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monsterpile wrote:You know who would be a nice enough RB for this team? Chester Taylor. He wasn't a big play guy but he could run the ball, catch out of the backfield and was a terrific pass protector. If the Vikings could find that level of player out of this draft I would be pretty thrilled.

This kid could be a bigger version of Taylor.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/samaje-perine?id=2558138

Cook running a 4.5 is interesting to me considering McShay was always acting like he was the fastest running back ever.

khans2k5 wrote:Cook running a 4.5 is interesting to me considering McShay was always acting like he was the fastest running back ever.

The 40 times are always hilarious. One of my favorites was the athletic wonderkind Manziel ran a 4.68. Wow!!!!

Back in the day (late 90's early 2000's) I remember reading an article about speed in the NFL (Randy Moss's speed came up in the conversation) and they talked to a well known track coach and they said something like "basically anything around 4.4 in the 40 is fast. If they do that they are fast anything close to that...they are still fast. Obviously running with pads and football gear and playing the game is different than just running in a straight line over 40 yards" So the point is if some pretty good sized dude is running a 4.5 it's still fast enough probably. Who was the last amazing sub 4.4 guy to do anything significant?

monsterpile wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:Cook running a 4.5 is interesting to me considering McShay was always acting like he was the fastest running back ever.

The 40 times are always hilarious. One of my favorites was the athletic wonderkind Manziel ran a 4.68. Wow!!!!

Back in the day (late 90's early 2000's) I remember reading an article about speed in the NFL (Randy Moss's speed came up in the conversation) and they talked to a well known track coach and they said something like "basically anything around 4.4 in the 40 is fast. If they do that they are fast anything close to that...they are still fast. Obviously running with pads and football gear and playing the game is different than just running in a straight line over 40 yards" So the point is if some pretty good sized dude is running a 4.5 it's still fast enough probably. Who was the last amazing sub 4.4 guy to do anything significant?

I'd say Tyreke Hill was pretty electric this year. Chris Johnson had an MVP caliber year even though it was just 1 year a while back. 4.5 is still very fast. I just thought it was funny because the way McShay always talked about him you'd think he was the next Chris Johnson and it turns out he's just pretty normal.

khans2k5 wrote:

monsterpile wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:Cook running a 4.5 is interesting to me considering McShay was always acting like he was the fastest running back ever.

The 40 times are always hilarious. One of my favorites was the athletic wonderkind Manziel ran a 4.68. Wow!!!!

Back in the day (late 90's early 2000's) I remember reading an article about speed in the NFL (Randy Moss's speed came up in the conversation) and they talked to a well known track coach and they said something like "basically anything around 4.4 in the 40 is fast. If they do that they are fast anything close to that...they are still fast. Obviously running with pads and football gear and playing the game is different than just running in a straight line over 40 yards" So the point is if some pretty good sized dude is running a 4.5 it's still fast enough probably. Who was the last amazing sub 4.4 guy to do anything significant?

I'd say Tyreke Hill was pretty electric this year. Chris Johnson had an MVP caliber year even though it was just 1 year a while back. 4.5 is still very fast. I just thought it was funny because the way McShay always talked about him you'd think he was the next Chris Johnson and it turns out he's just pretty normal.

Yeah like I say the 40 tile thing is amusing. Of course maybe his speed with pads on is more exciting than his 40 speed.

I really didn't pay much attention to the NFL outside of the Vikings this year so honestly I really had no clue who Hill was (despite him playing for the local team around here) until recently when I was reading draft profiles and he was mentioned. I just looked up some stuff about him after you mentioned him (thanks for doing so) and...he had a pretty bad incident too and had a pretty nice season. I couldn't help thinking about Mixon who has a video which is worse for teams to have to deal with because people can see it and that parking ticket incident which wasn't a good look. Somebody is gonna take a chance on Mixon unless the vetting goes pretty poorly on him. I predict he will get drafted by someone.

Looks like a strong draft at RB and TE. We should draft one of each honestly.

http://www.1500espn.com/vikings-2/2017/03/tight-ends-steal-show-nfl-combine/

Going back to Mixon. I would certainly take him 5th or later if available. Not a big risk at that point.

Update - He ran a 4.4 at his Pro Day.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/story/_/id/18853867/joe-mixon-runs-40-yard-dash-unofficial-443-seconds-oklahoma-sooners-pro-day

bleedspeed177 wrote:Going back to Mixon. I would certainly take him 5th or later if available. Not a big risk at that point.

Update - He ran a 4.4 at his Pro Day.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/story/_/id/18853867/joe-mixon-runs-40-yard-dash-unofficial-443-seconds-oklahoma-sooners-pro-day

Yeah and the Vikings had quite a contingent there too. Of course there is more than one OK running back they could be considering.

Edit: and then there is this...

https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/839549873317953536

Joe Mixon left pro day with Vikings HC Mike Zimmer, putter still in tow. Zimmer told @James_Poling putter was a gift from Roy Williams

Count of SI top 40.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2017-nfl-draft-big-board-prospect-scouting-reports

I really like Pat Elflein for this team. Seems like a guy you plug in for 10 years and is the leader of the OL.

Going into the draft. List of need by position. I agree with the positions, but think due to strength I would go RB and TE early if someone falls.

http://www.1500espn.com/vikings-2/2017/03/ranking-vikings-draft-needs-position/