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Camden wrote:Sure, whatever the reason for her platform, it doesn't change that the words coming out of her mouth illustrate the viewpoints of many, including myself.




That's my point.

She's parroting talking points (almost always) about what one side thinks but only for her own financial gain. Use yourself as the mouthpiece if that's what you want to do. It's a heckuva lot more genuine.

All too often, we seek out people who think like us. It's how politics and social media work. Personally, I don't want to be grouped with some of these slimeballs, including the Candace Owens types.

And I tune them out the moment I see them. The inherent disingenuous to their personas skews any message they have.
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Focusing on George Floyd's character by anyone is a complete distraction from the real issue. By Candace engaging with any side bar discussion about people positively or negatively view him shows she has no real interest in improving the issue at hand. She got all worked up about a side bar issue here whether people are glorifying George Floyd. It doesn't matter. What he did that day was in no way deserving of lethal force, that is the issue. That is what is bringing people out in the streets, not George Floyd's amazing positive character. George Floyd was one in a long line of people of color that have disproportionately been victims of excessive police violence. Majoring in a minor point of how he is retrospectively being eulogized misses the mark completely. Has she ever heard a eulogy? All people from all races have been painted in a more positive light in their eulogies, it's what humans do. It's this type of behavior that make me think along with Abe's point that she is only out for her brand, and not positive change at all. Disgusting timing by her on that video, and a total lack of insight in my opinion.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Camden wrote:Sure, whatever the reason for her platform, it doesn't change that the words coming out of her mouth illustrate the viewpoints of many, including myself.




That's my point.

She's parroting talking points (almost always) about what one side thinks but only for her own financial gain. Use yourself as the mouthpiece if that's what you want to do. It's a heckuva lot more genuine.

All too often, we seek out people who think like us. It's how politics and social media work. Personally, I don't want to be grouped with some of these slimeballs, including the Candace Owens types.

And I tune them out the moment I see them. The inherent disingenuous to their personas skews any message they have.


Okay... You're inherently right to that opinion.
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I continue to appreciate this forum. People have been willing to share and I've liked being able to see how other people feel and some different views.

We have all been hoodwinked at one point or another by media etc whether it's political type things or sports or other more every day life. If anyone would have some natural distrust of media it would be Timberwolves fans! Lol I don't think anyone here is blindly following along to anything and it seems like people here are open to listening to each other as well as having some level of critical thinking for themselves.

IMHO we always have to remember that any organization or movement or whatever has a spectrum of beliefs involved with it. We are all Timberwolves fans. Does that mean people should assume all Timberwolves fan are all about out team jacking up 300 threes a game and no defense? Nope. Nobody here is supportive of the team Sucking at playing defense and certainly there are people that wonder if the team is giving up a possible strength by playing this particular system of basketball. What bothers me the most is the massive over generalizations that are made all around this country that includes quite a number of topics including the ones being discussed here. If you are for one thing you are probably for/or against some other thing even if they aren't even all that related. I've done it at some point too probably even this very week but jumping to conclusions like this don't bring people together.

I hope this conversation continues here for at least a while longer.
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Camden wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Camden wrote:Sure, whatever the reason for her platform, it doesn't change that the words coming out of her mouth illustrate the viewpoints of many, including myself.




That's my point.

She's parroting talking points (almost always) about what one side thinks but only for her own financial gain. Use yourself as the mouthpiece if that's what you want to do. It's a heckuva lot more genuine.

All too often, we seek out people who think like us. It's how politics and social media work. Personally, I don't want to be grouped with some of these slimeballs, including the Candace Owens types.

And I tune them out the moment I see them. The inherent disingenuous to their personas skews any message they have.


Okay... You're inherently right to that opinion.


And my opinion will be that Candace Owens is no longer a conservative in (x) years ... when the marketplace for her services dictate that its no longer best for her career.

Hell, we see this every day across the spectrum. In fact, we almost had two really really rich and old guys battling for president who swapped political parties seemingly on a whim (Bloomberg v. Trump).

Is it because their ideologies changed? Not really. Trump remains a savvy businessman and masterclass branding savant. Bloomberg might have seen a path forward for his ego? It's fine to switch political parties or evolve ideologically. Evolution is GREAT.

But when swapping those positions means being 100% opposed to your previous takes in 100% of the cases... in a clearly black-and-white are the only two colors world... Fuck those types of people.

The world is gray. It's blue. It's orange. And it's really fricking complicated to truly come to terms with certain issues if we're being honest about them. Yet, we see people everyday make snap judgements on them to coincide with the way their chosen political party thinks.


[Note: I'm not classifying you into there... this just got me ranting a bit.]
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Who is voting for dumb or dumber this fall?
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bleedspeed177 wrote:Who is voting for dumb or dumber this fall?



As long as 243M+ people are arguing that (dumb) is 100% right and (dumber) is 100% wrong... it doesn't really matter, does it?

The power is still in the right place. And the plebs are in their proper place.
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bleedspeed177 wrote:Who is voting for dumb or dumber this fall?


You can vote for Timberwolves management?
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thedoper wrote:
bleedspeed177 wrote:Who is voting for dumb or dumber this fall?


You can vote for Timberwolves management?


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Damn it. I missed that just sitting there... waiting to be hit out of the park.
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thedoper wrote:
bleedspeed177 wrote:Who is voting for dumb or dumber this fall?


You can vote for Timberwolves management?


Or the Cleveland Browns. Your choice.
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