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Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:40 am
by apollotsg [enjin:6592798]
I am 99% sure that we play positionless basketball and have enough guys that can bring the ball up the court.

I would love both those moves.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:46 am
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
How is Bogdan's defense?

We need shooters for sure, but we can't give it all back on the other end.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:48 am
by Monster
Camden0916 wrote:Wolves: SG Bogdan Bogdanovic, SF Trevor Ariza

Kings: PG Jeff Teague, SG Treveon Graham, 2020 2nd-round pick

Trade can't be made until December 15th and would require re-signing Bogdan Bogdanovic after the season as a restricted free agent. I would put an offer sheet of four-years, $60M in front of him. Wolves could even get cute and put $1M annual incentives in his deal if he eclipses 200 three-pointers made.

To replace Graham's small ball presence in the rotation, I'd offer Jabari Parker a three-year, $27M deal. He's been great early for the Hawks and I think there's high-upside talent that can be unlocked with even more opportunity. The further he gets from his injury-riddled past, the better and better he's been. If Wolves management wants to continue this high-pace oriented attack, having a forward that can grab a rebound and start the fastbreak on his own should be a priority. Parker excels in uptempo environments.


Cam you are gonna need to add something more to that trade because it's basically a 2nd round pick in terms of long term value for the Kings.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:07 am
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
monsterpile wrote: Cam you are gonna need to add something more to that trade because it's basically a 2nd round pick in terms of long term value for the Kings.


My hypothetical trade frees the Kings from $12.8M of Ariza's deal, gives them a 26-year old rotation player in Graham to audition to essentially replace Bogdanovic, and a second-round pick for their troubles.

That's not too shabby of a haul for a player that is as good as gone next summer.

You could argue that the Kings should try to fetch a first-rounder for him, but what playoff contender -- or team that is going to be aggressive enough to be in the market -- is going to deal away a first and then commit that much long-term money to Bogdanovic? I don't think he could command a first unless he was on a Robert Covington or Josh Richardson type contract.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:22 am
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
Q12543 wrote:How is Bogdan's defense?

We need shooters for sure, but we can't give it all back on the other end.


Likely grades out around average. Not a plus defender, but certainly not a liability. Big enough to guard either wing.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:32 am
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
Our old buddy Ricky Rubio off to a nice start in Phoenix. The dude just plays plus-level basketball wherever he goes.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:40 am
by Monster
Camden0916 wrote:
monsterpile wrote: Cam you are gonna need to add something more to that trade because it's basically a 2nd round pick in terms of long term value for the Kings.


My hypothetical trade frees the Kings from $12.8M of Ariza's deal, gives them a 26-year old rotation player in Graham to audition to essentially replace Bogdanovic, and a second-round pick for their troubles.

That's not too shabby of a haul for a player that is as good as gone next summer.

You could argue that the Kings should try to fetch a first-rounder for him, but what playoff contender -- or team that is going to be aggressive enough to be in the market -- is going to deal away a first and then commit that much long-term money to Bogdanovic? I don't think he could command a first unless he was on a Robert Covington or Josh Richardson type contract.


You know Ariza only has 1.8 guaranteed for next year right?

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:03 pm
by bleedspeed
Q12543 wrote:Our old buddy Ricky Rubio off to a nice start in Phoenix. The dude just plays plus-level basketball wherever he goes.


He would look good next to Wiggins, KAT, and Roco.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:08 pm
by mjs34
I am not a big fan of Parker because he seems to wear out his welcome quickly with teams, but Bogdanovic certainly intrigues me. Not sure that we can afford to spend that kind of money on a bench player unless we are moving on from Covington. We need to build the surrounding cast mainly through the draft to keep our salary cap down.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:17 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
sjm34 wrote:I am not a big fan of Parker because he seems to wear out his welcome quickly with teams, but Bogdanovic certainly intrigues me. Not sure that we can afford to spend that kind of money on a bench player unless we are moving on from Covington. We need to build the surrounding cast mainly through the draft to keep our salary cap down.


I've never heard anything that would support Parker wearing out his welcome with teams. Maybe I missed something there, but I'm curious if you have more on that. It would definitely be another factor to consider.

The idea would be to start Bogdanovic alongside Towns and Wiggins -- not have him come off the bench. He wants an increased role and he won't get it in Sacramento. That's part of why he'll be leaving.