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BizarroJerry wrote:No bogut, no more bigs please.
TeamRicky wrote:60WinTim wrote:I doubt they are moving Iggy...
They will try to move Bogut first. There are reported to be three teams that have inquired about Bogut.
If they would take Payne for Bogut, I'd have to at least consider it. That would cost us 9M and we'd still have two open roster spots which we could focus on shooters. Bogut comes off books next year so he wouldn't hamstring us.
60WinTim wrote:I doubt they are moving Iggy...
longstrangetrip wrote:TeamRicky wrote:60WinTim wrote:I doubt they are moving Iggy...
They will try to move Bogut first. There are reported to be three teams that have inquired about Bogut.
If they would take Payne for Bogut, I'd have to at least consider it. That would cost us 9M and we'd still have two open roster spots which we could focus on shooters. Bogut comes off books next year so he wouldn't hamstring us.
60WinTim wrote:I doubt they are moving Iggy...
Maybe, they can find a way, but it's going to be tough. Bogut has to go, of course. But if they keep Klay, Green, Curry, Iggy, Livingston, Looney, McCaw and Thompson, they have $64 million tied up in those 8 players...that's only $30 million of cap space, right? And I think $28.2 (.3 X 94) goes to KD as his max. Can they sign another 6 players without exceeding the cap?
Maybe they can do it like this. They could offer a minimum contract to some meaningless player, and then still have just barely enough room to sign KD, I think they can then go over the cap by signing the 5 players whose rights they own (Ezeli, Barbosa, Clark, McAdoo and Rush). But depending how much those 5 cost them, they may find themselves paying lux tax.
Maybe they keep Iggy, but the numbers work a lot easier if they don't. I hope Leydon has already offered Payne for Iggy.
TeamRicky wrote:Unfortunately, it looks like Golden State can keep Iggy and it looks like Dallas will take Bogut along with Barnes. Now Dallas has shot their wad and we actually have the most cap space of playoff contending teams (only Philly and Brooklyn have more space). We can aim high on the remaining shooter list.
lipoli390 wrote:I think Thibs and Layden have ended up in a good place so far with Dunn and Aldrich. Now they'll likely add another 2nd or 3rd tier free agent. We'll see who that is soon.
Based on reports, they pursued Deng and Gasol. Not sure whether we were unwilling to meet their price or whether those 2 players had other reasons for not signing with the Wolves. I hope it was the money in which case I'd respect Thibs and Scott for setting their parameters and sticking to them. However, if it wasn't the money then I'm a bit concerned.
Regarding Luol Deng, it would mean that Deng chose a less talented team and first time head coach he's never played for over a better, more talented team with a head coach he played for and had success with for years. It would rekindle my initial fear that players don't like playing for Thibs.
Regarding Gasol, I would understand if the Spurs and even the Raptors were the only 2 remaining teams he was considering. But apparently he's still considering the Blazers. They surprised everyone last season, but they don't have the talent the Wolves have. Again, if it wasn't the money, I'm concerned about another former Thibs player rejecting another chance to play for him on what Thibs and most respected analysts consider the most talented young tesm in the League. And the Wolves also have Gasol's friend and fellow-Spaniard on he roster.
I'm not jumping to any conclusions. Just wondering.
TeamRicky wrote:longstrangetrip wrote:TeamRicky wrote:60WinTim wrote:I doubt they are moving Iggy...
They will try to move Bogut first. There are reported to be three teams that have inquired about Bogut.
If they would take Payne for Bogut, I'd have to at least consider it. That would cost us 9M and we'd still have two open roster spots which we could focus on shooters. Bogut comes off books next year so he wouldn't hamstring us.
60WinTim wrote:I doubt they are moving Iggy...
Maybe, they can find a way, but it's going to be tough. Bogut has to go, of course. But if they keep Klay, Green, Curry, Iggy, Livingston, Looney, McCaw and Thompson, they have $64 million tied up in those 8 players...that's only $30 million of cap space, right? And I think $28.2 (.3 X 94) goes to KD as his max. Can they sign another 6 players without exceeding the cap?
Maybe they can do it like this. They could offer a minimum contract to some meaningless player, and then still have just barely enough room to sign KD, I think they can then go over the cap by signing the 5 players whose rights they own (Ezeli, Barbosa, Clark, McAdoo and Rush). But depending how much those 5 cost them, they may find themselves paying lux tax.
Maybe they keep Iggy, but the numbers work a lot easier if they don't. I hope Leydon has already offered Payne for Iggy.
Woj linked the GS salary cap situation to this http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/gsw/salary/site which lists KD's salary as $26.5M
longstrangetrip wrote:TeamRicky wrote:longstrangetrip wrote:TeamRicky wrote:60WinTim wrote:I doubt they are moving Iggy...
They will try to move Bogut first. There are reported to be three teams that have inquired about Bogut.
If they would take Payne for Bogut, I'd have to at least consider it. That would cost us 9M and we'd still have two open roster spots which we could focus on shooters. Bogut comes off books next year so he wouldn't hamstring us.
60WinTim wrote:I doubt they are moving Iggy...
Maybe, they can find a way, but it's going to be tough. Bogut has to go, of course. But if they keep Klay, Green, Curry, Iggy, Livingston, Looney, McCaw and Thompson, they have $64 million tied up in those 8 players...that's only $30 million of cap space, right? And I think $28.2 (.3 X 94) goes to KD as his max. Can they sign another 6 players without exceeding the cap?
Maybe they can do it like this. They could offer a minimum contract to some meaningless player, and then still have just barely enough room to sign KD, I think they can then go over the cap by signing the 5 players whose rights they own (Ezeli, Barbosa, Clark, McAdoo and Rush). But depending how much those 5 cost them, they may find themselves paying lux tax.
Maybe they keep Iggy, but the numbers work a lot easier if they don't. I hope Leydon has already offered Payne for Iggy.
Woj linked the GS salary cap situation to this http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/gsw/salary/site which lists KD's salary as $26.5M
Hmm...don't 10-year players get 30% of the cap for their max? Is KD taking less than the max?