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thedoper wrote:Well that deteriorated quickly. Go Wolves!!

Lol. No kidding, Doper!

Alright. I guess I can't "close the poll", but I'm assuming all votes are in. I like the poll for several reasons:

1.) It's fun to see how many people are actively reading this forum. Looks like we have a group of 30. That's a small group! And (without actually counting), I'd guess maybe like 10 people actually post daily. What's impressive is that I don't see this as an "echo chamber" as I've seen written on here a few times. Using this poll as an example, I see it as 8 out of the 30 were not impressed with the trade (27%). So while there is a clear majority, there is still a good group of people who are going to be locked and loaded for "I told you so" posts if we flop post trade.

2.) I also like this poll because it shows how many accounts Cam has (2) - Bwah-ha! Just busting chops. Remember the old ESPN days though? I remember some guys getting busted for have burner accounts (don't recall if it was NBA - could have been baseball forum).

3.) Finally, this poll is good because it means that 73.3% of us will have nothing to bitch about if this trade doesn't work because we are on record that we were okay with this move.

Peace out!

I found it surprising that the pure like/don't like vote was such a blowout. But the results might have been different if we asked who won the trade. I largely agree with the consensus in the media that this was a unique deal that might be good for all three teams (although personally I don't think it will turn out well for the Lakers). Anyway, good poll Anthony.

I can't remember, but was there ever any talk or rumor that TC tried to include the DLo/Conley swap as part of the Gobert deal? I recall there was a lot of buzz back then about TC trying to move DLo, so it would have made a lot of sense. My guess is that we tried to include that swap, but Utah wasn't interested (you'll recall that DLo was not very highly regarded in preseason rankings). Some of us noted that DLo's recent excellent shooting might have boosted his profile around the league and attracted attention from LA...it's not likely we would have had a chance to get Conley without DLo's improved shooting.

FNG wrote:I found it surprising that the pure like/don't like vote was such a blowout. But the results might have been different if we asked who won the trade. I largely agree with the consensus in the media that this was a unique deal that might be good for all three teams (although personally I don't think it will turn out well for the Lakers). Anyway, good poll Anthony.

The Lakers obviously won out in my opinion. They were likely going to miss the playoffs with what they had. D'LO, Beasley, and Vando fill a ton of needs for them. Kyrie is a better player than any of them of course, but they needed more than one player. They did so while keeping their other 1st rounder. They can potentially just let D'Lo walk and make room to sign Kyrie in FA all while likely saving face by making the playoffs this season in LeBron's record breaking year.

The Jazz lost in overall value in my opinion, but they don't care. They have 15 first rounders through 2029, 60 mil in cap for FA, and some nice young players in Markannen, Kessler, Sexton, and Agbaji.

The Wolves also came out better off. Takes pressure off the offseason PG search, opened up a bit more room for internal extensions, added a young player, and 3 darts to throw at the board or sweetener in a trade.

So yeah, overall all it made sense for all 3.

FNG wrote:I can't remember, but was there ever any talk or rumor that TC tried to include the DLo/Conley swap as part of the Gobert deal? I recall there was a lot of buzz back then about TC trying to move DLo, so it would have made a lot of sense. My guess is that we tried to include that swap, but Utah wasn't interested (you'll recall that DLo was not very highly regarded in preseason rankings). Some of us noted that DLo's recent excellent shooting might have boosted his profile around the league and attracted attention from LA...it's not likely we would have had a chance to get Conley without DLo's improved shooting.

And the Lakers' desperation to get back into the playoffs. I believe TC would have made the DLo/Conley swap in the offseason if he could have. We kept hearing they were looking for a PG replacement. But then the Gobert opportunity presented itself...

60WinTim wrote:

FNG wrote:I can't remember, but was there ever any talk or rumor that TC tried to include the DLo/Conley swap as part of the Gobert deal? I recall there was a lot of buzz back then about TC trying to move DLo, so it would have made a lot of sense. My guess is that we tried to include that swap, but Utah wasn't interested (you'll recall that DLo was not very highly regarded in preseason rankings). Some of us noted that DLo's recent excellent shooting might have boosted his profile around the league and attracted attention from LA...it's not likely we would have had a chance to get Conley without DLo's improved shooting.

And the Lakers' desperation to get back into the playoffs. I believe TC would have made the DLo/Conley swap in the offseason if he could have. We kept hearing they were looking for a PG replacement. But then the Gobert opportunity presented itself...

I think it's pretty clear (and that's what Jon K reports) that the Wolves thought Gobert and Russell who is a much younger player had a chance to work well. It wasn't completely working out and they decided to move on. Utah may also have thought Conley was more valuable in a trade in one way or another than Russell was going to be. They may have miscalculated there.

I think the other factor is that I think the Wolves ultimately envision a bigger guard playing defense and doing a little of everything next to Edwards long term. I'm not. Saying they won't go for a smaller PG long term at all but I think they are going to find someone that give them more defensive versatility and lets Edwards have the ball quite a bit.

Keep in mind that DLO is really a rental for the Lakers. They aren't going to give him a large chunk of their cap space this summer. So when evaluating the trade you have to look beyond this season.

CoolBreeze44 wrote:Keep in mind that DLO is really a rental for the Lakers. They aren't going to give him a large chunk of their cap space this summer. So when evaluating the trade you have to look beyond this season.

Need shooters around the King so depending on the price and fit he shows this year he may be more than a rental.

Tactical unit wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:Keep in mind that DLO is really a rental for the Lakers. They aren't going to give him a large chunk of their cap space this summer. So when evaluating the trade you have to look beyond this season.

Need shooters around the King so depending on the price and fit he shows this year he may be more than a rental.

When the Lakers commit a big part of their space, they go big game hunting. I think DLO plays elsewhere next season.