:Our analysis of lamelo ball pre draft continues to age horribly lol
Yeah, frustrating to watch a guy that struggled so much with his shot and finishing in an inferior pro league last year look so much better as an NBA rookie.
Meanwhile, Edwards is performing exactly as one would expect based on his one year at Georgia: An inefficient volume shot taker that is now a more inefficient volume shot taker.
Why can't we ever be the exception on the good side of things!?
To be fair... was 12 games or whatever it was in a pro league with some legit former NBA players better or worse than 69 college minutes vs. South Carolina State, University of Illinois-Chicago and Oregon?
Or, even playing for a bad Georgia team?
I don't know what was better or worse. All I know is that past performance in an inferior league is usually a solid indicator of future performance in the NBA (at least directionally). That maxim seemed to apply perfectly to Edwards (of course!). It didn't apply to Ball. Why are we always on the wrong side of these things?
Just venting.....
But there were hints with Ball. Consider in that small 12-game sample in the NBL...
- His stats improved significantly in his final 6 games compared to his first 6 games... across the board. His shooting was similar to what we've seen in the NBA.
I posted those splits previously on this site. But I can't find them now. It was a huge difference and when we're working with small sample sizes with 18 year olds playing against grown professionals, it's looking like the improvement was relevant.
BloopOracle wrote:Our analysis of lamelo ball pre draft continues to age horribly lol
Yeah, frustrating to watch a guy that struggled so much with his shot and finishing in an inferior pro league last year look so much better as an NBA rookie.
Meanwhile, Edwards is performing exactly as one would expect based on his one year at Georgia: An inefficient volume shot taker that is now a more inefficient volume shot taker.
Why can't we ever be the exception on the good side of things!?
To be fair... was 12 games or whatever it was in a pro league with some legit former NBA players better or worse than 69 college minutes vs. South Carolina State, University of Illinois-Chicago and Oregon?
Or, even playing for a bad Georgia team?
I don't know what was better or worse. All I know is that past performance in an inferior league is usually a solid indicator of future performance in the NBA (at least directionally). That maxim seemed to apply perfectly to Edwards (of course!). It didn't apply to Ball. Why are we always on the wrong side of these things?
Just venting.....
But there were hints with Ball. Consider in that small 12-game sample in the NBL...
- His stats improved significantly in his final 6 games compared to his first 6 games... across the board. His shooting was similar to what we've seen in the NBA.
I posted those splits previously on this site. But I can't find them now. It was a huge difference and when we're working with small sample sizes with 18 year olds playing against grown professionals, it's looking like the improvement was relevant.
I still believe LaMelo Ball has a higher franchise failure rate than Edwards or Wiseman.
BloopOracle wrote:Our analysis of lamelo ball pre draft continues to age horribly lol
Yeah, frustrating to watch a guy that struggled so much with his shot and finishing in an inferior pro league last year look so much better as an NBA rookie.
Meanwhile, Edwards is performing exactly as one would expect based on his one year at Georgia: An inefficient volume shot taker that is now a more inefficient volume shot taker.
Why can't we ever be the exception on the good side of things!?
To be fair... was 12 games or whatever it was in a pro league with some legit former NBA players better or worse than 69 college minutes vs. South Carolina State, University of Illinois-Chicago and Oregon?
Or, even playing for a bad Georgia team?
I don't know what was better or worse. All I know is that past performance in an inferior league is usually a solid indicator of future performance in the NBA (at least directionally). That maxim seemed to apply perfectly to Edwards (of course!). It didn't apply to Ball. Why are we always on the wrong side of these things?
Just venting.....
But there were hints with Ball. Consider in that small 12-game sample in the NBL...
- His stats improved significantly in his final 6 games compared to his first 6 games... across the board. His shooting was similar to what we've seen in the NBA.
I posted those splits previously on this site. But I can't find them now. It was a huge difference and when we're working with small sample sizes with 18 year olds playing against grown professionals, it's looking like the improvement was relevant.
I haven't seen the splits on Ball, so perhaps you are right.
It's just frustrating as hell. May be McDaniels will break the mold by being a major upside surprise. He has certainly exceeded my expectations as I thought he should be playing the G-League bubble. Turns out he's our best defender!
Still, I have learned over the years to give it time. Most of the players I get enamored with ultimately end up regressing.
Glenn Robinson III was just waived by the Kings. I'm almost positive the Wolves won't look to pick him up, but I still think he's better than a couple of options Minnesota has been giving minutes to at the forward spots this season. He's also a 37.3-percent shooter from three for his career albeit on limited attempts. Someone is going to get a capable role player off the bench here.
