TheGrey08 wrote:Half of those 12 probably voted yes just to cause a stir lol
...but therein lies the problem. The fact that someone picked GF over Wiggins shouldn't be taken as a personal affront or insult. The 12 folks that voted yes is not about Wiggins being a "huge disappointment", but about giving the edge to one guy with tantalizing potential over another.
2-10, 5-13, 5-17, 5-18. Those are Andrew's first four games to this season. You're damn right I said I was worried about him. He's one of our two blue-chip prospects and the reigning ROY. He was playing passive and looked like he wasn't engaged during games. That's not what anyone wants to see from a player that needs to be a star for this team to change their losing ways, especially when year 2 and year 3 are supposed to be where said player shows the growth of his game that he worked on over the summer. I don't regret making that statement at all. Why? Clearly, I wasn't the only one that saw it and thought it. Ricky Rubio himself talked about it.
TheGrey08 wrote:Half of those 12 probably voted yes just to cause a stir lol
...but therein lies the problem. The fact that someone picked GF over Wiggins shouldn't be taken as a personal affront or insult. The 12 folks that voted yes is not about Wiggins being a "huge disappointment", but about giving the edge to one guy with tantalizing potential over another.
Camden wrote:Even though I voted not to trade Wiggins, you guys realize that tonight was just one night, right? We downplayed Giannis' start to the season because it was a small sample size. Well, are we supposed to have a conclusion to this debate after one regular season game in November of 2015? No way.
Wiggins was great tonight and it was exactly what we needed. Giannis could have a monster triple double in his next game and it shouldn't change anything about this thread.
Hilarious. Now you are talking about sample size? If you can be worried about Wiggins after 3 bad games, people can be excited after 2 great games.
Huh? My post clearly went right over your head. Read it one more time and try again.
No it didn't. You are the king of making conclusions on small sample sizes Cam. It is hilarious having a statement about not drawing conclusions from you.
1. Wrong. That title solely belongs to LST. Respect him as a poster, but he tends to get caught up in a handful of games completely affecting his thoughts on a team or player. Otherwise, he's great for this board.
2. Let's hear some of my small sample conclusions since I'm the supposed king. Here, I'll point you to the two that you can bring up. Anthony Bennett and Adreian Payne being garbage in the NBA. What else? Come on.
3. The point that you absolutely missed, and still haven't comprehended because you're being petty after a great win, is that Giannis and Wiggins are not the players that they'll be in a couple years. They both have high ceilings and have already shown that they have production to back it up. There are legitimate points for both sides of this coin. Remember, I'm actually on Andrew's side in this one, but is it a slam dunk choice at this moment in time? No.
I'm sure it was you who said after 3 games you were worried about Wiggins.
And that Jabari was better than Wiggins after 20 last year. There are 2. Let the pro-Wiggins people enjoy this Cam. We all know how much you love to blow your load when one of your guys has a good game.
I was pro-Jabari pre-draft, and he was arguably the better player after 20 games last year. There wasn't a definitive "this guy is better, it's a wrap" statement, though. Emotions seem to be running high on this board right now. Yeesh.
worldK wrote:Poor lst, cam has to drag you into this. That tells you about someone's character when he needs to drag someone else in an argument, take some shot at the guy and of course give some pat in the back to the guy to appear not being hostile to him.
More nonsense. Wasn't a shot at LST at all. Pretty sure Q, LST and I have laughingly thrown that around, specifically about Bjelica.
Camden wrote:Even though I voted not to trade Wiggins, you guys realize that tonight was just one night, right? We downplayed Giannis' start to the season because it was a small sample size. Well, are we supposed to have a conclusion to this debate after one regular season game in November of 2015? No way.
Wiggins was great tonight and it was exactly what we needed. Giannis could have a monster triple double in his next game and it shouldn't change anything about this thread.
Hilarious. Now you are talking about sample size? If you can be worried about Wiggins after 3 bad games, people can be excited after 2 great games.
Huh? My post clearly went right over your head. Read it one more time and try again.
No it didn't. You are the king of making conclusions on small sample sizes Cam. It is hilarious having a statement about not drawing conclusions from you.
1. Wrong. That title solely belongs to LST. Respect him as a poster, but he tends to get caught up in a handful of games completely affecting his thoughts on a team or player. Otherwise, he's great for this board.
2. Let's hear some of my small sample conclusions since I'm the supposed king. Here, I'll point you to the two that you can bring up. Anthony Bennett and Adreian Payne being garbage in the NBA. What else? Come on.
3. The point that you absolutely missed, and still haven't comprehended because you're being petty after a great win, is that Giannis and Wiggins are not the players that they'll be in a couple years. They both have high ceilings and have already shown that they have production to back it up. There are legitimate points for both sides of this coin. Remember, I'm actually on Andrew's side in this one, but is it a slam dunk choice at this moment in time? No.
I'm sure it was you who said after 3 games you were worried about Wiggins.
A lot of us were, but the concern was his demeanor, not ability.
TheGrey08 wrote:Half of those 12 probably voted yes just to cause a stir lol
...but therein lies the problem. The fact that someone picked GF over Wiggins shouldn't be taken as a personal affront or insult. The 12 folks that voted yes is not about Wiggins being a "huge disappointment", but about giving the edge to one guy with tantalizing potential over another.
It could also be about lunacy IMO.
Well, then I guess there are 12 lunatics on this board. If Wiggins truly turns into an efficient go-to scorer that does what he did tonight on a more regular basis, than I tip my cap to him. I'm glad we have him either way.
worldK wrote:Poor lst, cam has to drag you into this. That tells you about someone's character when he needs to drag someone else in an argument, take some shot at the guy and of course give some pat in the back to the guy to appear not being hostile to him.
More nonsense. Wasn't a shot at LST at all. Pretty sure Q, LST and I have laughingly thrown that around, specifically about Bjelica.
Camden wrote:Even though I voted not to trade Wiggins, you guys realize that tonight was just one night, right? We downplayed Giannis' start to the season because it was a small sample size. Well, are we supposed to have a conclusion to this debate after one regular season game in November of 2015? No way.
Wiggins was great tonight and it was exactly what we needed. Giannis could have a monster triple double in his next game and it shouldn't change anything about this thread.
Hilarious. Now you are talking about sample size? If you can be worried about Wiggins after 3 bad games, people can be excited after 2 great games.
Huh? My post clearly went right over your head. Read it one more time and try again.
No it didn't. You are the king of making conclusions on small sample sizes Cam. It is hilarious having a statement about not drawing conclusions from you.
1. Wrong. That title solely belongs to LST. Respect him as a poster, but he tends to get caught up in a handful of games completely affecting his thoughts on a team or player. Otherwise, he's great for this board.
2. Let's hear some of my small sample conclusions since I'm the supposed king. Here, I'll point you to the two that you can bring up. Anthony Bennett and Adreian Payne being garbage in the NBA. What else? Come on.
3. The point that you absolutely missed, and still haven't comprehended because you're being petty after a great win, is that Giannis and Wiggins are not the players that they'll be in a couple years. They both have high ceilings and have already shown that they have production to back it up. There are legitimate points for both sides of this coin. Remember, I'm actually on Andrew's side in this one, but is it a slam dunk choice at this moment in time? No.
I'm sure it was you who said after 3 games you were worried about Wiggins.
And that Jabari was better than Wiggins after 20 last year. There are 2. Let the pro-Wiggins people enjoy this Cam. We all know how much you love to blow your load when one of your guys has a good game.
I was pro-Jabari pre-draft, and he was arguably the better player after 20 games last year. There wasn't a definitive "this guy is better, it's a wrap" statement, though. Emotions seem to be running high on this board right now. Yeesh.
Only your emotions Cam, except i do have a little bit of glee hearing you rationalize. Clearly you believe you have been level-headed, logical, rational and never personal here.
i did not know about back issue and was not sure if Wig can take over SG position untill i saw that game vs Bulls, i would still not change my vote probably as i am big fan of GF and i think that he will be able to guard guys like Bron/KD etc. while scoring nicely on the other end i see him evolve into player like Kawhi with a lot more length
