Share Your Trade Ideas

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I understand and appreciate the thinking of, "If it's not broken, don't fix it." I really do. The Wolves as currently constructed are rolling and are playing elite basketball -- there's just no other way to say it. They're 12-3 in their last 15 games going back to that gritty one-point victory against Portland to close a disappointing homestand, and in that period have the No. 1 ORtg, No. 7 DRtg, and the No. 1 Net Differential. That's how en fuego they've been.

However, I think we're choosing to ignore the need to improve our bench. For the season, our bench is a collective negative by almost every metric you can find and depending on where you look, they're ranked as low as 29th in basketball. I feel as good as anyone about where the Wolves are right now, but I understand that that's just unacceptable, especially in the post-season. And the main way to improve that, in my opinion, is to acquire another quality wing. I don't see myself wavering from this position, so, I expect this to be a good debate until the deadline passes.

[crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]]

I understand and appreciate the thinking of, "If it's not broken, don't fix it." I really do. The Wolves as currently constructed are rolling and are playing elite basketball -- there's just no other way to say it. They're 12-3 in their last 15 games going back to that gritty one-point victory against Portland to close a disappointing homestand, and in that period have the No. 1 ORtg, No. 7 DRtg, and the No. 1 Net Differential. That's how en fuego they've been.

However, I think we're choosing to ignore the need to improve our bench. For the season, our bench is a collective negative by almost every metric you can find and depending on where you look, they're ranked as low as 29th in basketball. I feel as good as anyone about where the Wolves are right now, but I understand that that's just unacceptable, especially in the post-season. And the main way to improve that, in my opinion, is to acquire another quality wing. I don't see myself wavering from this position, so, I expect this to be a good debate until the deadline passes.

I agree that we need to improve then bench, especially the need for a big wing. But, I don't think we need a guy that needs big minutes like a bazemore.

There just isn't enough minutes for another name guy. I'd much prefer a dudley or brewer type that can play spot minutes with the bench and can fill in starter minutes if needed.

[Monster]

Can we not trade any more 1st round picks for bench guys? Develop our own players or find some guy that is under appreciated and get something out of them. That's what good franchises do.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I understand and appreciate the thinking of, "If it's not broken, don't fix it." I really do. The Wolves as currently constructed are rolling and are playing elite basketball -- there's just no other way to say it. They're 12-3 in their last 15 games going back to that gritty one-point victory against Portland to close a disappointing homestand, and in that period have the No. 1 ORtg, No. 7 DRtg, and the No. 1 Net Differential. That's how en fuego they've been.

However, I think we're choosing to ignore the need to improve our bench. For the season, our bench is a collective negative by almost every metric you can find and depending on where you look, they're ranked as low as 29th in basketball. I feel as good as anyone about where the Wolves are right now, but I understand that that's just unacceptable, especially in the post-season. And the main way to improve that, in my opinion, is to acquire another quality wing. I don't see myself wavering from this position, so, I expect this to be a good debate until the deadline passes.

I agree that we need to improve then bench, especially the need for a big wing. But, I don't think we need a guy that needs big minutes like a bazemore.

There just isn't enough minutes for another name guy. I'd much prefer a dudley or brewer type that can play spot minutes with the bench and can fill in starter minutes if needed.

You're probably right in that we perhaps don't need to make a move, we don't need to acquire a wing of Kent Bazemore's caliber. We could probably wait for [fill-in the blank] to get bought-out and sign him to play 10-15 MPG and hope he can not mess anything up.

I guess where I'm at is that I see this team being one aggressive move from being able to really make some noise in the second half of this season and into the post-season -- not just this year, but the next several.

Having a wing like Bazemore off the bench would be a luxury, I get that, but sometimes it's the little advantages that can determine a playoff series. Bolstering the backup wing spots with a player that's capable of starting in this league would be a big time advantage.

And I'll say this to counter what's been said already. The argument that there aren't enough minutes to justify making a move for Bazemore, or Carroll, isn't true. There are 96 minutes to be allocated at two positions. Assuming Butler and Wiggins roughly get a combined 70 of those right off the top, that leaves 25-ish to be had. The idea of using three wings garnering all those minutes isn't a new idea either.

The Hawks did it with Korver, Bazemore, and Sefalosha. The Warriors did it with Thompson, Barnes, and Iguodala, and now Thompson, Durant, and Iguodala.

And I know someone will mention it. "How are you going to allocate Jamal Crawford's minutes to another player?"

Like some others here, I'm not a fan of his style of basketball. I don't like the inefficiency he provides, the selfish chucker type game he has, or the lack of a well-rounded game a role player should have. If his jumper is off, he is worthless on the floor. I love his personality and whatever locker room leadership he provides, but it's true. And at 38-years old, I'm okay with making moves that don't account for him and his future here when we're talking about adding a vastly superior player roughly a decade younger than him.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Can we not trade any more 1st round picks for bench guys? Develop our own players or find some guy that is under appreciated and get something out of them. That's what good franchises do.

Just last season we saw the Rockets -- a very good NBA franchise -- dish out a first-round pick for Lou Williams.

In 2015, Portland -- a widely respected franchise -- dealt a first-round pick for Arron Afflalo. That was while already having Nic Batum and Wes Matthews. And if memory serves me correctly, Matthews injured his Achilles shortly thereafter and was done for the season. Afflalo provided excellent insurance for that team and coach Terry Stotts.

Those are just a couple examples that I can think of. And I'll tell you this, not all trades are the same. Additionally, it matters what caliber bench player we're talking about.

Don't confuse trading a first-round pick for Bazemore/Carroll with something like Flip Saunders, bless his soul, dealing a first-round pick for Adreian Payne. That isn't the same thing.

[Monster]

Can we not trade any more 1st round picks for bench guys? Develop our own players or find some guy that is under appreciated and get something out of them. That's what good franchises do.

Just last season we saw the Rockets -- a very good NBA franchise -- dish out a first-round pick for Lou Williams.

In 2015, Portland -- a widely respected franchise -- dealt a first-round pick for Arron Afflalo. That was while already having Nic Batum and Wes Matthews. And if memory serves me correctly, Matthews injured his Achilles shortly thereafter and was done for the season. Afflalo provided excellent insurance for that team and coach Terry Stotts.

Those are just a couple examples that I can think of. And I'll tell you this, not all trades are the same. Additionally, it matters what caliber bench player we're talking about.

Don't confuse trading a first-round pick for Bazemore/Carroll with something like Flip Saunders, bless his soul, dealing a first-round pick for Adreian Payne. That isn't the same thing.

We know we can find good examples for just about any type of move. I think if you look back at that move for Afflalo you would say it was not worthwhile for a 1st round pick. 25 games of 10ppg (3 games with a total of 60 minutes in the playoffs) to lose in the first round of the playoffs for a 1st round pick? Lou Williams? Yes I think that was a pretty good move as they were an elite team AND he was signed for another year dirt cheap. Of course that deal actually looks even better now because now we basically know from even more games played he has taken his game to another level.

The problem with adding guys like Carrol and Bazemore isn't just giving up a 1st round pick it's also you have to pay those guys and you have to give up some of your depth in Dieng to do it. Yes Dieng is overpaid (so will the guy you get back) but he is a fringe starterish solid bench player himself. i'm Certainly not against moving him though. I don't think Carrol or Bazemore are guys that are actually good enough to put us over the top and I'm a fan of both guys. We probably don't agree there. That's ok. I think you know I respect where you are coming from.

[crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]]

Dieng and bazz to the bucks
Snell and maker to the wolves

Bucks get the best player and their starting center.
Wolves get a thibs guy off the bench and a reclamation project.

[thedoper]

Dieng and bazz to the bucks
Snell and maker to the wolves

Bucks get the best player and their starting center.
Wolves get a thibs guy off the bench and a reclamation project.

That is not too bad. We are definitely giving up the most productive piece here. You must be high on maker still? He certainly has length and is potentially more mobile than G. Snell would obviously have Thib's trust on the second unit.

[Monster]

Dieng and bazz to the bucks
Snell and maker to the wolves

Bucks get the best player and their starting center.
Wolves get a thibs guy off the bench and a reclamation project.

That is not too bad. We are definitely giving up the most productive piece here. You must be high on maker still? He certainly has length and is potentially more mobile than G. Snell would obviously have Thib's trust on the second unit.

There is simply no way the Bucks agree to that deal.

[Duke13]

I understand and appreciate the thinking of, "If it's not broken, don't fix it." I really do. The Wolves as currently constructed are rolling and are playing elite basketball -- there's just no other way to say it. They're 12-3 in their last 15 games going back to that gritty one-point victory against Portland to close a disappointing homestand, and in that period have the No. 1 ORtg, No. 7 DRtg, and the No. 1 Net Differential. That's how en fuego they've been.

However, I think we're choosing to ignore the need to improve our bench. For the season, our bench is a collective negative by almost every metric you can find and depending on where you look, they're ranked as low as 29th in basketball. I feel as good as anyone about where the Wolves are right now, but I understand that that's just unacceptable, especially in the post-season. And the main way to improve that, in my opinion, is to acquire another quality wing. I don't see myself wavering from this position, so, I expect this to be a good debate until the deadline passes.

I agree that we need to improve then bench, especially the need for a big wing. But, I don't think we need a guy that needs big minutes like a bazemore.

There just isn't enough minutes for another name guy. I'd much prefer a dudley or brewer type that can play spot minutes with the bench and can fill in starter minutes if needed.

You're probably right in that we perhaps don't need to make a move, we don't need to acquire a wing of Kent Bazemore's caliber. We could probably wait for [fill-in the blank] to get bought-out and sign him to play 10-15 MPG and hope he can not mess anything up.

I guess where I'm at is that I see this team being one aggressive move from being able to really make some noise in the second half of this season and into the post-season -- not just this year, but the next several.

Having a wing like Bazemore off the bench would be a luxury, I get that, but sometimes it's the little advantages that can determine a playoff series. Bolstering the backup wing spots with a player that's capable of starting in this league would be a big time advantage.

And I'll say this to counter what's been said already. The argument that there aren't enough minutes to justify making a move for Bazemore, or Carroll, isn't true. There are 96 minutes to be allocated at two positions. Assuming Butler and Wiggins roughly get a combined 70 of those right off the top, that leaves 25-ish to be had. The idea of using three wings garnering all those minutes isn't a new idea either.

The Hawks did it with Korver, Bazemore, and Sefalosha. The Warriors did it with Thompson, Barnes, and Iguodala, and now Thompson, Durant, and Iguodala.

And I know someone will mention it. "How are you going to allocate Jamal Crawford's minutes to another player?"

Like some others here, I'm not a fan of his style of basketball. I don't like the inefficiency he provides, the selfish chucker type game he has, or the lack of a well-rounded game a role player should have. If his jumper is off, he is worthless on the floor. I love his personality and whatever locker room leadership he provides, but it's true. And at 38-years old, I'm okay with making moves that don't account for him and his future here when we're talking about adding a vastly superior player roughly a decade younger than him.

Im repeating myself but he can get minutes in smaller lineups as well. Jimmy/Wig at the 4. Shit even cutting guys minutes a bit. He would be huge for this team. I hate trading that first round pick but for a player like that I think you'd have to.