Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Saying that any coach could have yielded the results Thibodeau got in Chicago, especially through the storm of injuries that team was plagued with, is a different kind of bizarre. You realize the guy won a playoff series against Brooklyn with Nate Robinson arguably being the team's best player, right? Holy moly, the level of delusion in that post is too much for me tonight.

I will continue to enjoy tonight's win and I wish you the same.

[TheFuture]

Saying that any coach could have yielded the results Thibodeau got in Chicago, especially through the storm of injuries that team was plagued with, is a different kind of bizarre. You realize the guy won a playoff series against Brooklyn with Nate Robinson arguably being the team's best player, right? Holy moly, the level of delusion in that post is too much for me tonight.

I will continue to enjoy tonight's win and I wish you the same.

I never stated that any coach could've achieved such, only that many seem to give Thibs way too much credit for what he has done - ala stating he is an elite coach. Which he isn't.

That Brooklyn team was exceptional too, right?

"Lalalala I can't hear you" is a good approach though..

[kekgeek]

Saying that any coach could have yielded the results Thibodeau got in Chicago, especially through the storm of injuries that team was plagued with, is a different kind of bizarre. You realize the guy won a playoff series against Brooklyn with Nate Robinson arguably being the team's best player, right? Holy moly, the level of delusion in that post is too much for me tonight.

I will continue to enjoy tonight's win and I wish you the same.

Yep. This is what annoys me about the board and mostly why I have been it is a players league. And not a coaches league.

I hate on this board that we blame player or coach X for losses but give them no credit for when they win.

Have I enjoyed watching thibs coach, not really, but at the end of the day we have the 3rd best start in franchise history and would be hosting a playoff series and he should get credit for it.

With the Bulls he lead a super young team (like this year's Celtics) to a lot of playoff success and he should also get credit for that.

I'm with you Cam

[AbeVigodaLive]

I thought Thibodeau did a good to very good job in Chicago... that team won playoff series even amid all those injuries. Coming from a franchise that has only won a playoff series ONE year out of 29... I don't think that should be taken lightly just because of personal animosity towards the yelling fat guy on the sidelines.

I'm definitely not alone in my assessment by the way. Thibs reputation around the league at the time of the Wolves hire was pretty damn high.

Has it slipped? Perhaps. But that's a different discussion. You're losing any argument trying to denigrate his stint in Chicago.

[kekgeek]

Saying that any coach could have yielded the results Thibodeau got in Chicago, especially through the storm of injuries that team was plagued with, is a different kind of bizarre. You realize the guy won a playoff series against Brooklyn with Nate Robinson arguably being the team's best player, right? Holy moly, the level of delusion in that post is too much for me tonight.

I will continue to enjoy tonight's win and I wish you the same.

I never stated that any coach could've achieved such, only that many seem to give Thibs way too much credit for what he has done - ala stating he is an elite coach. Which he isn't.

That Brooklyn team was exceptional too, right?

"Lalalala I can't hear you" is a good approach though..

He turned a young team into a winning team. And then his MVP got hurt and changed everything. Are the heat winning championships if LBJ tears his ACL doubt it.

Dantoni must suck then as a coach because he could win with the Suns but was terrible with the Knicks and Lakers. Then good again with the Rockets now. A lot has to do with fit.

The wolves are a 4 seed with 2 of there 3 most talented players on there rookie deals still. I know it can be hard to watch and some games are super frustrating but we would host a playoff series

[Monster]

I can't remember who it was but they were talking to Eric Musselman about Thibs and he said people have him all wrong as a stubborn guy that doesn't do anything new. He said Thibs has an open mind and will talk basketball to anyone and is ALWAYS looking for something new.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Saying that any coach could have yielded the results Thibodeau got in Chicago, especially through the storm of injuries that team was plagued with, is a different kind of bizarre. You realize the guy won a playoff series against Brooklyn with Nate Robinson arguably being the team's best player, right? Holy moly, the level of delusion in that post is too much for me tonight.

I will continue to enjoy tonight's win and I wish you the same.

I never stated that any coach could've achieved such, only that many seem to give Thibs way too much credit for what he has done - ala stating he is an elite coach. Which he isn't.

That Brooklyn team was exceptional too, right?

"Lalalala I can't hear you" is a good approach though..

Your argument is essentially, "Hmph! He got lucky!"

Excuse me if I don't find the need to go further into this debate when your reasoning is oh so intellectual. I'll leave you with this, however. The guy has won 303 games out of 503. That's a career win percentage of 60%. I'm not mathematician, but that's hovering around elite category. In the NBA today, how many established head coaches would you even *consider* taking before him? Popovich, Carlisle, Stevens, Kerr, D'Antoni, Van Gundy, Spoelstra, Stotts, Snyder? I'm really reaching with this list and I can't find ten concrete names that are in that discussion.

The Thibs detractors live on.

[kekgeek]

I can't remember who it was but they were talking to Eric Musselman about Thibs and he said people have him all wrong as a stubborn guy that doesn't do anything new. He said Thibs has an open mind and will talk basketball to anyone and is ALWAYS looking for something new.

I wish he would experiment more with lineups. Teague and Tyus have play a grand total of 0 minutes together this year. We did go back to the small lineup late tonight. What had success for the 1st time this year.

The one thing I do think Thibs has learned is practice. From all the reports practice is a lot lighter and he gives guys a lot more days off. He still plays them a lot of minutes (discussion that will be talked about all year) but from reports has taken big steps on the days off

[Monster]

I can't remember who it was but they were talking to Eric Musselman about Thibs and he said people have him all wrong as a stubborn guy that doesn't do anything new. He said Thibs has an open mind and will talk basketball to anyone and is ALWAYS looking for something new.

I wish he would experiment more with lineups. Teague and Tyus have play a grand total of 0 minutes together this year. We did go back to the small lineup late tonight. What had success for the 1st time this year.

The one thing I do think Thibs has learned is practice. From all the reports practice is a lot lighter and he gives guys a lot more days off. He still plays them a lot of minutes (discussion that will be talked about all year) but from reports has taken big steps on the days off

Like I said earlier today somewhere on this board Crawford is the guy that probably keeps that Tyus Teague thing from happening...so far. Its nice to have some real ball handling guards on the team for once. Now about that other wing...thats been part of the problem about us going small and not having Belly either. Its hard to go small when you are basically just playing 2 wings and Crawford. There isn't time to play minutes at PF plus Taj has just been so damn good how do you take him off the floor?

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Chicago wins their 6th straight; Dunn leading the way with 22 points. I'm not sure I've seen a team that started off so poorly over quite a long stretch reel off six straight like this. It would almost be like Philly or Brooklyn winning six straight a couple years ago. Just totally unexpected.

Let's not forget Miami last season.

10 - 31... and then they won 13 straight games.

Ah, good catch. Yeah, that was crazy!