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longstrangetrip wrote:So. with Harden, Paul, Butler and Capella, Houston may be a top 4 team through at least 2023...so we're looking at 3 very late first round picks plus the chance of a good pick in 2025 (assuming a couple of those guys are gone by then). Combine that with how awful we are going to be for at least 2 years with Butler gone, and I have a difficult time getting excited about this offer. This team will look like the Wolves we watched in preseason this year, and that just might drive a few of us away. I'm still in the camp of waiting until we get a better offer. Late first round picks just don't do much for me.
longstrangetrip wrote:So. with Harden, Paul, Butler and Capella, Houston may be a top 4 team through at least 2023...so we're looking at 3 very late first round picks plus the chance of a good pick in 2025 (assuming a couple of those guys are gone by then). Combine that with how awful we are going to be for at least 2 years with Butler gone, and I have a difficult time getting excited about this offer. This team will look like the Wolves we watched in preseason this year, and that just might drive a few of us away. I'm still in the camp of waiting until we get a better offer. Late first round picks just don't do much for me.
lipoli390 wrote:MikeAz wrote:I'm not too sure Thibs would be too excited about adding Knight, Chriss and 4 draft picks he may never coach. Best outcome may be that it makes someone else (Heat?) up their offer. What happens if the NBA changes the draft too as has been rumored?
I agree with your take on what Thibs likely things of their reported Houston offer. I do believe this should push Miami to improve their prior offer. I just don't see Pat Riley passing on the opportunity to get Buter. He's too competitive and his team is stuck in the bottom half of the Eastern Conference playoff picture with no realistic chance of freeing up cap space the next two years and their 2020 first round pick already traded. As always, the question is how far Riley will go and what package from Miami would make the most sense for the Wolves. Previously, I was dead set against taking back Whiteside in a Miami deal. But I've change my mind on that. I could get excited about a deal that landed Richardson, Whiteside and Miami's 2019 pick (even if lottery protected). I like the idea of having Whiteside's length and interior presence next to KAT. I would suspect our outgoing package would consist of Butler and Gorgui.
longstrangetrip wrote:So. with Harden, Paul, Butler and Capella, Houston may be a top 4 team through at least 2023...so we're looking at 3 very late first round picks plus the chance of a good pick in 2025 (assuming a couple of those guys are gone by then). Combine that with how awful we are going to be for at least 2 years with Butler gone, and I have a difficult time getting excited about this offer. This team will look like the Wolves we watched in preseason this year, and that just might drive a few of us away. I'm still in the camp of waiting until we get a better offer. Late first round picks just don't do much for me.
monsterpile wrote:lipoli390 wrote:MikeAz wrote:I'm not too sure Thibs would be too excited about adding Knight, Chriss and 4 draft picks he may never coach. Best outcome may be that it makes someone else (Heat?) up their offer. What happens if the NBA changes the draft too as has been rumored?
I agree with your take on what Thibs likely things of their reported Houston offer. I do believe this should push Miami to improve their prior offer. I just don't see Pat Riley passing on the opportunity to get Buter. He's too competitive and his team is stuck in the bottom half of the Eastern Conference playoff picture with no realistic chance of freeing up cap space the next two years and their 2020 first round pick already traded. As always, the question is how far Riley will go and what package from Miami would make the most sense for the Wolves. Previously, I was dead set against taking back Whiteside in a Miami deal. But I've change my mind on that. I could get excited about a deal that landed Richardson, Whiteside and Miami's 2019 pick (even if lottery protected). I like the idea of having Whiteside's length and interior presence next to KAT. I would suspect our outgoing package would consist of Butler and Gorgui.
IF....this Houston offer is legit I personally would be asking for at least another asset from Miami in this deal that you proposed.
thedoper wrote:longstrangetrip wrote:So. with Harden, Paul, Butler and Capella, Houston may be a top 4 team through at least 2023...so we're looking at 3 very late first round picks plus the chance of a good pick in 2025 (assuming a couple of those guys are gone by then). Combine that with how awful we are going to be for at least 2 years with Butler gone, and I have a difficult time getting excited about this offer. This team will look like the Wolves we watched in preseason this year, and that just might drive a few of us away. I'm still in the camp of waiting until we get a better offer. Late first round picks just don't do much for me.
I don't see Paul being great for that long, and between him and Butler the injury risk is huge. This is about salary flexibility for us and a nice array of assets to include in other deals. Not a top 5 pick but this whole thing could be a disaster for Houston.
longstrangetrip wrote:So. with Harden, Paul, Butler and Capella, Houston may be a top 4 team through at least 2023...so we're looking at 3 very late first round picks plus the chance of a good pick in 2025 (assuming a couple of those guys are gone by then). Combine that with how awful we are going to be for at least 2 years with Butler gone, and I have a difficult time getting excited about this offer. This team will look like the Wolves we watched in preseason this year, and that just might drive a few of us away. I'm still in the camp of waiting until we get a better offer. Late first round picks just don't do much for me.