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Re: Draft Day GDT
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:55 pm
by Coolbreeze44
longstrangetrip wrote:Q12543 wrote:longstrangetrip wrote:This is an extraordinary night, fellas. While Towns is not a surprise, it still is terrific news. And I would have never anticipated landing Tyus Jones with only having to give up 2 second rounders. Flip plugged our two biggest needs with high quality players.
Q, I hear your concerns about Tyus, and have had some of the same thoughts in the past about comparing him with Burke. And I also have big concerns about Tyus' defense. But he has an extraordinary makeup that you don't see in players his age. He has won at every level, and always seems to play his best in the biggest games. I think it was bleedspeed who fairly questioned why anyone would draft a team's 3rd best player in the first round. I concur that statistically Tyus was Duke's third best player most of the season. But when they really needed him, and especially in the NCAA finals, he was their best player...yes, better than Okafor and Winslow. They don't beat Wisconsin without Tyus having the game he had. I don't anticipate that Tyus will ever be a good NBA defender, but he will be able to run the offense and score from Day 1, and won't be afraid to take the big shot when we need it.
44% on 2-point field goals. That's a major red flag to me. He will really struggle to score on drives to the hoop and the in-between game with the athletes and length in the NBA. Rubio-esque struggles, wtithout all the good stuff. I do think his outside shooting will be better, but even there.....he was good, but not great.
The "he's a winner" stuff is overrated. We have plenty of guys with a winning pedigree already on the roster (KG in Boston; Pek/Rubio in Europe; Dieng with Louisville, etc.).
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I don't see Tyus scoring much, at least not in his rookie year. But I think he was the best distributing PG I saw all season, and that includes D'Angelo Russell. And I disagree that the "winner" stuff is overrated. You can't have too many of those kind of guys. Give me a guy with modest stats who is a proven winner over a guy with big stats who hasn't proven anything, like Carmelo Anthony or Ke...never mind.
He was the best "pure" point guard in the entire draft.
Re: Draft Day GDT
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:55 pm
by Volans19
I wish that Cliff Alexander would get picked already so I can go to bed
Re: Draft Day GDT
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:59 pm
by TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]
northernhoops wrote:TeamRicky wrote:Wolves draft Rakeem Christmas. Nice wingspan.
You realize we picked for Cleveland right?
Of course I know that.
Re: Draft Day GDT
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:02 pm
by 60WinTim
I just watched Flip's presser on Tyus. I already liked the trade, but know I am feeling somewhat ecstatic about it!
I would still like to see a 3rd PG who actually has some experience. Did I hear Flip say there might be something else as he left the presser?
Re: Draft Day GDT
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:04 pm
by slimcalhoun27 [enjin:6640095]
So how bad are these red flags on Robert Upshaw? I know he has issues, but an invite to camp to see if he can beat out Hamilton has to be a good idea.
Anyone have more on him?
Re: Draft Day GDT
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:04 pm
by Tactical unit
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Remember it was Tyus, not Okafor or Winslow who was the MVP of the NCAA tournament. Absolutely love guys who play their best when the lights are the brightest.
He was a part of more than one comeback on the year for them. Don't sleep on the fact that he is still just a teenager, he could improve quite a bit over the next few years.
Re: Draft Day GDT
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:05 pm
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
Now that we know our draft picks, this is how I see the roster shaping up. I'm hearing so much about Flip not being sold on Bjelica, I don't think he will be coming over this year,
C. Pek, Towns, Dieng
PF: KG, AB, Payne
SF: Wiggins, Bazz, Hummel, Bud
SG: Martin, Zach
PG: Rubio, Jones
I think Flip is going to fill the 15th position with a shooter...an end of the roster kind of guy who could turn into a 3-point threat. Flip will be looking at free agents that he can try out in SL to fill this role.
Re: Draft Day GDT
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:07 pm
by TAFKASP
60WinTim wrote:I just watched Flip's presser on Tyus. I already liked the trade, but know I am feeling somewhat ecstatic about it!
I would still like to see a 3rd PG who actually has some experience. Did I hear Flip say there might be something else as he left the presser?
Do you have a link to the press conference?
Re: Draft Day GDT
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:09 pm
by slimcalhoun27 [enjin:6640095]
longstrangetrip wrote:Now that we know our draft picks, this is how I see the roster shaping up. I'm hearing so much about Flip not being sold on Bjelica, I don't think he will be coming over this year,
C. Pek, Towns, Dieng
PF: KG, AB, Payne
SF: Wiggins, Bazz, Hummel, Bud
SG: Martin, Zach
PG: Rubio, Jones
I think Flip is going to fill the 15th position with a shooter...an end of the roster kind of guy who could turn into a 3-point threat. Flip will be looking at free agents that he can try out in SL to fill this role.
I hate to say it, but to see Dieng at 3rd deep Center especially behind Pek who last I heard is still nowhere close to being back is sickening. I hated Peks deal a few years ago and hate it even more now since I feel Dieng is going to be really solid at C for us, especially with Towns potential ability at both C and PF
Re: Draft Day GDT
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:11 pm
by 60WinTim
TheSP wrote:60WinTim wrote:I just watched Flip's presser on Tyus. I already liked the trade, but know I am feeling somewhat ecstatic about it!
I would still like to see a 3rd PG who actually has some experience. Did I hear Flip say there might be something else as he left the presser?
Do you have a link to the press conference?
I watched it streamed live. I'm sure a link will be available sometime tomorrow, if not sooner...