Yeah Christian Wood would have been a nice asset for the Wolves. Its too bad none of our role players apart from Jaden or PatBev seem to really have any value. That seems like a no brainer for Dallas. Would rather have Wood than any of the Free Agents out there.
thedoper wrote:Yeah Christian Wood would have been a nice asset for the Wolves. Its too bad none of our role players apart from Jaden or PatBev seem to really have any value. That seems like a no brainer for Dallas. Would rather have Wood than any of the Free Agents out there.
I don't think a lack of role players with value prevented the Wolves from getting Wood. I suspect the Wolves weren't interested in trading 19 for Wood. Otherwise, Houston would have jumped at the deal. They clearly traded for pick 26, not any of the role players they received in return. Getting 19 for Wood would have been a much better deal for Houston. I have to believe they called Connelly and Connelly simply said not. Or perhaps the Wolves couldn't match salary without giving up core guys, but I doubt it since there's a way to address the salary-match issue - e.g., bringing in another team.
I agree that Wood would have been a nice addition to the Wolves. Would he have been worth our #19 pick and some salary filler? Maybe. On the other hand, there are some good bigs available in the free agent market, which suggests that it makes sense to hold the #19 pick for now and make better use of it.
We've had to deals so far this summer involving 1st-round picks in this year's draft, but we still don't have much insight into the value of his year's first rounders.
On the one hand, the price Houston paid for the Mavs' #26 pick seems pretty steep to me. That deal was basically Christian Wood for #26. The rest of the players were marginal bench players included for salary purposes. But don't think Denver deal with OKC reflects a particularly high value for the #30 pick.
At first blush, it looks like the Nuggets gave up a lot for OKC's #30 pick, but a closer look tells a different tale. The Nuggets gave up their 2027 lottery-protected 1st and JaMychal Green. But Green was a marginal player for the Nuggets, averaging only 16 minutes and 6.4 points a game last year, and he was about to exercise his $8M option for next season. So I Denver actually benefits financially from parting with Green without any significant impact on the quality of their rotation. OKC is in full rebuild mode, which means a marginal older vet means little to them. So Denver actually gave up very little for the #30 pick. They gave up a highly protected pick five years and free up an additional $8M under the luxury tax by giving up a player they won't miss. And Denver also received two further 2nd-round picks in return.
My take away is that the Wolves will have opportunities to acquire another 1st-round pick in the 25-30 range without giving up any key players. I think Naz Reid and one or two of this year's second round picks would be enough to snag another 1st-rounder in that range. That seems better than the deal OKC got for the #30 pick. If Connelly seems someone he really likes at 22, 25, 26 or 29 after making their selection at 19, then the Wolves could make a strong offer with come combination of the following:
- Naz Reid
- One or all of picks 40, 48 and 50, and
- Perhaps the Wolves lottery-protected first-round pick in 2028.
thedoper wrote:Yeah Christian Wood would have been a nice asset for the Wolves. Its too bad none of our role players apart from Jaden or PatBev seem to really have any value. That seems like a no brainer for Dallas. Would rather have Wood than any of the Free Agents out there.
I don't think a lack of role players with value prevented the Wolves from getting Wood. I suspect the Wolves weren't interested in trading 19 for Wood. Otherwise, Houston would have jumped at the deal. They clearly traded for pick 26, not any of the role players they received in return. Getting 19 for Wood would have been a much better deal for Houston. I have to believe they called Connelly and Connelly simply said not. Or perhaps the Wolves couldn't match salary without giving up core guys, but I doubt it since there's a way to address the salary-match issue - e.g., bringing in another team.
I agree that Wood would have been a nice addition to the Wolves. Would he have been worth our #19 pick and some salary filler? Maybe. On the other hand, there are some good bigs available in the free agent market, which suggests that it makes sense to hold the #19 pick for now and make better use of it.
Ideally you sign the next Christian Wood without giving up any assets to add him to the roster.
The natural thing for me to ask is if Beasley had any value to the Rockets. For the Rockets #26 would likely have more value than Beasley straight up because they are in full blown rebuild mode. I think if the Rockets were ready to move on from Wood but they were a team that was likely hoping to be more competitive and farther along like say the Kings then a younger productive player like Beasley might have more value. It will be interesting to see what direction the Kings go in the draft.
lipoli390 wrote:We've had to deals so far this summer involving 1st-round picks in this year's draft, but we still don't have much insight into the value of his year's first rounders.
On the one hand, the price Houston paid for the Mavs' #26 pick seems pretty steep to me. That deal was basically Christian Wood for #26. The rest of the players were marginal bench players included for salary purposes. But don't think Denver deal with OKC reflects a particularly high value for the #30 pick.
At first blush, it looks like the Nuggets gave up a lot for OKC's #30 pick, but a closer look tells a different tale. The Nuggets gave up their 2027 lottery-protected 1st and JaMychal Green. But Green was a marginal player for the Nuggets, averaging only 16 minutes and 6.4 points a game last year, and he was about to exercise his $8M option for next season. So I Denver actually benefits financially from parting with Green without any significant impact on the quality of their rotation. OKC is in full rebuild mode, which means a marginal older vet means little to them. So Denver actually gave up very little for the #30 pick. They gave up a highly protected pick five years and free up an additional $8M under the luxury tax by giving up a player they won't miss. And Denver also received two further 2nd-round picks in return.
My take away is that the Wolves will have opportunities to acquire another 1st-round pick in the 25-30 range without giving up any key players. I think Naz Reid and one or two of this year's second round picks would be enough to snag another 1st-rounder in that range. That seems better than the deal OKC got for the #30 pick. If Connelly seems someone he really likes at 22, 25, 26 or 29 after making their selection at 19, then the Wolves could make a strong offer with come combination of the following:
- Naz Reid
- One or all of picks 40, 48 and 50, and
- Perhaps the Wolves lottery-protected first-round pick in 2028.
Lip question for you and anyone else on this board. Let's say you could trade all three 2nd rounders for say #29 would you do it? I would be a bit conflicted only because ai think the Wolves would use a chance with one of those 2nd to draft a guy that's worth taking a shot at who will keep playing internationally. Will a player like that work out? Idk but now that Tim Connelly around I tend to value a pick/s like that a little higher. Meanwhile it feels like there could be some worthwhile players available at #40 or maybe even at one of the later picks if we go with the best stash-able player with the first of our 2nd round picks. I think I would be cool with either direction.
I like the idea of Naz and a 2nd to move up in the first round or maybe even Naz and a later 2nd for a 2nd rounder in the 30's.
lipoli390 wrote:We've had to deals so far this summer involving 1st-round picks in this year's draft, but we still don't have much insight into the value of his year's first rounders.
On the one hand, the price Houston paid for the Mavs' #26 pick seems pretty steep to me. That deal was basically Christian Wood for #26. The rest of the players were marginal bench players included for salary purposes. But don't think Denver deal with OKC reflects a particularly high value for the #30 pick.
At first blush, it looks like the Nuggets gave up a lot for OKC's #30 pick, but a closer look tells a different tale. The Nuggets gave up their 2027 lottery-protected 1st and JaMychal Green. But Green was a marginal player for the Nuggets, averaging only 16 minutes and 6.4 points a game last year, and he was about to exercise his $8M option for next season. So I Denver actually benefits financially from parting with Green without any significant impact on the quality of their rotation. OKC is in full rebuild mode, which means a marginal older vet means little to them. So Denver actually gave up very little for the #30 pick. They gave up a highly protected pick five years and free up an additional $8M under the luxury tax by giving up a player they won't miss. And Denver also received two further 2nd-round picks in return.
My take away is that the Wolves will have opportunities to acquire another 1st-round pick in the 25-30 range without giving up any key players. I think Naz Reid and one or two of this year's second round picks would be enough to snag another 1st-rounder in that range. That seems better than the deal OKC got for the #30 pick. If Connelly seems someone he really likes at 22, 25, 26 or 29 after making their selection at 19, then the Wolves could make a strong offer with come combination of the following:
- Naz Reid
- One or all of picks 40, 48 and 50, and
- Perhaps the Wolves lottery-protected first-round pick in 2028.
Naz Reid-yes (frankly I'd trade any Wolf other than Ant, Kat or Jalen for a first round pick in this year's draft)
Seconds-absolutely (though I hope we keep at least one, as there are some upside swings at 40-50)
Future Pick-I sure hope note (even if its lottery protected), Wolves need to keep their future picks as they are valuable either to replenish talent on cheap rookie deals or for a trade when we need to get over hump
I think Wood doesn't fit Houston's timeframe for when they plan on competing in meaningful playoff games. Wood was blocking 2 young bigs that Houston wants to develop that are cheaper options and thus they cashed out. I think Wood is a good fit for Dallas because they need scoring help from bigs if you watched there playoff performance. A win win trade IMO for both teams.
As far as the Wolves hypothetically adding Wood, I feel like he is rather thin and maybe I'm wrong but is he frequently injured? The main reason I am glad the Wolves didn't go buy Wood for a 1st, is him being on a one year contract and costs to much. I'd rather spend the 1st and try to find a cheaper player that can be around longer and have potential to develop into more than Wood. I don't feel like we missed out on Wood because other FA's that I suspect will cost less may be a better fit.
thedoper wrote:Yeah Christian Wood would have been a nice asset for the Wolves. Its too bad none of our role players apart from Jaden or PatBev seem to really have any value. That seems like a no brainer for Dallas. Would rather have Wood than any of the Free Agents out there.
I don't think a lack of role players with value prevented the Wolves from getting Wood. I suspect the Wolves weren't interested in trading 19 for Wood. Otherwise, Houston would have jumped at the deal. They clearly traded for pick 26, not any of the role players they received in return. Getting 19 for Wood would have been a much better deal for Houston. I have to believe they called Connelly and Connelly simply said not. Or perhaps the Wolves couldn't match salary without giving up core guys, but I doubt it since there's a way to address the salary-match issue - e.g., bringing in another team.
I agree that Wood would have been a nice addition to the Wolves. Would he have been worth our #19 pick and some salary filler? Maybe. On the other hand, there are some good bigs available in the free agent market, which suggests that it makes sense to hold the #19 pick for now and make better use of it.
Wood may have been a nice addition in a vacuum but when you consider financial costs and loss of a draft pick I think that's the opposite of a nice addition. More of a costly addition IMO.
Tactical unit wrote:Wood may have been a nice addition in a vacuum but when you consider financial costs and loss of a draft pick I think that's the opposite of a nice addition. More of a costly addition IMO.
I don't see how anyone could see this trade as anything but a massive win for Dallas. They traded bench fodder and the 26th overall pick for an almost 27-year old, versatile, modern-style big who has produced at a high level the last several years. They are in win-now mode with Luka Doncic. Christian Wood checks all the boxes in terms of what kind of big to pair with him. It's also highly unlikely that the 26th overall pick in the draft ever produces a season like the one Wood is probably going to have next year let alone the several additional years they'll inevitably sign him for. In short, this is a home run for the Mavericks and will make them a tougher team to deal with for the present and likely near future.
