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I'm on the other side on this one...I see Brooks as a big upgrade over Flip, and would approve hiring him (spoiler alert...it's not gonna happen). I always sided with Durant/Westbrook's defense of Brooks when the media ripped him after his 4-1 loss to Miami. Yes, OkC was enormously talented that year, but Miami was more talented...not to mention more seasoned and more desperate for a win. I never really saw OkC as having much of a chance in that series...Miami was not going to be denied.

I think Brooks would be a terrific choice to grow with the young core Flip has put together. This has a lot to do with my coaching prejudices. I favor an inspirational guy who gets his guys to play hard every night over a supposed x's and o's genius, and I think that defines Brooks. Orlando's front office sees this, and that's why they are rumored to be considering him to coach their young team.

Flip could actually save face a little if he hired Brooks. He could say "Scottie wasn't really given a chance to coach this year with the injuries to his stars", and astute NBA fans would know he was really talking about himself. Nevertheless, not likely to happen.

longstrangetrip wrote:I'm on the other side on this one...I see Brooks as a big upgrade over Flip, and would approve hiring him (spoiler alert...it's not gonna happen). I always sided with Durant/Westbrook's defense of Brooks when the media ripped him after his 4-1 loss to Miami. Yes, OkC was enormously talented that year, but Miami was more talented...not to mention more seasoned and more desperate for a win. I never really saw OkC as having much of a chance in that series...Miami was not going to be denied.

I think Brooks would be a terrific choice to grow with the young core Flip has put together. This has a lot to do with my coaching prejudices. I favor an inspirational guy who gets his guys to play hard every night over a supposed x's and o's genius, and I think that defines Brooks. Orlando's front office sees this, and that's why they are rumored to be considering him to coach their young team.

Flip could actually save face a little if he hired Brooks. He could say "Scottie wasn't really given a chance to coach this year with the injuries to his stars", and astute NBA fans would know he was really talking about himself. Nevertheless, not likely to happen.

I would certainly be happy enough hiring Brooks and I do wonder if he may be a better coach at his next stop as a game tactician. It's possible a change could be good for him.

longstrangetrip wrote:I'm on the other side on this one...I see Brooks as a big upgrade over Flip, and would approve hiring him (spoiler alert...it's not gonna happen). I always sided with Durant/Westbrook's defense of Brooks when the media ripped him after his 4-1 loss to Miami. Yes, OkC was enormously talented that year, but Miami was more talented...not to mention more seasoned and more desperate for a win. I never really saw OkC as having much of a chance in that series...Miami was not going to be denied.

I think Brooks would be a terrific choice to grow with the young core Flip has put together. This has a lot to do with my coaching prejudices. I favor an inspirational guy who gets his guys to play hard every night over a supposed x's and o's genius, and I think that defines Brooks. Orlando's front office sees this, and that's why they are rumored to be considering him to coach their young team.

Flip could actually save face a little if he hired Brooks. He could say "Scottie wasn't really given a chance to coach this year with the injuries to his stars", and astute NBA fans would know he was really talking about himself. Nevertheless, not likely to happen.

Miami was not more talented than OKC. Westbrook/Harden/Durant/Ibaka is a better core than Lebron/Wade/Bosh. Brooks had two top 5 players and another top 10 player on his team for multiple years and only made the finals once. Even after the Harden trade he still had two top 5 players in the league. He's had the best talent in the league his whole time in OKC and he got to the finals once. Only Rondo/Allen/Pierce/KG is probably a better top 4 in the past decade than what he had. The Heat made it to four straight finals because they had great talent and Spo is actually a great coach. If Brooks was a great coach I think he would have more than 1 finals appearance.

khans2k5 wrote:

longstrangetrip wrote:I'm on the other side on this one...I see Brooks as a big upgrade over Flip, and would approve hiring him (spoiler alert...it's not gonna happen). I always sided with Durant/Westbrook's defense of Brooks when the media ripped him after his 4-1 loss to Miami. Yes, OkC was enormously talented that year, but Miami was more talented...not to mention more seasoned and more desperate for a win. I never really saw OkC as having much of a chance in that series...Miami was not going to be denied.

I think Brooks would be a terrific choice to grow with the young core Flip has put together. This has a lot to do with my coaching prejudices. I favor an inspirational guy who gets his guys to play hard every night over a supposed x's and o's genius, and I think that defines Brooks. Orlando's front office sees this, and that's why they are rumored to be considering him to coach their young team.

Flip could actually save face a little if he hired Brooks. He could say "Scottie wasn't really given a chance to coach this year with the injuries to his stars", and astute NBA fans would know he was really talking about himself. Nevertheless, not likely to happen.

Miami was not more talented than OKC. Westbrook/Harden/Durant/Ibaka is a better core than Lebron/Wade/Bosh. Brooks had two top 5 players and another top 10 player on his team for multiple years and only made the finals once. Even after the Harden trade he still had two top 5 players in the league. He's had the best talent in the league his whole time in OKC and he got to the finals once. Only Rondo/Allen/Pierce/KG is probably a better top 4 in the past decade than what he had. The Heat made it to four straight finals because they had great talent and Spo is actually a great coach. If Brooks was a great coach I think he would have more than 1 finals appearance.

Gotta disagree with you on the talent comparison, khans. Miami had the consensus best player in basketball and two other top 5 picks. Neither Harden or certainly Ibaka were considered top 5 talent coming out of college, and you have to credit Brooks for their overachievement. And regardless of what the truth is about the talent comparison, there is no question that the Heat were much more seasoned. This was a series of talented vets against talented guys in their early 20s, and we all know who wins that kind of matchup in the NBA.

Another angle supporting Brooks as Wolves' coach...Durant loves him and is a free agent after next year. Hmm...

longstrangetrip wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

longstrangetrip wrote:I'm on the other side on this one...I see Brooks as a big upgrade over Flip, and would approve hiring him (spoiler alert...it's not gonna happen). I always sided with Durant/Westbrook's defense of Brooks when the media ripped him after his 4-1 loss to Miami. Yes, OkC was enormously talented that year, but Miami was more talented...not to mention more seasoned and more desperate for a win. I never really saw OkC as having much of a chance in that series...Miami was not going to be denied.

I think Brooks would be a terrific choice to grow with the young core Flip has put together. This has a lot to do with my coaching prejudices. I favor an inspirational guy who gets his guys to play hard every night over a supposed x's and o's genius, and I think that defines Brooks. Orlando's front office sees this, and that's why they are rumored to be considering him to coach their young team.

Flip could actually save face a little if he hired Brooks. He could say "Scottie wasn't really given a chance to coach this year with the injuries to his stars", and astute NBA fans would know he was really talking about himself. Nevertheless, not likely to happen.

Miami was not more talented than OKC. Westbrook/Harden/Durant/Ibaka is a better core than Lebron/Wade/Bosh. Brooks had two top 5 players and another top 10 player on his team for multiple years and only made the finals once. Even after the Harden trade he still had two top 5 players in the league. He's had the best talent in the league his whole time in OKC and he got to the finals once. Only Rondo/Allen/Pierce/KG is probably a better top 4 in the past decade than what he had. The Heat made it to four straight finals because they had great talent and Spo is actually a great coach. If Brooks was a great coach I think he would have more than 1 finals appearance.

Gotta disagree with you on the talent comparison, khans. Miami had the consensus best player in basketball and two other top 5 picks. Neither Harden or certainly Ibaka were considered top 5 talent coming out of college, and you have to credit Brooks for their overachievement. And regardless of what the truth is about the talent comparison, there is no question that the Heat were much more seasoned. This was a series of talented vets against talented guys in their early 20s, and we all know who wins that kind of matchup in the NBA.

Another angle supporting Brooks as Wolves' coach...Durant loves him and is a free agent after next year. Hmm...

Harden was a top 5 pick. I don't want brooks to much iso ball and I hate that type of basketball. In brooks defense it is hard to win when Derrick fisher is your 7th man for two years

kekgeek1 wrote:

longstrangetrip wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

longstrangetrip wrote:I'm on the other side on this one...I see Brooks as a big upgrade over Flip, and would approve hiring him (spoiler alert...it's not gonna happen). I always sided with Durant/Westbrook's defense of Brooks when the media ripped him after his 4-1 loss to Miami. Yes, OkC was enormously talented that year, but Miami was more talented...not to mention more seasoned and more desperate for a win. I never really saw OkC as having much of a chance in that series...Miami was not going to be denied.

I think Brooks would be a terrific choice to grow with the young core Flip has put together. This has a lot to do with my coaching prejudices. I favor an inspirational guy who gets his guys to play hard every night over a supposed x's and o's genius, and I think that defines Brooks. Orlando's front office sees this, and that's why they are rumored to be considering him to coach their young team.

Flip could actually save face a little if he hired Brooks. He could say "Scottie wasn't really given a chance to coach this year with the injuries to his stars", and astute NBA fans would know he was really talking about himself. Nevertheless, not likely to happen.

Miami was not more talented than OKC. Westbrook/Harden/Durant/Ibaka is a better core than Lebron/Wade/Bosh. Brooks had two top 5 players and another top 10 player on his team for multiple years and only made the finals once. Even after the Harden trade he still had two top 5 players in the league. He's had the best talent in the league his whole time in OKC and he got to the finals once. Only Rondo/Allen/Pierce/KG is probably a better top 4 in the past decade than what he had. The Heat made it to four straight finals because they had great talent and Spo is actually a great coach. If Brooks was a great coach I think he would have more than 1 finals appearance.

Gotta disagree with you on the talent comparison, khans. Miami had the consensus best player in basketball and two other top 5 picks. Neither Harden or certainly Ibaka were considered top 5 talent coming out of college, and you have to credit Brooks for their overachievement. And regardless of what the truth is about the talent comparison, there is no question that the Heat were much more seasoned. This was a series of talented vets against talented guys in their early 20s, and we all know who wins that kind of matchup in the NBA.

Another angle supporting Brooks as Wolves' coach...Durant loves him and is a free agent after next year. Hmm...

Harden was a top 5 pick. I don't want brooks to much iso ball and I hate that type of basketball. In brooks defense it is hard to win when Derrick fisher is your 7th man for two years

Thanks kek...my bad. I guess a better way of describing the talent of the two teams is to say they both had a Big 3 consisting of top 5 picks, but Miami was much more seasoned and had the best player in the world.

longstrangetrip wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

longstrangetrip wrote:I'm on the other side on this one...I see Brooks as a big upgrade over Flip, and would approve hiring him (spoiler alert...it's not gonna happen). I always sided with Durant/Westbrook's defense of Brooks when the media ripped him after his 4-1 loss to Miami. Yes, OkC was enormously talented that year, but Miami was more talented...not to mention more seasoned and more desperate for a win. I never really saw OkC as having much of a chance in that series...Miami was not going to be denied.

I think Brooks would be a terrific choice to grow with the young core Flip has put together. This has a lot to do with my coaching prejudices. I favor an inspirational guy who gets his guys to play hard every night over a supposed x's and o's genius, and I think that defines Brooks. Orlando's front office sees this, and that's why they are rumored to be considering him to coach their young team.

Flip could actually save face a little if he hired Brooks. He could say "Scottie wasn't really given a chance to coach this year with the injuries to his stars", and astute NBA fans would know he was really talking about himself. Nevertheless, not likely to happen.

Miami was not more talented than OKC. Westbrook/Harden/Durant/Ibaka is a better core than Lebron/Wade/Bosh. Brooks had two top 5 players and another top 10 player on his team for multiple years and only made the finals once. Even after the Harden trade he still had two top 5 players in the league. He's had the best talent in the league his whole time in OKC and he got to the finals once. Only Rondo/Allen/Pierce/KG is probably a better top 4 in the past decade than what he had. The Heat made it to four straight finals because they had great talent and Spo is actually a great coach. If Brooks was a great coach I think he would have more than 1 finals appearance.

Gotta disagree with you on the talent comparison, khans. Miami had the consensus best player in basketball and two other top 5 picks. Neither Harden or certainly Ibaka were considered top 5 talent coming out of college, and you have to credit Brooks for their overachievement. And regardless of what the truth is about the talent comparison, there is no question that the Heat were much more seasoned. This was a series of talented vets against talented guys in their early 20s, and we all know who wins that kind of matchup in the NBA.

Another angle supporting Brooks as Wolves' coach...Durant loves him and is a free agent after next year. Hmm...

Where you are drafted has literally no bearing on how good you are. Harden was sixth man of the year. Ibaka was second in DPOY voting. Durant was the scoring champ and Westbrook was All-NBA second team. The Heat had the best player and the best coach combined with experience, but they did not have the best talent and if Brooks is a better coach they have a much better chance at winning that series because of their overall talent advantage.

Heat had a heck of a lot easier road to the Finals than OKC which I think is a valid point to consider. I remember not that long ago basketball purists loved the way OKC played. OKC amount of top level talent is absolutely ridiculous. They has arguably 3 of the top 10 players in the entire league at this point on their roster a couple years ago. Ibaka is the Supporting PF teams Dream about (wolves fans have been wanting a guy like that for what seems like lifetimes). They found a gem in Reggie Jackson and now have 2 differently talented centers in Kanter and Adams. Shoot McGary looks like a nice player...ok anyway man that team has drafted well not everything has worked out for them but what a job they have done building that team.

I think most people would say Brooks is a good coach it's just whether you think he is a really good coach and or a fit for your team. I would imagine he will have a job next season and that franchise should be thrilled to get him since it will likely be a young building roster. I am not sure how many other unemployed NBA coaches I would take over Brooks. That's not a ringing endorsement but to get a guy like him for a Denver or Orlando that's pretty good. Brooks has enough of a resume players will probably listen.

Oh give me a break with Spol being a "great coach". If he was so great they would have made the playoffs in the lowly East even despite Bosh being out. It was also the Lebron and Wade show from day 1. There we plenty of jokes especially early on about how Lebron was the one running the show with Spol taking a back seat (even calling plays in a timeout lol). I'm not saying he's a bad coach, he's a decent to good coach IMO, but you are basically giving him all these props on the backs of having 2 great top 5 players and a top 10-15 player who were all very seasoned and holding it against Brooks for going up against them with a MUCH less seasoned group even if they were on even footing talent wise.

Experience is a big part of winning. Look at the Spurs who constantly beat teams who are more "talented". They have a great coach with a collection of good experienced players infused with some younger guys.

Brooks may not be at the top of most people's lists for potential future Wolves head coaches, but I certainly would not be opposed to him coming here.

TheGrey08 wrote:Oh give me a break with Spol being a "great coach". If he was so great they would have made the playoffs in the lowly East even despite Bosh being out. It was also the Lebron and Wade show from day 1. There we plenty of jokes especially early on about how Lebron was the one running the show with Spol taking a back seat (even calling plays in a timeout lol). I'm not saying he's a bad coach, he's a decent to good coach IMO, but you are basically giving him all these props on the backs of having 2 great top 5 players and a top 10-15 player who were all very seasoned and holding it against Brooks for going up against them with a MUCH less seasoned group even if they were on even footing talent wise.

Experience is a big part of winning. Look at the Spurs who constantly beat teams who are more "talented". They have a great coach with a collection of good experienced players infused with some younger guys.

Brooks may not be at the top of most people's lists for potential future Wolves head coaches, but I certainly would not be opposed to him coming here.

At the end of the day they had similar talent and Spo made 4 straight finals winning two of them and Brooks made 1 final with no title. Lebron isn't and wasn't that much better than KD and Westbrook has been better than D Wade for years now and yet they weren't even making it to the finals let alone winning any.