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lipoli390 wrote:

kekgeek1 wrote:Im really worried about this team for the rest of the year. Losing to the Nuggets, I would say in our players mind ended our season.

Things Im worried about
1) Even when the players come back from injury, we will have nothing to play for so the energy won't pick up.

2) Taj looks like he knows the season is over and his effort has dropped a ton.

3) That the team is not playing hard to keep Ryan job

4) WE got no value for any of our expiring vets at the trade deadline.

5) KAT playing selfish to make All NBA, he has done it before.

6) Sleepy Wiggins is back

7) We don't have young guys to give minute to. KBD is the only guy who could see minutes who is young who isn't

8) No realistic hope going forward, we have approx 95 mil locked up in KAT, Wiggins, Teague and Gorgui next year. No cap to add players and our solid role players this year are due for a raise if we want them back (Tyus and Rose)

9) If im the Wolves, in the offseason, I would offer KAT and Wiggins to the Pelicans for Davis. Then I would flip Davis and Gorgui to hopefully the Knicks for the #1 pick, smith and Knox. I hate to rebuild again but realistically I don't know how we can build around KAT. We need to restart (It sucks I know). I just don't know how we win with Taylor as the owner and Layden as the GM (way to conservative to get us out of the hole we are in)

Towns isn't being selfish. That's silly. His assists are up. Actually I think he's passing too much sometimes. He takes fewer shots than Wiggins. Is Wiggins selfish?

KAT's a great player who is still barely 23 years old. The problem is that he has little talent around him. The challenge to this organization is to find a way to build around him. That will be difficult with the Wiggins and Gorgui contracts wrapped around the team's neck. But they have to find a way.

The first key is the organization realizing that it should be in a build mode around KAT rather than trying to hold on and possibly eek out an 8th seed. Once they accept that reality, they can start doing smarter things like starting Saric, playing KBD and positioning themselves for a better draft pick.

lipoli390 wrote:

kekgeek1 wrote:Im really worried about this team for the rest of the year. Losing to the Nuggets, I would say in our players mind ended our season.

Things Im worried about
1) Even when the players come back from injury, we will have nothing to play for so the energy won't pick up.

2) Taj looks like he knows the season is over and his effort has dropped a ton.

3) That the team is not playing hard to keep Ryan job

4) WE got no value for any of our expiring vets at the trade deadline.

5) KAT playing selfish to make All NBA, he has done it before.

6) Sleepy Wiggins is back

7) We don't have young guys to give minute to. KBD is the only guy who could see minutes who is young who isn't

8) No realistic hope going forward, we have approx 95 mil locked up in KAT, Wiggins, Teague and Gorgui next year. No cap to add players and our solid role players this year are due for a raise if we want them back (Tyus and Rose)

9) If im the Wolves, in the offseason, I would offer KAT and Wiggins to the Pelicans for Davis. Then I would flip Davis and Gorgui to hopefully the Knicks for the #1 pick, smith and Knox. I hate to rebuild again but realistically I don't know how we can build around KAT. We need to restart (It sucks I know). I just don't know how we win with Taylor as the owner and Layden as the GM (way to conservative to get us out of the hole we are in)

Towns isn't being selfish. That's silly. His assists are up. Actually I think he's passing too much sometimes. He takes fewer shots than Wiggins. Is Wiggins selfish?

KAT's a great player who is still barely 23 years old. The problem is that he has little talent around him. The challenge to this organization is to find a way to build around him. That will be difficult with the Wiggins and Gorgui contracts wrapped around the team's neck. But they have to find a way.

The first key is the organization realizing that it should be in a build mode around KAT rather than trying to hold on and possibly eek out an 8th seed. Once they accept that reality, they can start doing smarter things like starting Saric, playing KBD and positioning themselves for a better draft pick.

kekgeek1 wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:

kekgeek1 wrote:Im really worried about this team for the rest of the year. Losing to the Nuggets, I would say in our players mind ended our season.

Things Im worried about
1) Even when the players come back from injury, we will have nothing to play for so the energy won't pick up.

2) Taj looks like he knows the season is over and his effort has dropped a ton.

3) That the team is not playing hard to keep Ryan job

4) WE got no value for any of our expiring vets at the trade deadline.

5) KAT playing selfish to make All NBA, he has done it before.

6) Sleepy Wiggins is back

7) We don't have young guys to give minute to. KBD is the only guy who could see minutes who is young who isn't

8) No realistic hope going forward, we have approx 95 mil locked up in KAT, Wiggins, Teague and Gorgui next year. No cap to add players and our solid role players this year are due for a raise if we want them back (Tyus and Rose)

9) If im the Wolves, in the offseason, I would offer KAT and Wiggins to the Pelicans for Davis. Then I would flip Davis and Gorgui to hopefully the Knicks for the #1 pick, smith and Knox. I hate to rebuild again but realistically I don't know how we can build around KAT. We need to restart (It sucks I know). I just don't know how we win with Taylor as the owner and Layden as the GM (way to conservative to get us out of the hole we are in)

Towns isn't being selfish. That's silly. His assists are up. Actually I think he's passing too much sometimes. He takes fewer shots than Wiggins. Is Wiggins selfish?

KAT's a great player who is still barely 23 years old. The problem is that he has little talent around him. The challenge to this organization is to find a way to build around him. That will be difficult with the Wiggins and Gorgui contracts wrapped around the team's neck. But they have to find a way.

The first key is the organization realizing that it should be in a build mode around KAT rather than trying to hold on and possibly eek out an 8th seed. Once they accept that reality, they can start doing smarter things like starting Saric, playing KBD and positioning themselves for a better draft pick.

I don't think he has been selfish this year. He has been fantastic. I'm worried when we fall out of it he will stat hunt. It's a 7 million difference per year if he makes all NBA. Kat is the least of our problems. Gorgui/ wiggins/ Teague combined next year will make about 61 million and for no above average player and in some cases no starter is a killer

sjm34 wrote:Wow!

First of all, Glen isn't going to cut Ryan off at the knees by gutting the team. Glen said he wanted to see what Ryan could do with the team for the rest of the year.

Kek if you are trading KAT and Wig for Davis and then Davis and G for the #1, Smith, and Knox, don't you just trade KAT, Wig and G for the trio. I am not sure how the Knicks got the first pick though, and while I can see an argument for a team moving #1 for KAT, I don't see how Smith and Knox are had for Wig and G. That is absolutely insane.

Duke, what is it you expect to get for KAT that is somehow going to help this team?

longstrangetrip wrote:That last lazy play by Wig (where he coasted in for the easy dunk and got blocked from behind) is the last straw for me. My gal is still in his corner and suggested he possibly slowed down to try to draw the and one, but I don't think he has the IQ to do that...his lazyness was on full display in that sequence.

Josh had his second consecutive decent offensive game, but Wig has completley lost his abilty to shoot. His disgraceful 10-28 now has him at 37% his last five (despite a 13-23 in an empty stat game against Utah) and 21% on threes. He's a career 44% shooter, but he's shooting a disgraceful 39% this season. If your shooting stinks that bad, at least show some heart...but instead he gets blocked from behind when he has two steps on the defender...worst play of the season!

sjm34 wrote:

kekgeek1 wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:

kekgeek1 wrote:Im really worried about this team for the rest of the year. Losing to the Nuggets, I would say in our players mind ended our season.

Things Im worried about
1) Even when the players come back from injury, we will have nothing to play for so the energy won't pick up.

2) Taj looks like he knows the season is over and his effort has dropped a ton.

3) That the team is not playing hard to keep Ryan job

4) WE got no value for any of our expiring vets at the trade deadline.

5) KAT playing selfish to make All NBA, he has done it before.

6) Sleepy Wiggins is back

7) We don't have young guys to give minute to. KBD is the only guy who could see minutes who is young who isn't

8) No realistic hope going forward, we have approx 95 mil locked up in KAT, Wiggins, Teague and Gorgui next year. No cap to add players and our solid role players this year are due for a raise if we want them back (Tyus and Rose)

9) If im the Wolves, in the offseason, I would offer KAT and Wiggins to the Pelicans for Davis. Then I would flip Davis and Gorgui to hopefully the Knicks for the #1 pick, smith and Knox. I hate to rebuild again but realistically I don't know how we can build around KAT. We need to restart (It sucks I know). I just don't know how we win with Taylor as the owner and Layden as the GM (way to conservative to get us out of the hole we are in)

Towns isn't being selfish. That's silly. His assists are up. Actually I think he's passing too much sometimes. He takes fewer shots than Wiggins. Is Wiggins selfish?

KAT's a great player who is still barely 23 years old. The problem is that he has little talent around him. The challenge to this organization is to find a way to build around him. That will be difficult with the Wiggins and Gorgui contracts wrapped around the team's neck. But they have to find a way.

The first key is the organization realizing that it should be in a build mode around KAT rather than trying to hold on and possibly eek out an 8th seed. Once they accept that reality, they can start doing smarter things like starting Saric, playing KBD and positioning themselves for a better draft pick.

I don't think he has been selfish this year. He has been fantastic. I'm worried when we fall out of it he will stat hunt. It's a 7 million difference per year if he makes all NBA. Kat is the least of our problems. Gorgui/ wiggins/ Teague combined next year will make about 61 million and for no above average player and in some cases no starter is a killer

I wonder who is responsible for that mess! :-P

kekgeek1 wrote:

sjm34 wrote:Wow!

First of all, Glen isn't going to cut Ryan off at the knees by gutting the team. Glen said he wanted to see what Ryan could do with the team for the rest of the year.

Kek if you are trading KAT and Wig for Davis and then Davis and G for the #1, Smith, and Knox, don't you just trade KAT, Wig and G for the trio. I am not sure how the Knicks got the first pick though, and while I can see an argument for a team moving #1 for KAT, I don't see how Smith and Knox are had for Wig and G. That is absolutely insane.

Duke, what is it you expect to get for KAT that is somehow going to help this team?

Because the Knicks aren't taking 2 bad contracts it eliminates them from free agent market. And I just have them #1 because of the odds