Pups vs Zion

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Camden0916 wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:If I'm coaching against DLO, I'm getting him in isolation as much as possible. It would serve at least two purposes. The more you make him work on D, the less effective he's going to be on the other end. And because he can't stay in front of anybody, you should get a lot of easy baskets taking him to the tin, or drawing the extra defender and then dishing. I love exploiting one-dimensional players.


Well, what would your expert game-plan be as a coach against Andrew Wiggins? Just roll out a basketball and say play ball? Because that is basically what opponents have been doing to the Wolves for six years and it very clearly wasn't working.

We're not even 10 games into the D'Angelo Russell era. Perhaps instead of making "matador" comments or fake game-planning against the starting point guard we might discuss the game that the Wolves actually won tonight or how Minnesota can upgrade this roster even more.

A step further, I'd wager everything in my possession that the majority of Wolves fans feel a lot better about this current nucleus than perhaps anything they've had in the last decade. That's a solid start. Gersson Rosas is responsible for surrounding them with the compatible pieces to make it a winner. And as far as I can see, he's made some pretty solid strides in terms of roster construction, but there's obviously much left to do.




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My kid made me watch. So we watched only the final few minutes.

The Wolves are ready to win the NBA championship. And Zion sucks. He missed almost everything.
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Zion is an absolute handful to deal with, but I do wonder what his ceiling is and whether it's quite as stratospheric as a LeBron or Giannis. Is he more like a slightly better version of Blake Griffin?
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Q12543 wrote:Zion is an absolute handful to deal with, but I do wonder what his ceiling is and whether it's quite as stratospheric as a LeBron or Giannis. Is he more like a slightly better version of Blake Griffin?

I just can't see his body holding up playing the way he plays.
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Q12543 wrote:Zion is an absolute handful to deal with, but I do wonder what his ceiling is and whether it's quite as stratospheric as a LeBron or Giannis. Is he more like a slightly better version of Blake Griffin?


Depending on the night, I can see anything from Julius Randle to Larry Johnson to Blake Griffin and even Charles Barkley. I have never seen a LeBron James type with him, though. That's just not the style with which he plays.
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Q12543 wrote:Zion is an absolute handful to deal with, but I do wonder what his ceiling is and whether it's quite as stratospheric as a LeBron or Giannis. Is he more like a slightly better version of Blake Griffin?

If he's Blake Griffin, that's good. I think we've forgotten the hype train that followed Griffin and in retrospect, the kind of career he has had (I guess getting traded to Detroit makes people forget). I'm not sure history is gonna be kind to Griffin unfortunately though.
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Q12543 wrote:Reid in the plus column again tonight. That's 8 out of 11 games starting he's been a plus. One other time he was a zero and the other two games barely negative. He's got some pretty quick hands too, as he gets a fair amount of blocks and steals for a guy who is generally pretty much nailed to the ground.


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Camden wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:If I'm coaching against DLO, I'm getting him in isolation as much as possible. It would serve at least two purposes. The more you make him work on D, the less effective he's going to be on the other end. And because he can't stay in front of anybody, you should get a lot of easy baskets taking him to the tin, or drawing the extra defender and then dishing. I love exploiting one-dimensional players.


Well, what would your expert game-plan be as a coach against Andrew Wiggins? Just roll out a basketball and say play ball? Because that is basically what opponents have been doing to the Wolves for six years and it very clearly wasn't working.

We're not even 10 games into the D'Angelo Russell era. Perhaps instead of making "matador" comments or fake game-planning against the starting point guard we might discuss the game that the Wolves actually won tonight or how Minnesota can upgrade this roster even more.

A step further, I'd wager everything in my possession that the majority of Wolves fans feel a lot better about this current nucleus than perhaps anything they've had in the last decade. That's a solid start. Gersson Rosas is responsible for surrounding them with the compatible pieces to make it a winner. And as far as I can see, he's made some pretty solid strides in terms of roster construction, but there's obviously much left to do.


Cam, I think going back two years with Butler coming on board would easily trump this core.

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Attack the PG who can't play defense is the game plan for half the league. Kyrie, Lillard, Kemba, Steph, Westbrook, Rose and even Tony Parker back in the day, Trae Young and on and on. How do all their teams make it work? There's maybe on one hands worth of PG's who are both a game changer on offense and good at defense. The rest who can change the game offensively are in the same boat as DLO and their teams make it work. That excuse or "hole" is something a lot of teams deal with so that isn't gonna be our kryptonite anymore than half the league also has to account for.
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It's more about effort from the PG spot.

Russell simply has to "try" to make an effort more often than not. Even with that low-bar... there have been some questionable moments.

As noted, there are bigger issues on the squad than defense at the 1.
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