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Im starting to get on board. His last 3 deals were good under the radar transactions.

Last year, we had saric, taj, and tolliver take up our minutes for roughly 20+ million. We now have 2 young guys that could give us similar production to taj for less than 4 million and covington to get as many 3s as saric and tolliver just by changing his position.

We are built to be a pace team, hopefully prig sees it that way too.

Ideally we need another pg, outside of that, i like the way this team is shaping up.

crazy-canuck wrote:Im starting to get on board. His last 3 deals were good under the radar transactions.

Last year, we had saric, taj, and tolliver take up our minutes for roughly 20+ million. We now have 2 young guys that could give us similar production to taj for less than 4 million and covington to get as many 3s as saric and tolliver just by changing his position.

We are built to be a pace team, hopefully prig sees it that way too.

Ideally we need another pg, outside of that, i like the way this team is shaping up.

I'm sorry, which two guys do we have that will give us similar production to Taj?

And you say we are built to be a pace team. How is that exactly?

I like the optimism, but not sure I agree with it!

I don't agree that we'll get production from either or both of these guys similar to what we got from Taj. I hope we do, but I wouldn't anticipate it. My hope is that one or both of them has that leap year where suddenly seem on track to achieve their potential. It's not like either one has totally flamed out.

Q12543 wrote:

crazy-canuck wrote:Im starting to get on board. His last 3 deals were good under the radar transactions.

Last year, we had saric, taj, and tolliver take up our minutes for roughly 20+ million. We now have 2 young guys that could give us similar production to taj for less than 4 million and covington to get as many 3s as saric and tolliver just by changing his position.

We are built to be a pace team, hopefully prig sees it that way too.

Ideally we need another pg, outside of that, i like the way this team is shaping up.

I'm sorry, which two guys do we have that will give us similar production to Taj?

And you say we are built to be a pace team. How is that exactly?

I like the optimism, but not sure I agree with it!

In 20 minutes a game for the Knicks, Vonleh wasnt too far off with what taj was doing here. Will he get the minutes is a different story.

Both players averaged roughly 25 min per game last year and here were their stats:

Gibson: 10.8 PPG; 6.5 REB; 0.8 AST; 1.0 BLK

Vonleh: 8.4 PPG; 7.8 REB; 1.9 AST; 0.8 BLK


And Im good with some optimism, too many people are ready to jump off a cliff.

except he can shoot the 3 and switch onto smaller players

Last year our big man debate was who would start next to KAT, Dieng or Taj? This year it sounds like it will be Covington, or Covington-like, starting next to KAT. It would seem Bell, Vonley and Dieng are all available to come off the bench to either give KAT a break, or provide defensive help against bigger lineups. I really like the variety we have to work with in the bigs department compared to last year.

crazy-canuck wrote:

Q12543 wrote:

crazy-canuck wrote:Im starting to get on board. His last 3 deals were good under the radar transactions.

Last year, we had saric, taj, and tolliver take up our minutes for roughly 20+ million. We now have 2 young guys that could give us similar production to taj for less than 4 million and covington to get as many 3s as saric and tolliver just by changing his position.

We are built to be a pace team, hopefully prig sees it that way too.

Ideally we need another pg, outside of that, i like the way this team is shaping up.

I'm sorry, which two guys do we have that will give us similar production to Taj?

And you say we are built to be a pace team. How is that exactly?

I like the optimism, but not sure I agree with it!

In 20 minutes a game for the Knicks, Vonleh wasnt too far off with what taj was doing here. Will he get the minutes is a different story.

Both players averaged roughly 25 min per game last year and here were their stats:

Gibson: 10.8 PPG; 6.5 REB; 0.8 AST; 1.0 BLK

Vonleh: 8.4 PPG; 7.8 REB; 1.9 AST; 0.8 BLK


And Im good with some optimism, too many people are ready to jump off a cliff.

Wrote that before I saw the Vonleh signing (thought you may have been talking about KBD and Bell). That being said, Gibson was the more efficient player offensively, able to really punish guys in the low box at a highly efficient rate and also didn't turn the ball over as much.

60WinTim wrote:Last year our big man debate was who would start next to KAT, Dieng or Taj? This year it sounds like it will be Covington, or Covington-like, starting next to KAT. It would seem Bell, Vonley and Dieng are all available to come off the bench to either give KAT a break, or provide defensive help against bigger lineups. I really like the variety we have to work with in the bigs department compared to last year.

The question is whether it's a variety of mediocrity or if anyone can truly give us plus level defense without severely hamstringing our offense. We'll see.

I'm gonna just throw up a small red flag on these signings. Vonleh and Bell haven't been anything special on defense and both are now our guys who are supposed to be defensive pieces next to KAT. This could be a real bad front court defense again. We're gonna need a lot of buy in and a lot of improvement from all the bigs on the team to make this not be real bad. On paper I like the moves and in theory if everything goes right these are good fits next to Towns. I'm a bit worried on what it's actually gonna look like on the court. There's a good chance it could be real bad.

khans2k5 wrote:I'm gonna just throw up a small red flag on these signings. Vonleh and Bell haven't been anything special on defense and both are now our guys who are supposed to be defensive pieces next to KAT. This could be a real bad front court defense again. We're gonna need a lot of buy in and a lot of improvement from all the bigs on the team to make this not be real bad. On paper I like the moves and in theory if everything goes right these are good fits next to Towns. I'm a bit worried on what it's actually gonna look like on the court. There's a good chance it could be real bad.

Fair take, I kind of agree. I would have preferred a more proven defensive big like Ed Davis or even Dedmond. But these guys are worth a shot given their age and price.