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Camden0916 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:Let's throw out another option for a young player to possibly acquire.

What would you give up for Moses Brown? He was very productive last year and maybe he isn't legit but watching some highlights he is literally behind and reaching over Embiid and getting rebounds and tips. He is 7'1.25" tall without shoes and has a 7'4.75" wingspan. That's a big dude. He is signed for basically the vet min for the next 3 years so that could be an cheap contract if he is a nice player. I haven't seen him play enough to say I would give up a lottery protected first to get him but honestly I'm tempted to do so partly because of that value contract.


I'd love to have Moses Brown and I identified him a month ago as a prime target big for the Wolves. Unfortunately, the Mavs recently traded for him in exchange for Josh Richardson. So I don't see the Wolves acquiring him at this point. But as Q has mentioned a number of times, the Mavs now have a surplus of bigs after acquiring Brown. They actually had a surplus before acquiring Brown. So I suspect the Wolves could probably trade for one of their other bigs. But I don't see the Mavs parting with Brown. He was obviously a key part of the Richardson deal for all the reasons you mentioned, which are the same reasons I wanted to trade for him. I thought we might be able to work a deal for with with Rubio as part of our outgoing package. But alas...


I'm sure the Mavericks value Moses Brown just like we do, but they were well set in the frontcourt prior to that trade. A big part of that Josh Richardson trade was to shed his salary and get a $10.9 million trade exception. I would assume that Dallas will try to acquire Goran Dragic from Toronto before the season begins. Perhaps that could also be an opportunity for Minnesota to try and help facilitate a deal.


Personally I see 3 NBA teams that don't really value Moses Brown that highly. OKC let him go for what a Celtics 1st round pick? Dallas got him for a year of Josh Richardson...meh. Maybe Dallas has him and is THRILLED which is possible but I'm not convinced. I don't think they are giving him up for not a whole lot but I haven't gotten the sense they are holding onto him it's almost like he is another asset. The last I read about the Dragic thing for the amass was they weren't going to give up anything of significant value because they think Dragic may end up just going the buyout route and they can get him that way. That was a couple weeks ago though.
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Camden0916 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:Let's throw out another option for a young player to possibly acquire.

What would you give up for Moses Brown? He was very productive last year and maybe he isn't legit but watching some highlights he is literally behind and reaching over Embiid and getting rebounds and tips. He is 7'1.25" tall without shoes and has a 7'4.75" wingspan. That's a big dude. He is signed for basically the vet min for the next 3 years so that could be an cheap contract if he is a nice player. I haven't seen him play enough to say I would give up a lottery protected first to get him but honestly I'm tempted to do so partly because of that value contract.


I'm a Moses Brown believer. He was on a shortlist of young defensive-minded bigs that I thought would be good trade targets. He's long, athletic, mobile, and as you said, he's locked into a very team-friendly deal.

I'll answer your question by asking another question. If you were the decision-maker for another franchise, what would you be willing to trade for Naz Reid? Their contracts make it that much more difficult, although not impossible, and they're clearly productive in some capacity. I'd have to think a first-round pick is the asking price for Reid unless included in a bigger deal. My assessment would be that Brown is similarly valued. I wonder if Jaylen Nowell would interest Dallas considering they're thinner in the backcourt than they are in the frontcourt.


That's a good question Cam. I agree I don't think I trade Naz for anything less than a 1st rounder either. Here is another question...would you trade Naz for Moses Brown? I'm not sure why Dallas would consider that but would you do it? I would want to be more familiar with Brown's game before I pulled the trigger as I really like Naz.
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monsterpile wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:Let's throw out another option for a young player to possibly acquire.

What would you give up for Moses Brown? He was very productive last year and maybe he isn't legit but watching some highlights he is literally behind and reaching over Embiid and getting rebounds and tips. He is 7'1.25" tall without shoes and has a 7'4.75" wingspan. That's a big dude. He is signed for basically the vet min for the next 3 years so that could be an cheap contract if he is a nice player. I haven't seen him play enough to say I would give up a lottery protected first to get him but honestly I'm tempted to do so partly because of that value contract.


I'm a Moses Brown believer. He was on a shortlist of young defensive-minded bigs that I thought would be good trade targets. He's long, athletic, mobile, and as you said, he's locked into a very team-friendly deal.

I'll answer your question by asking another question. If you were the decision-maker for another franchise, what would you be willing to trade for Naz Reid? Their contracts make it that much more difficult, although not impossible, and they're clearly productive in some capacity. I'd have to think a first-round pick is the asking price for Reid unless included in a bigger deal. My assessment would be that Brown is similarly valued. I wonder if Jaylen Nowell would interest Dallas considering they're thinner in the backcourt than they are in the frontcourt.


That's a good question Cam. I agree I don't think I trade Naz for anything less than a 1st rounder either. Here is another question...would you trade Naz for Moses Brown? I'm not sure why Dallas would consider that but would you do it? I would want to be more familiar with Brown's game before I pulled the trigger as I really like Naz.


Dallas would absolutely trade Moses Brown for Naz Reid - in a heartbeat. The only question is whether the Wolves should make the offer. My answer is no. I'm intrigued by Moses Brown and have been high on him for a while, but Naz has shown a lot more game so far in his career and still has a lot of upside left. Would Dallas swap Brown for Jake Layman? I'd like to think so, but I doubt it. Jake and a future 2nd-round pick? Maybe that would be enough for Dallas. If so, I'd pull the trigger on that if I were Rosas. Cam suggested that Dallas might be interested in Nowell. I can see that. Would the Mavs swap Brown for Jaylen? I think so. Should Rosas make that deal if it's available? I'm not sure. I'm still high on Nowell. I'd rather sign Hartenstein as a free agent than give up Nowell to get Moses Brown.
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monsterpile wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:Let's throw out another option for a young player to possibly acquire.

What would you give up for Moses Brown? He was very productive last year and maybe he isn't legit but watching some highlights he is literally behind and reaching over Embiid and getting rebounds and tips. He is 7'1.25" tall without shoes and has a 7'4.75" wingspan. That's a big dude. He is signed for basically the vet min for the next 3 years so that could be an cheap contract if he is a nice player. I haven't seen him play enough to say I would give up a lottery protected first to get him but honestly I'm tempted to do so partly because of that value contract.


I'm a Moses Brown believer. He was on a shortlist of young defensive-minded bigs that I thought would be good trade targets. He's long, athletic, mobile, and as you said, he's locked into a very team-friendly deal.

I'll answer your question by asking another question. If you were the decision-maker for another franchise, what would you be willing to trade for Naz Reid? Their contracts make it that much more difficult, although not impossible, and they're clearly productive in some capacity. I'd have to think a first-round pick is the asking price for Reid unless included in a bigger deal. My assessment would be that Brown is similarly valued. I wonder if Jaylen Nowell would interest Dallas considering they're thinner in the backcourt than they are in the frontcourt.


That's a good question Cam. I agree I don't think I trade Naz for anything less than a 1st rounder either. Here is another question...would you trade Naz for Moses Brown? I'm not sure why Dallas would consider that but would you do it? I would want to be more familiar with Brown's game before I pulled the trigger as I really like Naz.


Personally, I wouldn't trade Naz Reid for Moses Brown straight up. Maybe that's biased as a Wolves fan, but I think Reid's ability to make threes at a respectable rate and put the ball on the floor and score are more difficult traits to find in a big than superb length and rim-protection. I like Brown a good bit, don't get me wrong, but I think Minnesota would have an easier time finding another Brown than they would Reid.
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lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:Let's throw out another option for a young player to possibly acquire.

What would you give up for Moses Brown? He was very productive last year and maybe he isn't legit but watching some highlights he is literally behind and reaching over Embiid and getting rebounds and tips. He is 7'1.25" tall without shoes and has a 7'4.75" wingspan. That's a big dude. He is signed for basically the vet min for the next 3 years so that could be an cheap contract if he is a nice player. I haven't seen him play enough to say I would give up a lottery protected first to get him but honestly I'm tempted to do so partly because of that value contract.


I'm a Moses Brown believer. He was on a shortlist of young defensive-minded bigs that I thought would be good trade targets. He's long, athletic, mobile, and as you said, he's locked into a very team-friendly deal.

I'll answer your question by asking another question. If you were the decision-maker for another franchise, what would you be willing to trade for Naz Reid? Their contracts make it that much more difficult, although not impossible, and they're clearly productive in some capacity. I'd have to think a first-round pick is the asking price for Reid unless included in a bigger deal. My assessment would be that Brown is similarly valued. I wonder if Jaylen Nowell would interest Dallas considering they're thinner in the backcourt than they are in the frontcourt.


That's a good question Cam. I agree I don't think I trade Naz for anything less than a 1st rounder either. Here is another question...would you trade Naz for Moses Brown? I'm not sure why Dallas would consider that but would you do it? I would want to be more familiar with Brown's game before I pulled the trigger as I really like Naz.


Dallas would absolutely trade Moses Brown for Naz Reid - in a heartbeat. The only question is whether the Wolves should make the offer. My answer is no. I'm intrigued by Moses Brown and have been high on him for a while, but Naz has shown a lot more game so far in his career and still has a lot of upside left. Would Dallas swap Brown for Jake Layman? I'd like to think so, but I doubt it. Jake and a future 2nd-round pick? Maybe that would be enough for Dallas. If so, I'd pull the trigger on that if I were Rosas. Cam suggested that Dallas might be interested in Nowell. I can see that. Would the Mavs swap Brown for Jaylen? I think so. Should Rosas make that deal if it's available? I'm not sure. I'm still high on Nowell. I'd rather sign Hartenstein as a free agent than give up Nowell to get Moses Brown.


Jake Layman would be a negative asset I'm not sure why you are trying to add him into the Brown trade.

If we could do a Nowell for Brown deal I would consider it. Why? For one thing Brown is locked in for an additional cheap year which is valuable. Q is also making me question Nowell a bit and his summer league performance in the 3 games I have seen was just good and I was hoping for more. At this point I would feel better about dealing away Nowell than Naz like you said.
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Camden0916 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:Let's throw out another option for a young player to possibly acquire.

What would you give up for Moses Brown? He was very productive last year and maybe he isn't legit but watching some highlights he is literally behind and reaching over Embiid and getting rebounds and tips. He is 7'1.25" tall without shoes and has a 7'4.75" wingspan. That's a big dude. He is signed for basically the vet min for the next 3 years so that could be an cheap contract if he is a nice player. I haven't seen him play enough to say I would give up a lottery protected first to get him but honestly I'm tempted to do so partly because of that value contract.


I'm a Moses Brown believer. He was on a shortlist of young defensive-minded bigs that I thought would be good trade targets. He's long, athletic, mobile, and as you said, he's locked into a very team-friendly deal.

I'll answer your question by asking another question. If you were the decision-maker for another franchise, what would you be willing to trade for Naz Reid? Their contracts make it that much more difficult, although not impossible, and they're clearly productive in some capacity. I'd have to think a first-round pick is the asking price for Reid unless included in a bigger deal. My assessment would be that Brown is similarly valued. I wonder if Jaylen Nowell would interest Dallas considering they're thinner in the backcourt than they are in the frontcourt.


That's a good question Cam. I agree I don't think I trade Naz for anything less than a 1st rounder either. Here is another question...would you trade Naz for Moses Brown? I'm not sure why Dallas would consider that but would you do it? I would want to be more familiar with Brown's game before I pulled the trigger as I really like Naz.


Personally, I wouldn't trade Naz Reid for Moses Brown straight up. Maybe that's biased as a Wolves fan, but I think Reid's ability to make threes at a respectable rate and put the ball on the floor and score are more difficult traits to find in a big than superb length and rim-protection. I like Brown a good bit, don't get me wrong, but I think Minnesota would have an easier time finding another Brown than they would Reid.


Agreed that's a good way of putting it.
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monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:Let's throw out another option for a young player to possibly acquire.

What would you give up for Moses Brown? He was very productive last year and maybe he isn't legit but watching some highlights he is literally behind and reaching over Embiid and getting rebounds and tips. He is 7'1.25" tall without shoes and has a 7'4.75" wingspan. That's a big dude. He is signed for basically the vet min for the next 3 years so that could be an cheap contract if he is a nice player. I haven't seen him play enough to say I would give up a lottery protected first to get him but honestly I'm tempted to do so partly because of that value contract.


I'm a Moses Brown believer. He was on a shortlist of young defensive-minded bigs that I thought would be good trade targets. He's long, athletic, mobile, and as you said, he's locked into a very team-friendly deal.

I'll answer your question by asking another question. If you were the decision-maker for another franchise, what would you be willing to trade for Naz Reid? Their contracts make it that much more difficult, although not impossible, and they're clearly productive in some capacity. I'd have to think a first-round pick is the asking price for Reid unless included in a bigger deal. My assessment would be that Brown is similarly valued. I wonder if Jaylen Nowell would interest Dallas considering they're thinner in the backcourt than they are in the frontcourt.


That's a good question Cam. I agree I don't think I trade Naz for anything less than a 1st rounder either. Here is another question...would you trade Naz for Moses Brown? I'm not sure why Dallas would consider that but would you do it? I would want to be more familiar with Brown's game before I pulled the trigger as I really like Naz.


Dallas would absolutely trade Moses Brown for Naz Reid - in a heartbeat. The only question is whether the Wolves should make the offer. My answer is no. I'm intrigued by Moses Brown and have been high on him for a while, but Naz has shown a lot more game so far in his career and still has a lot of upside left. Would Dallas swap Brown for Jake Layman? I'd like to think so, but I doubt it. Jake and a future 2nd-round pick? Maybe that would be enough for Dallas. If so, I'd pull the trigger on that if I were Rosas. Cam suggested that Dallas might be interested in Nowell. I can see that. Would the Mavs swap Brown for Jaylen? I think so. Should Rosas make that deal if it's available? I'm not sure. I'm still high on Nowell. I'd rather sign Hartenstein as a free agent than give up Nowell to get Moses Brown.


Jake Layman would be a negative asset I'm not sure why you are trying to add him into the Brown trade.

If we could do a Nowell for Brown deal I would consider it. Why? For one thing Brown is locked in for an additional cheap year which is valuable. Q is also making me question Nowell a bit and his summer league performance in the 3 games I have seen was just good and I was hoping for more. At this point I would feel better about dealing away Nowell than Naz like you said.


Monster - Jake is not a negative asset. He's an athletic, fairly long and skilled player with a nice-looking shooting stroke that makes him look like a guy who can be a consistently good 3-point guy. He's also on a relatively cheap, expiring contract. His contract alone gives him value. My hypothetical included the Wolves attaching a 2nd-round pick to the outgoing Layman as part of the deal. That's not a negative haul for Dallas. But as I said, I still don't think Dallas would do it.

I agree with you on preferring to deal Nowell rather than Naz for Brown. But as I said, I wouldn't deal either one if I could sign Hartenstein. Unfortunately, Signing Vanderbilt and Hartenstein would probably require us to trade someone for more financial flexibility. That's where Jake Layman comes in again. He's the key to opening up more room under the luxury tax to sign Hartenstein and also re-sign Vanderbilt. We could probably also sign J-Mac as well.
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lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:Let's throw out another option for a young player to possibly acquire.

What would you give up for Moses Brown? He was very productive last year and maybe he isn't legit but watching some highlights he is literally behind and reaching over Embiid and getting rebounds and tips. He is 7'1.25" tall without shoes and has a 7'4.75" wingspan. That's a big dude. He is signed for basically the vet min for the next 3 years so that could be an cheap contract if he is a nice player. I haven't seen him play enough to say I would give up a lottery protected first to get him but honestly I'm tempted to do so partly because of that value contract.


I'm a Moses Brown believer. He was on a shortlist of young defensive-minded bigs that I thought would be good trade targets. He's long, athletic, mobile, and as you said, he's locked into a very team-friendly deal.

I'll answer your question by asking another question. If you were the decision-maker for another franchise, what would you be willing to trade for Naz Reid? Their contracts make it that much more difficult, although not impossible, and they're clearly productive in some capacity. I'd have to think a first-round pick is the asking price for Reid unless included in a bigger deal. My assessment would be that Brown is similarly valued. I wonder if Jaylen Nowell would interest Dallas considering they're thinner in the backcourt than they are in the frontcourt.


That's a good question Cam. I agree I don't think I trade Naz for anything less than a 1st rounder either. Here is another question...would you trade Naz for Moses Brown? I'm not sure why Dallas would consider that but would you do it? I would want to be more familiar with Brown's game before I pulled the trigger as I really like Naz.


Dallas would absolutely trade Moses Brown for Naz Reid - in a heartbeat. The only question is whether the Wolves should make the offer. My answer is no. I'm intrigued by Moses Brown and have been high on him for a while, but Naz has shown a lot more game so far in his career and still has a lot of upside left. Would Dallas swap Brown for Jake Layman? I'd like to think so, but I doubt it. Jake and a future 2nd-round pick? Maybe that would be enough for Dallas. If so, I'd pull the trigger on that if I were Rosas. Cam suggested that Dallas might be interested in Nowell. I can see that. Would the Mavs swap Brown for Jaylen? I think so. Should Rosas make that deal if it's available? I'm not sure. I'm still high on Nowell. I'd rather sign Hartenstein as a free agent than give up Nowell to get Moses Brown.


Jake Layman would be a negative asset I'm not sure why you are trying to add him into the Brown trade.

If we could do a Nowell for Brown deal I would consider it. Why? For one thing Brown is locked in for an additional cheap year which is valuable. Q is also making me question Nowell a bit and his summer league performance in the 3 games I have seen was just good and I was hoping for more. At this point I would feel better about dealing away Nowell than Naz like you said.


Monster - Jake is not a negative asset. He's an athletic, fairly long and skilled player with a nice-looking shooting stroke that makes him look like a guy who can be a consistently good 3-point guy. He's also on a relatively cheap, expiring contract. His contract alone gives him value. My hypothetical included the Wolves attaching a 2nd-round pick to the outgoing Layman as part of the deal. That's not a negative haul for Dallas. But as I said, I still don't think Dallas would do it.

I agree with you on preferring to deal Nowell rather than Naz for Brown. But as I said, I wouldn't deal either one if I could sign Hartenstein. Unfortunately, Signing Vanderbilt and Hartenstein would probably require us to trade someone for more financial flexibility. That's where Jake Layman comes in again. He's the key to opening up more room under the luxury tax to sign Hartenstein and also re-sign Vanderbilt. We could probably also sign J-Mac as well.


You would sign Jake Layman this offseason for nearly 4 million?
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monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:Let's throw out another option for a young player to possibly acquire.

What would you give up for Moses Brown? He was very productive last year and maybe he isn't legit but watching some highlights he is literally behind and reaching over Embiid and getting rebounds and tips. He is 7'1.25" tall without shoes and has a 7'4.75" wingspan. That's a big dude. He is signed for basically the vet min for the next 3 years so that could be an cheap contract if he is a nice player. I haven't seen him play enough to say I would give up a lottery protected first to get him but honestly I'm tempted to do so partly because of that value contract.


I'm a Moses Brown believer. He was on a shortlist of young defensive-minded bigs that I thought would be good trade targets. He's long, athletic, mobile, and as you said, he's locked into a very team-friendly deal.

I'll answer your question by asking another question. If you were the decision-maker for another franchise, what would you be willing to trade for Naz Reid? Their contracts make it that much more difficult, although not impossible, and they're clearly productive in some capacity. I'd have to think a first-round pick is the asking price for Reid unless included in a bigger deal. My assessment would be that Brown is similarly valued. I wonder if Jaylen Nowell would interest Dallas considering they're thinner in the backcourt than they are in the frontcourt.


That's a good question Cam. I agree I don't think I trade Naz for anything less than a 1st rounder either. Here is another question...would you trade Naz for Moses Brown? I'm not sure why Dallas would consider that but would you do it? I would want to be more familiar with Brown's game before I pulled the trigger as I really like Naz.


Dallas would absolutely trade Moses Brown for Naz Reid - in a heartbeat. The only question is whether the Wolves should make the offer. My answer is no. I'm intrigued by Moses Brown and have been high on him for a while, but Naz has shown a lot more game so far in his career and still has a lot of upside left. Would Dallas swap Brown for Jake Layman? I'd like to think so, but I doubt it. Jake and a future 2nd-round pick? Maybe that would be enough for Dallas. If so, I'd pull the trigger on that if I were Rosas. Cam suggested that Dallas might be interested in Nowell. I can see that. Would the Mavs swap Brown for Jaylen? I think so. Should Rosas make that deal if it's available? I'm not sure. I'm still high on Nowell. I'd rather sign Hartenstein as a free agent than give up Nowell to get Moses Brown.



Jake Layman would be a negative asset I'm not sure why you are trying to add him into the Brown trade.

If we could do a Nowell for Brown deal I would consider it. Why? For one thing Brown is locked in for an additional cheap year which is valuable. Q is also making me question Nowell a bit and his summer league performance in the 3 games I have seen was just good and I was hoping for more. At this point I would feel better about dealing away Nowell than Naz like you said.


Monster - Jake is not a negative asset. He's an athletic, fairly long and skilled player with a nice-looking shooting stroke that makes him look like a guy who can be a consistently good 3-point guy. He's also on a relatively cheap, expiring contract. His contract alone gives him value. My hypothetical included the Wolves attaching a 2nd-round pick to the outgoing Layman as part of the deal. That's not a negative haul for Dallas. But as I said, I still don't think Dallas would do it.

I agree with you on preferring to deal Nowell rather than Naz for Brown. But as I said, I wouldn't deal either one if I could sign Hartenstein. Unfortunately, Signing Vanderbilt and Hartenstein would probably require us to trade someone for more financial flexibility. That's where Jake Layman comes in again. He's the key to opening up more room under the luxury tax to sign Hartenstein and also re-sign Vanderbilt. We could probably also sign J-Mac as well.


You would sign Jake Layman this offseason for nearly 4 million?


Depends on who i have on my team, what my team payroll is, who the alternatives are on the free-agent market and what my team's needs are. I like that his contract is modest and expiring. I like that he's still relatively young. He can play. Of course, he's not a highly valuable asset as a player. But he's not a negative. He has skills, can score and by all accounts he's a good teammate. His expiring contract also adds some incremental positive value. Give me a second round pick as part of the deal and I'll definitely consider taking him in exchange for a end-of-bench player on a non-guaranteed or smaller salary contract.
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lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:Let's throw out another option for a young player to possibly acquire.

What would you give up for Moses Brown? He was very productive last year and maybe he isn't legit but watching some highlights he is literally behind and reaching over Embiid and getting rebounds and tips. He is 7'1.25" tall without shoes and has a 7'4.75" wingspan. That's a big dude. He is signed for basically the vet min for the next 3 years so that could be an cheap contract if he is a nice player. I haven't seen him play enough to say I would give up a lottery protected first to get him but honestly I'm tempted to do so partly because of that value contract.


I'm a Moses Brown believer. He was on a shortlist of young defensive-minded bigs that I thought would be good trade targets. He's long, athletic, mobile, and as you said, he's locked into a very team-friendly deal.

I'll answer your question by asking another question. If you were the decision-maker for another franchise, what would you be willing to trade for Naz Reid? Their contracts make it that much more difficult, although not impossible, and they're clearly productive in some capacity. I'd have to think a first-round pick is the asking price for Reid unless included in a bigger deal. My assessment would be that Brown is similarly valued. I wonder if Jaylen Nowell would interest Dallas considering they're thinner in the backcourt than they are in the frontcourt.


That's a good question Cam. I agree I don't think I trade Naz for anything less than a 1st rounder either. Here is another question...would you trade Naz for Moses Brown? I'm not sure why Dallas would consider that but would you do it? I would want to be more familiar with Brown's game before I pulled the trigger as I really like Naz.


Dallas would absolutely trade Moses Brown for Naz Reid - in a heartbeat. The only question is whether the Wolves should make the offer. My answer is no. I'm intrigued by Moses Brown and have been high on him for a while, but Naz has shown a lot more game so far in his career and still has a lot of upside left. Would Dallas swap Brown for Jake Layman? I'd like to think so, but I doubt it. Jake and a future 2nd-round pick? Maybe that would be enough for Dallas. If so, I'd pull the trigger on that if I were Rosas. Cam suggested that Dallas might be interested in Nowell. I can see that. Would the Mavs swap Brown for Jaylen? I think so. Should Rosas make that deal if it's available? I'm not sure. I'm still high on Nowell. I'd rather sign Hartenstein as a free agent than give up Nowell to get Moses Brown.



Jake Layman would be a negative asset I'm not sure why you are trying to add him into the Brown trade.

If we could do a Nowell for Brown deal I would consider it. Why? For one thing Brown is locked in for an additional cheap year which is valuable. Q is also making me question Nowell a bit and his summer league performance in the 3 games I have seen was just good and I was hoping for more. At this point I would feel better about dealing away Nowell than Naz like you said.


Monster - Jake is not a negative asset. He's an athletic, fairly long and skilled player with a nice-looking shooting stroke that makes him look like a guy who can be a consistently good 3-point guy. He's also on a relatively cheap, expiring contract. His contract alone gives him value. My hypothetical included the Wolves attaching a 2nd-round pick to the outgoing Layman as part of the deal. That's not a negative haul for Dallas. But as I said, I still don't think Dallas would do it.

I agree with you on preferring to deal Nowell rather than Naz for Brown. But as I said, I wouldn't deal either one if I could sign Hartenstein. Unfortunately, Signing Vanderbilt and Hartenstein would probably require us to trade someone for more financial flexibility. That's where Jake Layman comes in again. He's the key to opening up more room under the luxury tax to sign Hartenstein and also re-sign Vanderbilt. We could probably also sign J-Mac as well.


You would sign Jake Layman this offseason for nearly 4 million?


Depends on who i have on my team, what my team payroll is, who the alternatives are on the free-agent market and what my team's needs are. I like that his contract is modest and expiring. I like that he's still relatively young. He can play. Of course, he's not a highly valuable asset as a player. But he's not a negative. He has skills, can score and by all accounts he's a good teammate. His expiring contract also adds some incremental positive value. Give me a second round pick as part of the deal and I'll definitely consider taking him in exchange for a end-of-bench player on a non-guaranteed or smaller salary contract.


So if you are a theoretical team looking to acquire Layman you are looking to receive a 2nd round pick in the trade?
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