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We're taking about filling spots 13-14. What's the rush to lock in the team? There are still other moves being made around the league. Are all the other teams doing the exact same thing as Thibs incompetent too? You could lock in a Corey Brewer today and someone else comes up as available after a trade tomorrow. I just don't see a reason why Thibs needs to sign these 2 guys right away. A guy like Dudley is literally just becoming available so if Thibs locked up spots 13-14 already that wouldn't even be a consideration.

khans2k5 wrote:We're taking about filling spots 13-14. What's the rush to lock in the team? There are still other moves being made around the league. Are all the other teams doing the exact same thing as Thibs incompetent too? You could lock in a Corey Brewer today and someone else comes up as available after a trade tomorrow. I just don't see a reason why Thibs needs to sign these 2 guys right away. A guy like Dudley is literally just becoming available so if Thibs locked up spots 13-14 already that wouldn't even be a consideration.

Calm down, Kahns. I guess you believe my second reason is the most likely explanation for the delay. Yo might want to read my post against more carefully. If you do, you'll see I'd be surprised if the reason is incompetence. As I said, it's either free agents preferring other teams or it is Thibs waiting for other possible signees to get released by their teams or Thibs maintaining space for a possible trade.

lipoli390 wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:We're taking about filling spots 13-14. What's the rush to lock in the team? There are still other moves being made around the league. Are all the other teams doing the exact same thing as Thibs incompetent too? You could lock in a Corey Brewer today and someone else comes up as available after a trade tomorrow. I just don't see a reason why Thibs needs to sign these 2 guys right away. A guy like Dudley is literally just becoming available so if Thibs locked up spots 13-14 already that wouldn't even be a consideration.

Calm down, Kahns. I guess you believe my second reason is the most likely explanation for the delay. Yo might want to read my post against more carefully. If you do, you'll see I'd be surprised if the reason is incompetence. As I said, it's either free agents preferring other teams or it is Thibs waiting for other possible signees to get released by their teams or Thibs maintaining space for a possible trade.

If you don't believe it's incompetence then why add fuel to the fire of Thibs being bad at his job with the shot in the final paragraph? There's 0% chance they are just running around with their heads cut off not knowing what to do and yet it still finds it's way in your post to take another shot when you can. Even a little detail as adding a 13th and 14th guy to the team leads to veiled shots at his competence or ability to add pieces to this roster and this frankly just doesn't matter enough for that kind of stuff.

khans2k5 wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:We're taking about filling spots 13-14. What's the rush to lock in the team? There are still other moves being made around the league. Are all the other teams doing the exact same thing as Thibs incompetent too? You could lock in a Corey Brewer today and someone else comes up as available after a trade tomorrow. I just don't see a reason why Thibs needs to sign these 2 guys right away. A guy like Dudley is literally just becoming available so if Thibs locked up spots 13-14 already that wouldn't even be a consideration.

Calm down, Kahns. I guess you believe my second reason is the most likely explanation for the delay. Yo might want to read my post against more carefully. If you do, you'll see I'd be surprised if the reason is incompetence. As I said, it's either free agents preferring other teams or it is Thibs waiting for other possible signees to get released by their teams or Thibs maintaining space for a possible trade.

If you don't believe it's incompetence then why add fuel to the fire of Thibs being bad at his job with the shot in the final paragraph? There's 0% chance they are just running around with their heads cut off not knowing what to do and yet it still finds it's way in your post to take another shot when you can. Even a little detail as adding a 13th and 14th guy to the team leads to veiled shots at his competence or ability to add pieces to this roster and this frankly just doesn't matter enough for that kind of stuff.

Is Thibodeau a relative of your, Kahns. :). Seriously, it's no secret that I think Thibodeau is bad at his job. Some agree with me and some don't. But I'm sure Thibodeau is glad you're there with a hair trigger defending him at the slightest hint of criticisms. Neverthess, if you had read my post carefully, you'd see that my point in the last paragraph was that, in spite of my view of Thibodeau, I DON'T believe he is so bad that he doesn't have his ducks in a row regarding free agent preferences. Call it a backhanded compliment, maybe. My overall post was simply meant to explore the reason for the delay in filling those last two roster spots. I think you and I generally agree on the reason. And I think we also agree those two roster spots aren't going to make or break this team's fortunes. So again, relax. Thibodeau is well-compensated and has lots of supporters on this Board and around the League. And when the dust settles he may turn out to be an excellent PBO and head coach.

Beasley to the lakers.

Korver to the 6ers for garbage.

Thibs sitting on his ass. Every interview its about a better bench and more shooting, yet he does very little to address those issues while other teams continue to add depth.

crazy-canuck wrote:Beasley to the lakers.

Korver to the 6ers for garbage.

Thibs sitting on his ass. Every interview its about a better bench and more shooting, yet he does very little to address those issues while other teams continue to add depth.

It's a bit of a concern, but we simply don't have the cap space or assets to acquire any of these guys.

Looks like most the Western Conference teams are loading themselves with shooters. Meanwhile we don't have any.

KiwiMatt wrote:

crazy-canuck wrote:Beasley to the lakers.

Korver to the 6ers for garbage.

Thibs sitting on his ass. Every interview its about a better bench and more shooting, yet he does very little to address those issues while other teams continue to add depth.

It's a bit of a concern, but we simply don't have the cap space or assets to acquire any of these guys.

Looks like most the Western Conference teams are loading themselves with shooters. Meanwhile we don't have any.

We have shooters. We just need volume.

KiwiMatt wrote:

crazy-canuck wrote:Beasley to the lakers.

Korver to the 6ers for garbage.

Thibs sitting on his ass. Every interview its about a better bench and more shooting, yet he does very little to address those issues while other teams continue to add depth.

It's a bit of a concern, but we simply don't have the cap space or assets to acquire any of these guys.

Looks like most the Western Conference teams are loading themselves with shooters. Meanwhile we don't have any.

I know we're talking about the 13 and 14th roster spots, but for the wing position, we're not necessarily talking about a non-rotation 13th or 14th player off the bench. I'd like to believe that Okogie or KBD will emerge as our go-to wing off the bench, but that's a lot to expect from any rookie and these two guys weren't exactly lottery picked. Thibodeau has repeatedly pointed to our bench as the thing that dragged the team down last season; yet if at least one of our two rookies doesn't pan out in a pretty big way this season, I don't see any significant improvement in our bench.

Now with Beasley off the board, I don't see any veterans worth signing as our go-to wing off the bench. Beasley was the only unrestricted FA available who has proven that he can step in at the NBA level as a significant and efficient scorer as well as a rebounder. Unfortunately, the Wolves didn't have enough room under the luxury tax threshold to match what the Lakers are paying him and still fill out our 14th roster spot. Cap management matters. The Wolves are about $500,000 short of begin able to pay Beasley $3.5 million and still have enough to sign one more minimum vet free agent without hitting the luxury tax threshold.

I don't see Corey Brewer as the guy. I love his energy and heart, but he's a poor shooter, doens't rebound much and is a sub-par defender if you look at his advanced defensive stats. Nick Young has been a good volume 3-point shooter throughout his NBA career, but he's a major had case and regarded as a bad seed. Flip told me you don't want him anywhere near your locker room. I'll add that he's a horrible defender. He's not a guy we'd want as our main wing replacement if Wiggins or Butler goes down for any length of time. Vince Carter? Nothing left in that tank. Richard Jefferson? Same as Vince Carter.

The guy I'd pursue right now is Daniel House. He's a long, athletic wing who showed last season he can produce at the NBA level. He has the makings of a good 3-point shooter. I think he's ready for a breakout season if given the chance. For our 14th and final roster spot, I'd think about adding another big -- maybe Greg Monroe, Trevor Booker, Jahlil Okafor or Alex Len. Otherwise, maybe sign Babbit as our 14th roster player to add some 3-point shooting. Then I'd sign Amile Jefferson to the other 2-way and call it a day.

But maybe the Knicks will buy-out Noah. And don't forget that Bazz is still available. :)

I simply don't understand how Christian Wood is still available. Thought he should have been scooped up for years now. Very long, very athletic, and the production is there. Put together a terrific Summer League. I think Amile Jefferson is deserving of a roster spot here, but Wood has way more natural ability and upside.

As for wings, the two I'm looking at are Pat Connaughton and John Jenkins. They're both young and plenty proven as shooters as far as I'm concerned.

Camden0916 wrote:I simply don't understand how Christian Wood is still available. Thought he should have been scooped up for years now. Very long, very athletic, and the production is there. Put together a terrific Summer League. I think Amile Jefferson is deserving of a roster spot here, but Wood has way more natural ability and upside.

As for wings, the two I'm looking at are Pat Connaughton and John Jenkins. They're both young and plenty proven as shooters as far as I'm concerned.

Jenkins is a possiblity, but i dont think pat is. Young guys want a chance and they know they won't get it with thibs' short bench.

I think we'll probably get young guys that are gleague types that are happy to get that nba pay check and uniform. Guys that played in the league like pat know better.

The other option are vets that will take the league minimum that like Minnesota; ie brewer.