CoolBreeze44 wrote:We are not competing for a title this season. Sure it would be great, but Ant isn't ready for that yet, and therefore the team isn't. Naz needs to go for the best deal we can get.
We do match up really well against the top 2 teams in the west Denver and Memphis. Do we compete for a title this year, more than likely not, but it is a pretty a jumbled year where I feel we can beat the best teams, and lose to the worst teams when they lose focus. I consider this season to be a success if we make it the 2nd round, if we miss the playoffs or lose the play in games, I would consider this season a failure. If the best we can get for Naz is a late 2nd round pick, it's not worth it to me to trade him. If we can get something of actual value for Naz, I would take a look at it.
As I've said over and over again since it happened, the Rudy trade was horrendous. I'm not a big Dlo fan, but that trade for Dlo on a max contract was nothing compared to the Rudy trade. That trade brought me from never missing a minute of a game, to watching roughly half the games now... my point is that I don't really care what moves they make at the trade deadline, because it's essentially comparable to shifting chairs on the titanic :) I think I'm a pretty objective person, so I'll admit that I think the slo mo and Garza signings were both great, but that trade is just unforgivable and probably the worst trade in nba history. I think TC probably should have been instantly fired after getting fleeced by Ainge, but after seeing just how bad the trade has been, definitely fired by now. So yeah, I really don't care, but if I was taking over for TC, I'd probably just stand pat at the trade deadline, unless someone has unexpected trade value that most of don't realize.
This Substack was the first to report that the Clippers are seeking to upgrade both their frontcourt and backcourt and before the deadline. I've heard two new names that the Clippers have been monitoring for those respective searches: Dallas' Christian Wood and Minnesota's D'Angelo Russell.
Source: Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com
This Substack was the first to report that the Clippers are seeking to upgrade both their frontcourt and backcourt and before the deadline. I've heard two new names that the Clippers have been monitoring for those respective searches: Dallas' Christian Wood and Minnesota's D'Angelo Russell.
Source: Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com
D-Loser wrote:As I've said over and over again since it happened, the Rudy trade was horrendous. I'm not a big Dlo fan, but that trade for Dlo on a max contract was nothing compared to the Rudy trade. That trade brought me from never missing a minute of a game, to watching roughly half the games now... my point is that I don't really care what moves they make at the trade deadline, because it's essentially comparable to shifting chairs on the titanic :) I think I'm a pretty objective person, so I'll admit that I think the slo mo and Garza signings were both great, but that trade is just unforgivable and probably the worst trade in nba history. I think TC probably should have been instantly fired after getting fleeced by Ainge, but after seeing just how bad the trade has been, definitely fired by now. So yeah, I really don't care, but if I was taking over for TC, I'd probably just stand pat at the trade deadline, unless someone has unexpected trade value that most of don't realize.
I'm in the same boat. The Rudy trade isn't bad just because of the assets given up, but also because of the bind it has put the team in for extensions.
Without that trade, there isn't a big issue extending D'Lo and Naz. There wouldn't be the looming idea of what happens when Ant and Jaden are also due soon. Or what you're going to do with Gobert even on an expiring, because you'll need assets to get off that contract or he walks and you are capped and can't do much of anything with that expired 40 some million. It was so short-sighted all around.
D-Loser wrote:As I've said over and over again since it happened, the Rudy trade was horrendous. I'm not a big Dlo fan, but that trade for Dlo on a max contract was nothing compared to the Rudy trade. That trade brought me from never missing a minute of a game, to watching roughly half the games now... my point is that I don't really care what moves they make at the trade deadline, because it's essentially comparable to shifting chairs on the titanic :) I think I'm a pretty objective person, so I'll admit that I think the slo mo and Garza signings were both great, but that trade is just unforgivable and probably the worst trade in nba history. I think TC probably should have been instantly fired after getting fleeced by Ainge, but after seeing just how bad the trade has been, definitely fired by now. So yeah, I really don't care, but if I was taking over for TC, I'd probably just stand pat at the trade deadline, unless someone has unexpected trade value that most of don't realize.
I'm in the same boat. The Rudy trade isn't bad just because of the assets given up, but also because of the bind it has put the team in for extensions.
Without that trade, there isn't a big issue extending D'Lo and Naz. There wouldn't be the looming idea of what happens when Ant and Jaden are also due soon. Or what you're going to do with Gobert even on an expiring, because you'll need assets to get off that contract or he walks and you are capped and can't do much of anything with that expired 40 some million. It was so short-sighted all around.
I think it is safe to say that Connelly and Co knew that they would max Ant when they made the trade. They also refused to include Jaden so they had planned to extend him. So Gobert didn't change the calculus there.
Before the trade, one thought was the Wolves could let DLo expire this summer and possibly have max salary slot to offer someone which precludes extending him. So if you look at it as is, it is possible to have both Gobert in that cap space slot and DLo extended or traded for a different piece, which may happen. Is there a pending free agent that does more for the team than a combo of Rudy and DLo? The options aren't great. As for Naz, it's great that he has elevated himself but I don't recall people shedding tears about him at the time.
The Wolves decided to operate over the cap which isn't the worst idea for this market. Having tradeable salary when Ant and Jaden are soaking up a ton of cap in a few years could be valuable.
I could see a 4 team trade in the making where the key moving parts are Westbrook to the Jazz, Irving to the Lakers, Dlo to the Nets, and Conely to the Wolves. Add in the fillers needed to make every one happy and off we go!
60WinTim wrote:I could see a 4 team trade in the making where the key moving parts are Westbrook to the Jazz, Irving to the Lakers, Dlo to the Nets, and Conely to the Wolves. Add in the fillers needed to make every one happy and off we go!
We would be getting dealt the green weenie on that deal Doug. I read the Clippers have made a substantial offer for Irving.
This Substack was the first to report that the Clippers are seeking to upgrade both their frontcourt and backcourt and before the deadline. I've heard two new names that the Clippers have been monitoring for those respective searches: Dallas' Christian Wood and Minnesota's D'Angelo Russell.
Source: Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com
I like hearing that the Clippers are interested in Russell, but who would they be willing to give us back who could help us this season. Would they give up Kennard and Powell? Or would TC be more interested in picks?
