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Re: Wolves vs Det GDT
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:20 pm
by Papalrep
CrazySauce--Thibs needs to be gone. The game has passed him by clearly. He has made none of his players better
I agree with the obvious. I know it's WAY early, but Thibs seems to have lost this team. Dispirited and uninspired play. If you think POP and his staff had this team, they would be playing this way?
Was it LST who suggested Kevin Ollie?
Re: Wolves vs Det GDT
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:25 pm
by Coolbreeze44
papalrep wrote:CrazySauce--Thibs needs to be gone. The game has passed him by clearly. He has made none of his players better
I agree with the obvious. I know it's WAY early, but Thibs seems to have lost this team. Dispirited and uninspired play. If you think POP and his staff had this team, they would be playing this way?
Was it LST who suggested Kevin Ollie?
I believe I was at the forefront of that suggestion.
Re: Wolves vs Det GDT
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:39 pm
by Papalrep
Sorry man. It's the confessional for me.
Re: Wolves vs Det GDT
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:57 pm
by 60WinTim
It will get better. I just don't know when...
Re: Wolves vs Det GDT
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:06 pm
by TheFuture
TheSP wrote:lipoli390 wrote:TheSP wrote:This team goes no place good until such time as it's two "best" young players learn how to, and willingly play defense.
#FreeJimmyButler
Yes. But I'll add that I don't see this team ever becoming a good defensive team with its current personnel. As Q pointed out, we haven't even been very good defensively with Butler playing. I've seen enough of Wiggins to conclude he'll never be a good defender. I still hold out some hope for KAT but that hope is fading. So both need to simply improve enough so they're no longer terrible.
This team is built to score, not defend. That's even more true now that Teague has replaced Rubio as our starting PG. We clearly have to improve defensively because we can't expect to win giving up 120+ points. But to win, this team will have to consistently score over 110 points and fairly frequently score 115-125 points. This team is filled with scorers - KAT, Wiggins, Teague, Bazz, Crawford and Belly. The defense simply has to be good enough to hold teams under 110. Sadly, this team, without Butler, can't even do that against medicore teams. I don't have an answer for the offense. One thing is that we lack 3-point firepower.
Watching KAT and Wig try to play defense is like watching me trying to eat with chopsticks.
Hahaha.
Noodles or rice?
Re: Wolves vs Det GDT
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:25 pm
by Monster
TheFuture wrote:lipoli390 wrote:$19 million per year for 3 years??!! Nice job Thibs.
Yeah, obviously I'm still pissed about that signing. Ricky was not perfect, but he was the ONE player we could count on giving it all and contributing every night. Is it now obvious to everyone that Ricky was not the issue with this team?? This is embarrassing.
I thought Teague played pretty good overall in this game. He had a few hustle plays. Let's be honest with ourselves in this crappy moment of the last 2 embarrassing games. Whether Rubio or Teague was playing wasn't going to matter. Tonight Rubio was the starting PG for a Jazz team that was only able to score 88 points and lost to THE SUNS who started a 2 way contract PG.
Re: Wolves vs Det GDT
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:25 pm
by Coolbreeze44
papalrep wrote:Sorry man. It's the confessional for me.
LOL - I'm going to let you slide. I believe the other proponent of Ollie was Lip.
Re: Wolves vs Det GDT
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:30 pm
by Monster
CoolBreeze44 wrote:papalrep wrote:Sorry man. It's the confessional for me.
LOL - I'm going to let you slide. I believe the other proponent of Ollie was Lip.
He was my favorite if we went for a young coach which I was not opposed to.
Re: Wolves vs Det GDT
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:40 pm
by Coolbreeze44
It's not just "want to" that KAT doesn't have on defense. He also sucks at it the few times he actually tries. Poor fundamentals, terrible instincts, and an incredibly weak base. I think he has to play the 4 next to a guy who can actually defend the rim.
Re: Wolves vs Det GDT
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:43 pm
by AbeVigodaLive
CoolBreeze44 wrote:It's not just "want to" that KAT doesn't have on defense. He also sucks at it the few times he actually tries. Poor fundamentals, terrible instincts, and an incredibly weak base. I think he has to play the 4 next to a guy who can actually defend the rim.
Takes away a huge advantage of having him though... you lose his "unicorn" status.