Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

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rapsuperstar31 wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 11:12 am The Wolves have the longest active streak of consecutive regular season games with 100+ points scored (82) — the longest streak in our database is 136. Denver is the next highest in the league at the moment with 39 consecutive 100 point games. The Wolves currently have the 5th longest consecutive regular season games with 100+ points in NBA history.
That's pretty crazy. Come to think of it, we really haven't had a major power outage offensively that I can remember. Even amidst the horrific shooting against Phoenix, we had Ant and Bones get hot hands. So I guess we have a very high floor offensively.

For all the talk about needing a point guard, the bigger short-term issue staring us in the face is first half defense. Bones Hyland and Coby White can't solve that problem!
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Interesting little discrepancy in Ant's shooting profile:

8 3 point attempts per game
2 are catch and shoot
6 are pull ups

He shoots 52.5% on C&S and 37.5 on pull ups. Neither are bad obviously but that's quite the gulf between the two shot types
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AussieWolf3 wrote: Sat Dec 13, 2025 1:06 pm Interesting little discrepancy in Ant's shooting profile:

8 3 point attempts per game
6 are catch and shoot
2 are pull ups

He shoots 52.5% on C&S and 37.5 on pull ups. Neither are bad obviously but that's quite the gulf between the two shot types
Wow, that is quite a gulf! But where did you get that data, AW? If he's making 3/4 of his treys at 52.5% and 1/4 at 37.5%, he would be at almost 48% overall on the season...and he's only at 41.6%. So something is off with that data.

Also, I wonder how they define a catch and shoot trey. Most of us would describe C&S as moving without the ball to get open and then shooting after getting a pass...Donte, Naz, Mike, and Jaden all do this a lot. But one of our frustrations with Ant is that he doesn't move without the ball that often. To me his most frequent 3-pointer is after getting a dribble handoff and screen from Rudy...they must be defining those as C&S.
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FNG wrote: Sat Dec 13, 2025 1:18 pm
AussieWolf3 wrote: Sat Dec 13, 2025 1:06 pm Interesting little discrepancy in Ant's shooting profile:

8 3 point attempts per game
6 are catch and shoot
2 are pull ups

He shoots 52.5% on C&S and 37.5 on pull ups. Neither are bad obviously but that's quite the gulf between the two shot types
Wow, that is quite a gulf! But where did you get that data, AW? If he's making 3/4 of his treys at 52.5% and 1/4 at 37.5%, he would be at almost 48% overall on the season...and he's only at 41.6%. So something is off with that data.

Also, I wonder how they define a catch and shoot trey. Most of us would describe C&S as moving without the ball to get open and then shooting after getting a pass...Donte, Naz, Mike, and Jaden all do this a lot. But one of our frustrations with Ant is that he doesn't move without the ball that often. To me his most frequent 3-pointer is after getting a dribble handoff and screen from Rudy...they must be defining those as C&S.
I agree something is off cause I calculated the same thing as you. I found the stats on NBA.com, maybe there's another set of 3 pointers that is dropping the number down, not sure.

I will say that 2 catch and shoots a game does feel in line with my perception. He doesn't move without the ball because of how much he moves with the ball, so it's an energy conservation thing that I can't really blame him for. But that just means they need to shift his usage to be less on the ball.

But yeah I hope he can improve his pull shot a bit, 37.5 isn't bad obviously but for context SGA and Jamaal Murray are both shooting 45% or better on similar volume which is nuts

Edit* ok so the first set of data was more generalized and I actually wonder if there is some overlap in the C&S data set and the pull up one

So I went shot type splits on his player page, and to be honest some of the shot break downs are kinda ridiculous and noisy imo, but he shoots really well (above 40%) on almost every 3 point shot attempt- i.e. "pull up", "running jumping pull up", yada yada- but for step back threes he's at 33% which make up 42 of 161 3PAs
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Oops I just realized that I mixed the numbers up

8 3 point attempts
6 are pull up
2 are catch and shoot

Had it the other way around in the original post
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Anyone heard of DARKO?

I got lost in a bit of a hyper fixation yesterday researching different metrics for bball lol. Found a good article listing out all the different metrics and their pros and cons here it is

https://www.hoopshype.com/story/sports/ ... 615174007/

Digression aside, DARKO was ranked in the survey as the most reliable metric. Take that for what you want haha

Anyway I was digging around and funny enough DARK O's core metric DPM, regards Ant very highly compared to things like vorp or EMP, putting him firmly in the 2nd tier after the usual suspect. He's actually not the far behind Luka to be honest and well ahead of the like of Maxey and Cade

https://apanalytics.shinyapps.io/DARKO/ ... tab-8666-1

Ant- 4.7 DPM
Luka - 5.15
Jokic - 6.8
Mitchell - 4.5
Shai - 6.3
Maxey- 1.5

The most useful tool is being able to compare players over the career on an easy to read plot point. The scores are best on standard deviations with 0 being replacement level (I think).

Jaden McDaniels is currently at a DPM - 1.43 (0 O-dmp, 1.43 D-DPM). Which is kinda of discouraging at first glance, but his offensive dpm has actually seen a sharp rise recently putting him on an encouraging trend line there.

You can also compare players at stages in there career by age, games, or seasons: which put Naz and Randle at almost the exact same DMP at similar stages in their career.

Really cool tool and it's completely free!
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AussieWolf3 wrote: Sat Dec 13, 2025 2:39 pm Oops I just realized that I mixed the numbers up

8 3 point attempts
6 are pull up
2 are catch and shoot

Had it the other way around in the original post
Aha, that makes more sense, Aussie...you gotta move without the ball to get C&S opportunites!
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AussieWolf3 wrote: Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:09 pm Anyone heard of DARKO?

I got lost in a bit of a hyper fixation yesterday researching different metrics for bball lol. Found a good article listing out all the different metrics and their pros and cons here it is

https://www.hoopshype.com/story/sports/ ... 615174007/

Digression aside, DARKO was ranked in the survey as the most reliable metric. Take that for what you want haha

Anyway I was digging around and funny enough DARK O's core metric DPM, regards Ant very highly compared to things like vorp or EMP, putting him firmly in the 2nd tier after the usual suspect. He's actually not the far behind Luka to be honest and well ahead of the like of Maxey and Cade

https://apanalytics.shinyapps.io/DARKO/ ... tab-8666-1

Ant- 4.7 DPM
Luka - 5.15
Jokic - 6.8
Mitchell - 4.5
Shai - 6.3
Maxey- 1.5

The most useful tool is being able to compare players over the career on an easy to read plot point. The scores are best on standard deviations with 0 being replacement level (I think).

Jaden McDaniels is currently at a DPM - 1.43 (0 O-dmp, 1.43 D-DPM). Which is kinda of discouraging at first glance, but his offensive dpm has actually seen a sharp rise recently putting him on an encouraging trend line there.

You can also compare players at stages in there career by age, games, or seasons: which put Naz and Randle at almost the exact same DMP at similar stages in their career.

Really cool tool and it's completely free!
Interesting. PER actually works pretty well IF you are looking at 1st/2nd option type guys. Where it doesn't work so well are the Jaylen Clark types since they don't produce a lot of volume box score stats.

Ultimately, almost all these stats will have guys like SGA and Jokic in the top tier. It's sorting out the role players where things get murkier. I do find it odd that Maxey is so low in DARKO. That seems off, even though the others you listed look about right in comparison to each other.
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Q-is-here wrote: Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:17 pm
AussieWolf3 wrote: Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:09 pm Anyone heard of DARKO?

I got lost in a bit of a hyper fixation yesterday researching different metrics for bball lol. Found a good article listing out all the different metrics and their pros and cons here it is

https://www.hoopshype.com/story/sports/ ... 615174007/

Digression aside, DARKO was ranked in the survey as the most reliable metric. Take that for what you want haha

Anyway I was digging around and funny enough DARK O's core metric DPM, regards Ant very highly compared to things like vorp or EMP, putting him firmly in the 2nd tier after the usual suspect. He's actually not the far behind Luka to be honest and well ahead of the like of Maxey and Cade

https://apanalytics.shinyapps.io/DARKO/ ... tab-8666-1

Ant- 4.7 DPM
Luka - 5.15
Jokic - 6.8
Mitchell - 4.5
Shai - 6.3
Maxey- 1.5

The most useful tool is being able to compare players over the career on an easy to read plot point. The scores are best on standard deviations with 0 being replacement level (I think).

Jaden McDaniels is currently at a DPM - 1.43 (0 O-dmp, 1.43 D-DPM). Which is kinda of discouraging at first glance, but his offensive dpm has actually seen a sharp rise recently putting him on an encouraging trend line there.

You can also compare players at stages in there career by age, games, or seasons: which put Naz and Randle at almost the exact same DMP at similar stages in their career.

Really cool tool and it's completely free!
Interesting. PER actually works pretty well IF you are looking at 1st/2nd option type guys. Where it doesn't work so well are the Jaylen Clark types since they don't produce a lot of volume box score stats.

Ultimately, almost all these stats will have guys like SGA and Jokic in the top tier. It's sorting out the role players where things get murkier. I do find it odd that Maxey is so low in DARKO. That seems off, even though the others you listed look about right in comparison to each other.
I really don't know what to say regarding Maxey cause I have watch very very little of his play. His box score is absurd right now which is at least partially inflated his league leading minutes.

But from my understanding DARKO weighs your whole career into its scoring, with more recent games getting weighted more heavily. I'm not exactly sure how this works overall but I think DARKO is basically waiting to see, so to speak, if this is a real tread or a flash in the pan for him.... Idk

I'm still learning how the whole thing work because I don't believe it's intended to be just looking at the DPM score and moving on from there, they have trend lines for various different factors that someone smarter than me can compile together to get a more comprehensive analysis and projection.

But like I said, Jaden's 0.0 offensive DPM is only discouraging at first glance but weighted against his career and also the knowledge of his diminished offensive role past season, the sharp rise to replacement level offensive player looks like something that will keep rising
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As I've said I'm nerding out quite a bit over here with DARKO app, so here's another interesting point of note.

DARKO hates Julius lol with most of his career being well below a replacement level and in last few years he has maintained a DPM around +1. If we're asking DARKO whether they should sell high or not the answer seems to be yes

Ps- when compared to DDV the two have an eerily similar tread line throughout their careers with grading out at a +1 DPM right now. Do with that what you will
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