Dillon Brooks vs Wolves

[kekgeek]

Game notes.

Ryan yet again refuses to get the ball to our leading scorer in the 4th quarter (Wiggins). 1 shot in desperation time. Who scored 11 3rd quarter points. This is once again a common theme in loses, Ryan can't find ways to get our best scorers touches.

Okogie is not an NBA player, Im sorry he is not, I actually think Graham is better than him.

I love Vonleh, Ryan does not love Vonleh. He was taken out and the defense went to shit.

Naz was very good offensively, he really struggled playing defense without fouling.

Wiggins, was super lazy on defense and effort, if he didnt go off in the 3rd I thought he was trash.

A+ game for Culver.

I hate Dillion Brooks

Morant is a stud.

Napier played like trash tonight.

I thought Teague played solid but man can we stop every time he is in the game trying to find PG vs C matchups on offense. Same problem under Thibs.

KBD and Martin didnt contribute.

Cov was very good.

Ryan once again played no bigs together. During the big run for the Griz the Wolves couldnt get a defensive rebound. It is a big problem with this system to never deviate from it.

[crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]]

Ryan is an analytics guy, so there must be something no one else is seeing in playing Teague and Napier together. Because that pairing is brutal.

Teague plays well for himself when he's aggressive, but everyone else is just so out of sync with him.

[kekgeek]

If ryan is an analytics guy, there must be something no one else is seeing in playing Teague and Napier together.

Teague plays well for himself when he's aggressive, but everyone else is just so out of sync with him.

Wolves were -13.3 per 100 possessions what is terrible in the 83 minutes they have had this year

[KG4Ever]

Kek, your sorry ass Thibs gutted the roster and Ryan has to try to win with a mostly G League roster. If all you have to do is complain, find another team.

[KG4Ever]

Jarrett Culver had a great game.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

That's a hot team we just played. They are lighting people up, not just us. Some of those buckets Morant scored were just sheer skill and quickness. Hat tip to him and Brooks (who yes, annoys the hell out of me too).

It's kind of depressing to see Memphis starting to build something good with their young guys. Meanwhile, we are still trying to build around two #1 draft picks from over 5 years ago. That says as much about KAT and Wiggins as it does our franchise.

Naz Reid is averaging something like 25 points per 36 minutes. He needs more work defensively, as we saw tonight, but it becoming increasingly apparent that Rosas may have found a real steal.

Kelan Martin continues to be a guy that people think can shoot, but has no track record of actually being able to shoot well (except summer league I guess). I don't get it. Tonight he proved it again. KBD continues to barely be noticeable out there as well.

Okogie should be sent to the G-League for some sort of rehabilitation assignment while we give Nowell some extended time with the big league team - basically swap the two since they are both SGs. What a shame to watch the way he is struggling out there. Keep in mind that he was doing a LOT of really good things off the bench those first 15 games or so. It's only gone down hill since then. Could be yet another bad draft pick by this franchise.

[kekgeek]

Kek, your sorry ass Thibs gutted the roster and Ryan has to try to win with a mostly G League roster. If all you have to do is complain, find another team.

Ryan deserves criticism this game. He went with a lineup that has been absolutely destroyed this year. Teague and Napier have been terrible together this year. He deserves criticism when he runs a bad lineup combination and that combo blows a double digit 4th lead.

Also it's a common thing that the wolves have struggled getting our leading scores touches in the 4th. Towns multiple times and Wiggins didn't get touches tonight late.

I could care less about thibs he is gone, I didn't love thibs but do think he was treated unfairly by many. Completely understand his firing.

But Ryan and the system deserves blame when it dosen't work and the wolves never deviate on playing 2 bigs even when it makes sense when we couldn't get a rebound in the 4th.

Maybe I'll eat my words in a couple of years and Ryan and his system works but Okogie, Cov, Teague, Napier, Graham have all been worse under Ryan while he dosen't trust/play Vonleh and Bell has less minutes with the wolves then the warriors. Only Dieng and Wiggins have shown any improvement from previous NBA years.

And yes Culver was great tonight

[kekgeek]

That's a hot team we just played. They are lighting people up, not just us. Some of those buckets Morant scored were just sheer skill and quickness. Hat tip to him and Brooks (who yes, annoys the hell out of me too).

It's kind of depressing to see Memphis starting to build something good with their young guys. Meanwhile, we are still trying to build around two #1 draft picks from over 5 years ago. That says as much about KAT and Wiggins as it does our franchise.

Naz Reid is averaging something like 25 points per 36 minutes. He needs more work defensively, as we saw tonight, but it becoming increasingly apparent that Rosas may have found a real steal.

Kelan Martin continues to be a guy that people think can shoot, but has no track record of actually being able to shoot well (except summer league I guess). I don't get it. Tonight he proved it again. KBD continues to barely be noticeable out there as well.

Okogie should be sent to the G-League for some sort of rehabilitation assignment while we give Nowell some extended time with the big league team - basically swap the two since they are both SGs. What a shame to watch the way he is struggling out there. Keep in mind that he was doing a LOT of really good things off the bench those first 15 games or so. It's only gone down hill since then. Could be yet another bad draft pick by this franchise.

I do agree with everything you said. For the 1st half I watched the Grizzlies broadcast and they have scored 110+ now in 7 consecutive games what is the current long streak in the NBA.

I disagree with some of the lineup combinations late. But props to the young guys on the Grizzlies for taking advantage of that.

[Lipoli390]

That's a hot team we just played. They are lighting people up, not just us. Some of those buckets Morant scored were just sheer skill and quickness. Hat tip to him and Brooks (who yes, annoys the hell out of me too).

It's kind of depressing to see Memphis starting to build something good with their young guys. Meanwhile, we are still trying to build around two #1 draft picks from over 5 years ago. That says as much about KAT and Wiggins as it does our franchise.

Naz Reid is averaging something like 25 points per 36 minutes. He needs more work defensively, as we saw tonight, but it becoming increasingly apparent that Rosas may have found a real steal.

Kelan Martin continues to be a guy that people think can shoot, but has no track record of actually being able to shoot well (except summer league I guess). I don't get it. Tonight he proved it again. KBD continues to barely be noticeable out there as well.

Okogie should be sent to the G-League for some sort of rehabilitation assignment while we give Nowell some extended time with the big league team - basically swap the two since they are both SGs. What a shame to watch the way he is struggling out there. Keep in mind that he was doing a LOT of really good things off the bench those first 15 games or so. It's only gone down hill since then. Could be yet another bad draft pick by this franchise.

Martin averaged 35% from behind the arc in his four years of college. He hit slightly over 36% of his threes in his senior season on relatively high volume. So he's proven to be a good (not great) perimeter shooter in college. But it's not his shooting that has impressed me since watching him in Summer League. It's his rebounding, strength, tenacity, toughness and skills. He has a better handle than Wiggins and is much stronger and more aggressive. He can score with either hand driving to the bucket and he rebounds his position really well. He and Nowell are the guys I want to see more of. At the same time, I want to see less Okogie and Teague.

I share your feelings of depression watching what Memphis is building compared to our situation. We were where Memphis is now a few years ago before Thibodeau and the Butler trade. I think the fact that we haven't become a contender reflects far more on Wiggins than on KAT. And ultimately, it falls on the organization, which has failed to assemble around KAT the level and blend of talent that would make this franchise a contender. Imagine things if this team had drafted Jamaal Murray, Donovan Mitchell, or John Collins. Or imagine what this team could be like in a year or two if the Wolves had the 2nd pick in last year's draft and took Ja Morant. And what if the Wolves had the good judgment to trade Wiggins two years ago when he still had substantial market value.

You know I've been a big Okogie fan, but he's really struggling right now. So I agree with you that the best thing to do now is to send him to the G-League to get his game back on track and bring up Nowell.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

To Kekgeek's point: Teague-Napier now have a net rating of -14 when playing together and that's over 90 minutes across multiple games. Ryan, IT DOESN'T WORK!

We probably have the most depth at Center: KAT, Vonleh, Dieng, and Reid. So if they are four of your top 10 players, why not play two of them together at times!? You can still spread the floor with three out of four of those guys, as only Vonleh isn't much of a 3-pt threat (although I bet he could be given the fact he was starting to make that shot last year).