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Re: What Are We Getting For Love

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:26 am
by 60WinTim
lipoli390 wrote:Tim -- Check out Bennett's highlights from last season. Although his overall stats last season were terrible, this highlight footage shows what he is capable of at the NBA level. Some really impressive examples. And as you watch, keep in mind that he was in bad physical shape (15 pounds heavier than he is now). I'm looking forward to getting Bennett as part of this deal.

Damn! I had not watched the 10 minute highlight clips from last season. Bennett's got something!

Love for Wiggins, Bennett and a pick?!? Flip done good!

Re: What Are We Getting For Love

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:40 am
by BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
Was reading some of the Cavs message boards yesterday, they think they're getting Dieng too! Haha.

Re: What Are We Getting For Love

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:45 am
by northernhoops [enjin:9491634]
Bennett May think he's a SF, but last year he played PF 73% of the time
BizarroJerry wrote:Was reading some of the Cavs message boards yesterday, they think they're getting Dieng too! Haha.

I was also looking at some of the message boards for the Cavs and 76ers, both have pretty unrealistic expectations

Re: What Are We Getting For Love

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:01 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
Good to see some of you are excited about getting Derrick Williams-- err -- Anthony Bennett back in the Kevin Love trade. We need more reunions. Just when I thought he got away, we pull him back in! :dizzy:

Re: What Are We Getting For Love

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:09 pm
by BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
Camden wrote:Good to see some of you are excited about getting Derrick Williams-- err -- Anthony Bennett back in the Kevin Love trade. We need more reunions. Just when I thought he got away, we pull him back in! :dizzy:


Cam I'd be lying if I didn't see some of those similarities too. I think Bennett's a better ball handler that can get to the hoop more often than D Lion.

Re: What Are We Getting For Love

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:46 pm
by Monster
I finally voted I went with Wiggins Bennet and other. I assume we are getting at least 1 pick but I have no idea which one.

After seeing the voting I am a little surprised that out of 28 people nobody voted for TT.

Re: What Are We Getting For Love

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:58 pm
by Lipoli390
BizarroJerry wrote:
Camden wrote:Good to see some of you are excited about getting Derrick Williams-- err -- Anthony Bennett back in the Kevin Love trade. We need more reunions. Just when I thought he got away, we pull him back in! :dizzy:


Cam I'd be lying if I didn't see some of those similarities too. I think Bennett's a better ball handler that can get to the hoop more often than D Lion.


That's a bad comparison. The two share very little in common other than the fact that both play the same position and had poor rookie seasons. Of course we could mention a lot of good NBA players who had poor rookie season. Deron Williams comes to mind.

The two look different are built different and have different games. Derrick is clueless on the court. Bennett is not. In fact, Bennett appears to have good court awareness and real basketball instincts in contrast to Derrick's complete absence of basketball instincts. Derrick had a full two years in college to prepare for the NBA while Bennett had only one. Bennett is stronger, wider and a better ball handler than Derrick.

Re: What Are We Getting For Love

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:58 pm
by 60WinTim
monsterpile wrote:I finally voted I went with Wiggins Bennet and other. I assume we are getting at least 1 pick but I have no idea which one.

After seeing the voting I am a little surprised that out of 28 people nobody voted for TT.

I don't know, I think it's even more surprising that two people think the Sixers would give up their next year's 1st rounder!

Okay, you two, fess up! Tell us what on earth you were smoking?!?

Re: What Are We Getting For Love

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:01 pm
by slimcalhoun27 [enjin:6640095]
Would we have a chance at Monroe? Would he not be a better fit at PF then Bennett or the rumored Thadeus trade?

Wojnarowski was interviewed at coach Mark Schmidt's summer camp at St. Bonaventure by independent blogger and podcaster Aime Mukendi Jr. (hat tip to indispensable blogger JaeEvolution). You can listen to Wojnarowski's remarks regarding Monroe starting at the 12:40 mark of Mukendi Jr.'s podcast. The following is a transcription of the relevant segment: Detroit has tried to help [Monroe] with some sign and trade possibilities around the league. Monroe doesn't really have a great interest in going back and playing with the Pistons. If they're going to move him in a sign-and-trade, they've got to get value for him. They've got to get back some significant talent to compensate for that loss. They haven't been able to find a deal for him. HawksHoop.com - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.mZXpFkUQ.dpuf

Re: What Are We Getting For Love

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:30 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
Pre-draft/Combine measurements

Williams: 6'7.25", 248 lbs, 7'1.5" wingspan
Bennett: 6'7", 239 lbs, 7'1" wingspan

College stats year prior to declaring for draft, age 19 for both

Williams: 19.5 PPG, 8.3 RPG, 59.5% FG, 56.8% 3P (1.1-1.9 3PA), 75% FT (6.5-8.7 FTA), 1.1 APG, 1.0 SPG, 0.7 BPG, 7.9 WS (6.0/1.9), 32.9 PER

Bennett: 16.1 PPG, 8.1 RPG, 53.3% FG, 37.5% 3P (1.0-2.7 3PA), 70% FT (5.2-7.5 FTA), 1.0 APG, 0.7 SPG, 1.2 BPG, 5.7 WS (3.5/2.3), 28.3 PER

Both are tweeners. Both rely on their jumper far more than they should. Neither have a back-to-the-basket post game. Based on the eye test (you can disagree), both are in love with the idea of being a perimeter player when it's clear they'd have more success living in the paint utilizing their athletic gifts. Both Williams and Bennett are poor ball movers aka black holes on offense. Neither are good on defense, having trouble with the quickness of SFs and the strength/size of PFs. Both feasted at the college level due to being more athletic than everyone else, but in the NBA they'll need more than that to be successful.

But it's a "bad comparison". Okay.