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CoolBreeze44 wrote:
I rate him higher than you do, and I don't think what the Bulls or Cavs did is relevant. It will be fun to see how he develops over the course of the next 2 years. Really looking forward to seeing him in summer league.

I know you and a lot of people do. I expect him have a career closer to Troy Bell then what people are thinking.

Per Hoopshype: Bill Herenda: #Kings adding Corey Hawkins of #UCDavis to #NBA summer league roster according to league sources

(I wanted us to sign Corey, he was one of the best three point shooters in college and son of former NBA player Hersey Hawkins., but we are signing Brady Heslip)

Per Twitter--John Woo: source close to the situation, Kansas' Cliff Alexander has signed with the Brooklyn Nets. 6:40 AM - 27 Jun 201

Here is our list of the top players not to be drafted on Thursday night.

Atlanta Hawks

DeAndre Kane, small forward, Iowa State (possibly more)

Terran Petteway, small forward, Nebraska

Brandon Ashley, PF, Arizona

Boston Celtics

Royce O'Neale, forward, Baylor

Jonathan Holmes, forward, Texas

Malcolm Miller, SF, Holy Cross

Brooklyn Nets

Cliff Alexander, forward, Kansas (free-agent deal)

Ryan Boatright, PG, UConn (free-agent deal)

DeShawn Delaney, G, New Mexico

Ben Vozzola, SG, San Diego

Josh Gasser, PG, Wisconsin

Kendall Gray, C, Delaware State

Charlotte Hornets

Aaron Harrison, shooting guard, Kentucky

Ralston Turner, G/F, N.C. State

Chicago Bulls

Rayvonte Rice, SG, Illinois

Cleveland Cavaliers

Trevor Lacey, PG, NC State

Keifer Sykes, PG, UW-Green Bay (partially-guaranteed free-agent contract)

Quinn Cook, SG, Duke (Las Vegas only)

Dallas Mavericks

Kevin Pangos, PG, Gonzaga

Denver Nuggets

Darius Carter, PF, Wichita State

Detroit Pistons

Julian Washburn, guard/forward, UTEP (Orlando Summer League)

Golden State Warriors

Michael Frazier, shooting guard, Florida

Matt Stainbrook, center, Xavier

Julian Washburn, guard/forward, UTEP (Las Vegas Summer League)

Chasson Randle, PG, Stanford

Johnny Dee, PG, San Diego

Stefan Nastic, C, Stanford

LaDonte Henton, SF, Providence

Houston Rockets

Denzel Livingston, point guard, Incarnate Word

Christian Wood, power forward, UNLV

Will Cummings, G, Temple (free-agent deal)

Indiana Pacers


Matt Stainbrook, center, Xavier (ORL Summer League only)

Jon Octeus, SG, Purdue

DaVonte Lacy, G, Washington State


Los Angeles Clippers

D.J. Newbill, SG, Penn State

Yanick Moreira, C, SMU

Los Angeles Lakers

Robert Upshaw, center, Washington

Memphis Grizzlies

Rashad Madden, SF, Arkansas

Michael Holyfield, C, Sam Houston State

Miami Heat

Willie Reed, center, Iowa Energy

Seth Tuttle, power forward, Northern Iowa

Travis Trice, PG, Michigan State

Joshua Smith, C, Georgetown

Gabriel Olaseni, C, Iowa

Tyler Kalinoski, G, Davidson

Bradford Burgess, G/F, VCU

New Orleans Pelicans

Jay Hook, SG, Tulane

Bryce Dejean-Jones, SF, Iowa State

New York Knicks

Maurice Ndour, F, Ohio

Oklahoma City Thunder

Quinn Cook, point guard, Duke (Orlando only)

Mike Cobbins, PF, Oklahoma State

Orlando Magic

Youssou Ndoye, center, St. Bonaventure (ORL Summer League only)

Jabril Trawick, SG, Georgetown

TaShawn Thomas, F, Oklahoma

Jordan Sibert, SG, Dayton

Scottie Wilbeken, PG, Florida

Philadelphia 76ers

K.T. Harrell, shooting guard, Auburn

Vince Hunter, power forward, UTEP

Jamal Jones, small forward, Texas A&M

T.J. McConnell, PG, Arizona (partially-guaranteed free-agent deal)

Sam Thompson, PF, Ohio State

Jamal Jones, F, D-League

Charles Jackson, C, Tennessee Tech

Sacramento Kings

Corey Hawkins, G, UC-Davis

Juwan Staten, PG, West Virginia

Shaquielle McKissic, F, Arizona State

Duje Dukan, PF, Wisconsin

San Antonio Spurs

Wayne Blackshear, small forward, Louisville

Treveon Graham, shooting guard, VCU

Shannon Scott, PG, Ohio State

Youssou Ndoye, C, St. Bonaventure (Las Vegas only)

Darion Atkins, PF, Virginia

Toronto Raptors

Phil Greene, PG, St. John's

Michale Kyser, PF, Louisiana Tech

Utah Jazz

Wesley Saunders, shooting guard, Harvard

J.J. O'Brien, F, San Diego State

Washington Wizards

Dez Wells, shooting guard, Maryland (possibly more than Summer League)

Traveon Jackson, PG, Wisconsin

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/6/26/8850787/nba-best-undrafted-free-agents-summer-league

bleedspeed177 wrote:Cool - I'm trying to be realistic and not wear my homer glasses. I don't see Jones playing much on a contender and I don't think the Bulls or Cavs did either or they would have drafted and kept him since both need backup PG's. My expectations is he would come in and be a game manager and not turn the ball over. Only problem with that is think he will be a turnstile on defense. My hope is he can show the ability to get to the line at a similar rate as he did in college. That will be key for him in having an NBA career in my opinion. I would say his ceiling is Luke Ridnour.

I don't have great expectations of him, a solid back up but the team is going to take a hit if Rubio goes down. On the other hand the Bulls and Cavs are both contenders today, they don't want a rookie backup IMO so to me their passing over Jones doesn't mean much.

I don't understand the thought process behind not reaching out to Undrafted Rookies and signing a couple that may be potential 13-15 roster spots. The Wolves have signed Zero. While LA has both Upshaw and Ashley. Both are talented...and the Lakers have no obligation to them if I'm understand the process. Why not go after a couple who may be dLeague or potential prospects.

Weird is all!

slimcalhoun27 wrote:I don't understand the thought process behind not reaching out to Undrafted Rookies and signing a couple that may be potential 13-15 roster spots. The Wolves have signed Zero. While LA has both Upshaw and Ashley. Both are talented...and the Lakers have no obligation to them if I'm understand the process. Why not go after a couple who may be dLeague or potential prospects.

Weird is all!

I think it's a tough sell all around because the wolves basically have no roster spots and already a really young team. In simple contrast a team like the Lakers has plenty of opportunity right now. In addition the Wolves don't have their own d-league team like some of these other teams so that probably makes it less likely to go too hard after guys also.

Weird? We have so many young guys that our Summer League roster is closer to being filled out than most of those teams that have picked up unsigned rookies. I view this as completely irrelevant!

60WinTim wrote:Weird? We have so many young guys that our Summer League roster is closer to being filled out than most of those teams that have picked up unsigned rookies. I view this as completely irrelevant!

Yes weird, I personally do not believe in the mantra of "since I have enough" I won't continue to find a better option. Now, I admit I am not familiar with all the details, but is Hummel, Hamilton, spot for Neal and I would say Brown are better then a possible dude who simply slipped in the draft? That's my reasoning for Weird. Youth is youth, but talent is talent IMO

I like the roster, but we still need to better the roster every year to compete in the west.

slimcalhoun27 wrote:

60WinTim wrote:Weird? We have so many young guys that our Summer League roster is closer to being filled out than most of those teams that have picked up unsigned rookies. I view this as completely irrelevant!

Yes weird, I personally do not believe in the mantra of "since I have enough" I won't continue to find a better option. Now, I admit I am not familiar with all the details, but is Hummel, Hamilton, spot for Neal and I would say Brown are better then a possible dude who simply slipped in the draft? That's my reasoning for Weird. Youth is youth, but talent is talent IMO

I like the roster, but we still need to better the roster every year to compete in the west.

I think monster nailed it...these guys all have agents who know which teams have the most open roster spots, and the Wolves are not currently on that list. I'm sure Milt/Flip reached out to a couple guys for SL, but their agents steered them in a different direction.