sjm34 wrote:Can someone explain why we can't foul Jordan in the last two minutes off the ball or they call an intentional foul, but they fouled Neal off the ball and he only got two FT's?
Hack a DJ is intentional which is two and the ball. The foul on Neal wasn't intentional. To be honest it should be deemed intentional (2 + Ball) the whole game so teams can't use that tactic because it is terrible to watch and screeches the game to a halt.
Is it true they get the ball as well? The way I understood it is that within 2 minutes the clippers get to choose who shoots the 1st free throw, and deandre shoots the 2nd..
sjm34 wrote:Can someone explain why we can't foul Jordan in the last two minutes off the ball or they call an intentional foul, but they fouled Neal off the ball and he only got two FT's?
Hack a DJ is intentional which is two and the ball. The foul on Neal wasn't intentional. To be honest it should be deemed intentional (2 + Ball) the whole game so teams can't use that tactic because it is terrible to watch and screeches the game to a halt.
Is it true they get the ball as well? The way I understood it is that within 2 minutes the clippers get to choose who shoots the 1st free throw, and deandre shoots the 2nd..
I got the impression during the telecast from Jim Pete that within 2 min they get to choose who shoots both, but he didn't mention anything about them getting the ball on top of that.
Section X--Away-From-The-Play Foul
a. During the last two minutes of the fourth period or overtime period(s) with the offensive team in possession of the ball, all personal fouls which are assessed against the defensive team prior to the ball being released on a throw-in and/or away-from-the-play, shall be administered as follows:
(1) A personal foul and team foul shall be assessed and one free throw attempt shall be awarded. The free throw may be attempted by any play-er in the game at the time the personal foul was committed.
(2) If the foul occurs when the ball is inbounds, the offended team shall be awarded the ball at the nearest point where play was interrupted but no nearer to the baseline than the free throw line extended.
(3) If the foul occurs prior to the release on a throw-in, the offended team shall be awarded the ball at the original throw-in spot, with all privileges, if any, remaining.
Andy Greder ?@twolvesnow 11m11 minutes ago
In review, NBA says officials missed foul call on Andrew Wiggins with 1:20 left in Monday's #Twolves loss. Down four, he should had two FTs.
Andy Greder ?@twolvesnow 11m11 minutes ago
In review, NBA says officials missed foul call on Andrew Wiggins with 1:20 left in Monday's #Twolves loss. Down four, he should had two FTs.
Has the NBA ever reviewed and said the officials missed a foul call against the Wolves?
It's like the flop calls. How many star players have been warned about flopping over the years?
Andy Greder ?@twolvesnow 11m11 minutes ago
In review, NBA says officials missed foul call on Andrew Wiggins with 1:20 left in Monday's #Twolves loss. Down four, he should had two FTs.
Has the NBA ever reviewed and said the officials missed a foul call against the Wolves?
It's like the flop calls. How many star players have been warned about flopping over the years?
It's nice that they admit this and will for close games going forward, but until the refs are consistent with their calls, it means nothing since you can't go back and change the outcomes of games.
Andy Greder ?@twolvesnow 11m11 minutes ago
In review, NBA says officials missed foul call on Andrew Wiggins with 1:20 left in Monday's #Twolves loss. Down four, he should had two FTs.
Has the NBA ever reviewed and said the officials missed a foul call against the Wolves?
It's like the flop calls. How many star players have been warned about flopping over the years?
It's nice that they admit this and will for close games going forward, but until the refs are consistent with their calls, it means nothing since you can't go back and change the outcomes of games.
True, but this is great for small market teams. Even though the NBA wants to give the big market and big star teams some leeway at the end of games, officials are not going to want to see their names consistently mentioned with bad calls. It really is a good thing for fans of teams like ours.
You all realize the main reason they are doing this - the league is setting itself up for the inevitable partnership they will have with legalized gambling. Expect to see the names of casinos embossed on your favorite teams jersey in the future. They have to have total transparency in order to work with the gambling industry, and thus create another revenue stream for themselves.
I'm tired of hearing the apologies about missed calls. It doesn't change the mistake's impact and eventual result of the game. How about doing more to get better officiating. For instance, don't call a ticky tack foul on Rubio for brushing against Paul at mid-court during a fast break if you're not going to call Wiggins getting smacked on the wrist from behind by Hawes. Be consistent with what contact deserves a foul call. That's all I ask.
Cam, I hear what you're saying, and we'd all like to have better officiating...in all sports. But after complaining about it for too many years, I realize that it is what it is, and that bad calls are going to part of all sports.
Given that, I would rather have an official acknowledge a bad call than be silent. You're right...it's not going to change the outcome of past games. But it could have an impact on the future. You can be sure that ALL referees notice when an error is called out, and they likely notice the parties involved in the bad call. Referees knowing that Wigs has been screwed in the past can't be a bad thing. That, combined with his emerging star profile after the future's game, makes me confident that Wigs is going to be the beneficiary much more than the victim of bad calls most of the rest of his career.
longstrangetrip wrote:Cam, I hear what you're saying, and we'd all like to have better officiating...in all sports. But after complaining about it for two many years, I realize that it is what it is, and that bad calls are going to part of all sports.
Given that, I would rather have an official acknowledge a bad call than be silent. You're right...it's not going to change the outcome of past games. But it could have an impact on the future. You can be sure that ALL referees notice when an error is called out, and they likely notice the parties involved in the bad call. Referees knowing that Wigs has been screwed in the past can't be a bad thing. That, combined with his emerging star profile after the future's game, makes me confident that Wigs is going to be the beneficiary much more than the victim of bad calls most of the rest of his career.
I agree. It's only a matter of time with Wigs. We saw it with Kevin Love over the years where he increasingly got more and more calls. We see it now with Kevin Martin, and his are usually cheap fouls he manufactures himself. Wiggins gets legitimately hacked a lot more than Martin.
