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Re: Iowa Wolves thread

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:55 am
by Monster
SameOldDrew wrote:
monsterpile wrote:The Wolves last game was on Eleven sports so I wasn't able to watch it back. I a couple take aways from the highlights and box score.

Anthony Brown started 0-9 in this game but then hit all 10 of the rest of his shots. He also had 6 assists.

Patton had another encouraging game with 10 points 5 rebounds 5 aqssists 2 steals and a block. So thats 12 assists total in the last 2 games. Below is a link to highlights of his assists from the previous game.

https://twitter.com/iawolves/status/954482136312111104

The Wolves were 16-28 from the 3 point line. Yes you read that right.

Amile with a pedestrian for him game with just 17-8. Of course with both teams shooting well there were only 71 total rebounds so yeah.

Terrence Jones is on the Santa Cruz Warrious but I think he has a shoulder injury keeping him out. He had signed a deal in China I think. I wonder if that didn't work out or what. Anyway I thought that was interesting because he is talented and turned 26 a few days ago.

Well that's about it. This looked like it was a fun game its too bad its not available to watch back. Oh well.


Thanks for the link monster.

Those passes are pretty impressive. When a big guy can pass the ball like that, especially with both the left and right hands like he shows in that video, it can really help out your offense IF he's also a willing passer and a smart one. That's key. Sometimes guys are good passers when they decide to pass, but they just don't decide the do it very much, reminding us there's a difference between being an able passer and a willing one. Also, sometimes big guys seem to try to make a flashy pass in what looks like an attempt to show off, rather than just making smart passes, and this leads to turnovers. This is something we've seen from Towns at times. Watching Blake this last game was a definite reminder of how nice it is when your big guy is a good passer (and ball handler). We've had some pretty decent passing bigs over recent years--Love, Gorgui (surprisingly solid passer), and Towns. None of those guys were on Blake's level as ball handlers, but they have helped the offense a bit with passing.

One thing I saw a lot of in that video, and in Patton's highlights going back to Creighton, is his tendency to start to get back on D as soon as the shot is up (sometimes even as the guy is just going into the shooting motion). That's good when it comes to transition defense, but not so good when it comes to offensive rebounding. He also does this on the other end, which is one reason why he's a fast break threat. Again, that's nice to have, but it also explains why he is not a statistically more impressive rebounder despite his size and soft hands. What do you guys make of this. Does the transition game benefits outweigh the rebounding disadvantage? I'd like to see some guys at the MIT Sloan conference take on a question like this.


Good questions

On Patton's passing. Watching on the Iowa Wolves he tries to make some passes and they are pretty creative. Do some of them not work out and maybe weren't the smartest? Yeah. Sometimes really good passers push the envelope a bit and if there is a play for him to try things out it's at the G-league level. Will he be a really good passer? Idk but it's an intruiging part of his game. Part of what makes Draymond Green such a valueable player is his passing ability and he definitely throws some bad ones too. I'm not suggesting Patton is gonna be that good but again there looks to be more there than your typical big especially one with his size and length. I think about Towns passing also when watching Patton. Some of Towns I do think he gets flashy but he also clearly has a nice feel and can absolutely make some good plays there. He just needs to improve his game and learn when to do it and when not to.

As for Patton running back on D it reminds me of the discussion here about Thad Young. Maybe some of Patton making plays like this is because he used to be a guard. Maybe it's because he likes to get up and down the floor. He is a raw player for a number of reasons and right now at the G-league level he still doesn't look like he is in peak shape which makes sense given his injury and he likely tried to add some strength to his frame. That makes it harder at times to know what his actual tendencies are at times.

Re: Iowa Wolves thread

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:00 am
by Monster
I think this may have been posted last summer but I'll post it here again. This is a workout video of Patton and yes workout videos make guys look good but IMO this video shows how there can be some legit intrigue about his ability to shoot the Basketball.

https://youtu.be/OQyFyTFH9wA

Also this confirms to me that Patton looks bigger now than he did this summer. I don't know if that's all good but he was pretty thin. His mom was a marathon runner and his dad is over 7' and 360.

Re: Iowa Wolves thread

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:06 am
by Monster
Some extended highlights of Patton from 2 games ago.

https://youtu.be/BCElRpVXrZs

Re: Iowa Wolves thread

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:16 pm
by SameOldNudityDrew
Thanks for those links monster.

Anybody else watch Richaun Holmes play much? Patton kind of reminds me of a longer Richaun Holmes.

I like that we're getting him plenty of burn in the G League and using it as a true developmental league. We should have been doing that for years. I never got why basketball didn't do that a little more like baseball. Some young guys just need more time and reps to develop, and they can get that in this system rather than sitting on the bench doing nothing. Fingers crossed for this guy to develop and work out.

Re: Iowa Wolves thread

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:16 pm
by Duke13
Just from watching the highlights, his footwork and skill level looks pretty good.

Re: Iowa Wolves thread

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:43 am
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
Seems like Patton is starting to come on a bit based on the last few box scores. I haven't had a chance to watch him though, so it's hard to say if it's mostly his natural size and skill and/or if he is actually putting out more effort, which is my biggest concern with him.

Re: Iowa Wolves thread

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:48 am
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
Per 36 minute numbers:

20 PPG
10 RPG
2.8 APG
1.8 SPG
2.6 BPG

Solid shooting and free throw percentages, although I think he plays a little soft and doesn't draw enough fouls given his size. That limits his overall offensive efficiency since he tends to settle for jumpers quite often. I think he'd get pushed around quite a bit at the NBA level....gee, what a shock, another big man that has a hard time holding his ground.....As we seem to say with seemingly every draft pick we've ever made, he needs to add weight and strength.

Re: Iowa Wolves thread

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:15 am
by Monster
Q12543 wrote:Per 36 minute numbers:

20 PPG
10 RPG
2.8 APG
1.8 SPG
2.6 BPG

Solid shooting and free throw percentages, although I think he plays a little soft and doesn't draw enough fouls given his size. That limits his overall offensive efficiency since he tends to settle for jumpers quite often. I think he'd get pushed around quite a bit at the NBA level....gee, what a shock, another big man that has a hard time holding his ground.....As we seem to say with seemingly every draft pick we've ever made, he needs to add weight and strength.


In this new NBA how much is it really going to matter if you can hold your ground? I'm not saying it doesn't matter at all but it is something to consider. He is still pretty young also and on top of that he has a lot of size and length which matters.

Those per 36 numbers...1.8 steals (yes he reaches too much) and 2.6 blocks combined are pretty intruiging. I haven't watched the last game yet the previous 2 were broadcast on over the air TV so they aren't available.

Re: Iowa Wolves thread

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:44 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
Patton continuing to come on a bit....another nice game the other night: 19 points, 12 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, and a block in only 24 minutes of action. He also went 2-5 from beyond the arc. There is a nice highlight package of him on the G-league site.

Re: Iowa Wolves thread

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:59 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
Patton tonight:

19 points, 9 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 steal, and a +20 on 9-14 shooting, including 1-2 from 3.This was in only 25 minutes of play.

I didn't see the game, but the last few outings have been encouraging.