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Re: You're On the Clock at #7: What Would You Do?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:57 pm
by Lipoli390
Drew -- I've been a big fan of Anunoby as a prospect. But I don't like the idea of using a lottery pick on a guy who just blew out his knee before playing a game in the NBA. There's too much talent available at #7 to take that risk.

As for Isaac's athleticism, have you seen any stats on his speed, quickness of vertical? Unfortunately, he didn't participate in the Combine. Watching his highlights he looks plenty fast, quick and athletic enough to be a really good NBA SF. His ball-handling is elite for a player of his length - no doubt a relic of his recent history as a guard before his late growth spurt. As we all know, Kevin Durant isn't fast, quick or strong. He didn't test well in the combine when he was drafted. But his length and skill combination set him up to be the great player he's been in the NBA. I'm not suggesting that Isaac is the next Kevin Durant. But Isaac looks faster and more athletic than Durant and has similar length. I think they have similar frames as well.

Re: You're On the Clock at #7: What Would You Do?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 7:59 pm
by Coolbreeze44
I just can't get past adding another narrow framed body to this roster. If anybody needs a little muscle it's us. I really like Isaac the prospect, just don't necessarily like him for us. I'd love to come out of this draft with Aminu and Bell.

Re: You're On the Clock at #7: What Would You Do?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 8:15 pm
by BloopOracle
With reports that the 76ers love Monk and that they were bummed they didn't get 2 picks so they could take him because 3 is too high, what if we make a deal and take Monk at 7 with them taking Jackson or Isaac for us.,,,do we have anything worthwhile to add to make it work?

Re: You're On the Clock at #7: What Would You Do?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 9:01 pm
by Monster
BloopOracle wrote:With reports that the 76ers love Monk and that they were bummed they didn't get 2 picks so they could take him because 3 is too high, what if we make a deal and take Monk at 7 with them taking Jackson or Isaac for us.,,,do we have anything worthwhile to add to make it work?


I've thought of that but I can't come up with anything that makes it worthwhile that the Wolves would give up to make a team think it was worthwhile. The best so can come up with for the Sixers is adding Tyus.

These trades get complicated when it's a few picks. Both teams basically would have to agree and like the same guy at 3 because what of Monk wasn't there at 7? I think last year the Celtics ended up with Jalen Brown because they liked him but it did se they really liked Dunn but picking him made so little sense when they had Thomas Bradley Smart and Rozier. It makes sense to take BPA...except when it doesn't. If the Sixers REALLY feel Monk is the the right guy to fit with the rest of the roster they should pick him let it be. I haven't looked much into Monk but he is considered the best shooter in the draft and he is really athletic. Sounds like a good fit with Elvis Simmons etc. it will be interesting to see what they do. They could trade down just a spot or 2 for a team wanting to move up a bit to get their guy.

Re: You're On the Clock at #7: What Would You Do?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 9:30 pm
by Papalrep
ABE--The team was horrific defensively. There are two prospects who are projected to thrive on that side of the ball. Jonathon Isaac and Og Anunoby.

Assuming Isaac is gone, I say take the risk on Anunoby making a full recovery. Somebody needs to play defense.

Re: You're On the Clock at #7: What Would You Do?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 9:39 pm
by kekgeek
papalrep wrote:ABE--The team was horrific defensively. There are two prospects who are projected to thrive on that side of the ball. Jonathon Isaac and Og Anunoby.

Assuming Isaac is gone, I say take the risk on Anunoby making a full recovery. Somebody needs to play defense.


To counter that the wolves are not going anywhere if wiggins, towns and Lavine don't improve on that side of the ball.

So I would rather draft a player that could turn out into a solid 2 way player instead of a player like OG that I would be shocked if he is a 2 way player even if he is a stud at d

Re: You're On the Clock at #7: What Would You Do?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 10:12 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
kekgeek1 wrote:
papalrep wrote:ABE--The team was horrific defensively. There are two prospects who are projected to thrive on that side of the ball. Jonathon Isaac and Og Anunoby.

Assuming Isaac is gone, I say take the risk on Anunoby making a full recovery. Somebody needs to play defense.


To counter that the wolves are not going anywhere if wiggins, towns and Lavine don't improve on that side of the ball.

So I would rather draft a player that could turn out into a solid 2 way player instead of a player like OG that I would be shocked if he is a 2 way player even if he is a stud at d


Yeah, he has a long ways to go as a shooter. It's tough to get the total package in a prospect, no doubt about it. I don't envy the front office - there is no obvious option in front of us IMO.

Re: You're On the Clock at #7: What Would You Do?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 10:23 pm
by khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
BloopOracle wrote:With reports that the 76ers love Monk and that they were bummed they didn't get 2 picks so they could take him because 3 is too high, what if we make a deal and take Monk at 7 with them taking Jackson or Isaac for us.,,,do we have anything worthwhile to add to make it work?


If Ball drops for whatever reason I would give them Ricky and Monk for Ball and Covington. They get their backcourt to pair with Simmons and Embiid and we get a replacement PG who likes to move the balll and can score and get a role playing wing we need off the bench.

Re: You're On the Clock at #7: What Would You Do?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 10:50 pm
by Monster
khans2k5 wrote:
BloopOracle wrote:With reports that the 76ers love Monk and that they were bummed they didn't get 2 picks so they could take him because 3 is too high, what if we make a deal and take Monk at 7 with them taking Jackson or Isaac for us.,,,do we have anything worthwhile to add to make it work?


If Ball drops for whatever reason I would give them Ricky and Monk for Ball and Covington. They get their backcourt to pair with Simmons and Embiid and we get a replacement PG who likes to move the balll and can score and get a role playing wing we need off the bench.


Covington is a solid player who is on a dirt cheap contract for the next year. I don't see why the Sixers do that deal to get Rubio when they are planning to play Simmons at PG and they have McConnel who is basically a lot like Rubio.

Re: You're On the Clock at #7: What Would You Do?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:39 pm
by khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
monsterpile wrote:
khans2k5 wrote:
BloopOracle wrote:With reports that the 76ers love Monk and that they were bummed they didn't get 2 picks so they could take him because 3 is too high, what if we make a deal and take Monk at 7 with them taking Jackson or Isaac for us.,,,do we have anything worthwhile to add to make it work?


If Ball drops for whatever reason I would give them Ricky and Monk for Ball and Covington. They get their backcourt to pair with Simmons and Embiid and we get a replacement PG who likes to move the balll and can score and get a role playing wing we need off the bench.


Covington is a solid player who is on a dirt cheap contract for the next year. I don't see why the Sixers do that deal to get Rubio when they are planning to play Simmons at PG and they have McConnel who is basically a lot like Rubio.


I don't believe Simmons can be immediately slotted in as good full-time PG and McConnell is not an NBA starting PG (he's also useless off the ball as a 20% 3pt shooter on less than 1 attempt per game). Simmons will be a rookie next year and everyone is already handing him the keys to everything before he does anything. What happens if he gets hurt again? What happens if his shooting is so bad teams just play way off him and the offense can't run efficiently? Ricky has shown more shooting chops than him at this point. Ricky meanwhile would be able to share the ball around between Monk, Embiid and Simmons and give that team a veteran they desperately need running the show. The best teams have multiple guys who can handle the ball. They don't just leave it in the hands of one guy (and a rookie at that) and say do everything.

McConnell is a backup PG just like Covington is a backup wing on a good team as a defender and rebounder. Covington has had no season with more than 10 games played and higher than 40% FG percentage and he's a below average 3pt shooter. He's a role player which is what we need off the bench. I don't get where all the Covington love comes from. He's an average player who is meant to come off the bench. The only great thing about him is he is on a steal of a contract, but that doesn't make you a good player. That just makes you a good value. I don't know how anyone can rationally say they're better off with a rookie PF running the point and a guy who shoots from behind the arc significantly worse than Ricky than having an experienced PG like Ricky running the point while still having Simmons adjust to the NBA game. Would you be comfortable if our offense was Ben Simmons create everything?